It's Supernatural

Sid: Well, my guest Larry Randolph is red hot for the Messiah, he has a very well respected gift of prophecy but he was as messed up as everyone of us was. At one point in his life he had this negative image of himself as almost any one you can image; it’s a miracle he’s who he is today. And a lot had to do with a visitation he had from the Lord when he was in his twenties; tell me about that.

Larry: Yes Sid that plays into the story line we’re talking about insecurity and not being a copy. I was in my early 20’s and as was said in the last session that I had just finished with playing with the gospel group and decided; the Lord decided I was going to do something different. So I settle into my first year of being kind of an assistant staff pastor at a church in Arkansas. I was going to sleep one evening in Fall I think it was the end of September the first of October; my bed was by the window. There was a window right by my bed that looked right into the yard where great oak trees were at and the leaves had been falling off the trees and it was turning autumn and the leaves were falling off at that time of the year. And as I was drifting off to sleep I was awakened by the sound of a leaf crunching under someones foot. Now, and I heard it at the front of the house and it was coming; I could hear it walking toward my bedroom where I was laying not even 12 inches from a window open with a screen over the window letting the autumn air blow in over my face. And immediately I was afraid because I thought it was a burglar because there was a rumor that burglar’s was in the area; so fear gripped me. But as I heard the steps I could hear; it wasn’t a dream, it wasn’t a vision I was wide awake and I could hear the steps turn the house coming toward the window. And when the steps turned the corner the Spirit of God fell on me as heavy as I’ve ever felt that anointing of the Holy Spirit and up to the window the Lord comes and it was Jesus the Messiah. And He bent over and put His face; the cheek of His face by the screen of the window. Now at this point He hadn’t said a word to me but all of a sudden the whole room turned into what I call liquid agape; liquid love.

Sid: I understand that because the day I got saved that’s what happened to me; so I know exactly what you’re talking about go ahead.

Larry: Yeah, it was like there was a fog in the room and it was the most beautiful, warm inviting red color that I’ve every seen. And I realized that red fog in the room was visible manifest liquid love of this Jesus. And as it begin to settle on me I couldn’t hardly breath because it was so heavy; but when I began to breathin like everything in me that was insecure would leave; everything in me that was fearful was medicated by this wonderful love of God. And I realized at that moment Sid a couple of things, not realized..I realized because the Lord…how do I say it He spoke audible words later; this time it was just thoughts coming from Him. And I realized that just His attitude; His posture was this, “I love you unconditionally, there’s nothing that you could ever do or ever say; there’s nothing that you could ever do different that would ever deter My love for you; you’re unconditionally accepted, unconditionally loved and you’re in my embrace forever and forever.” And that was the most overwhelming thing I’d ever in my life felt from anyone, from anything that unconditional love was available to me for the rest of my life if I would embrace this. And then after laying there I began to weep and the Lord then He spoke to me and these words were audible he said “Look at your hands.” And I thought that’s interesting you know Jesus comes all the way from heaven and He tells me to look at my hands.” And I thought that He would give me a revelation or something you know, and it was and I just didn’t know it. So I looked at my hands and he said as I looked at my hands He said “Look close at your hands.” And I looked close and this is what He said to me out of Psalms 139:14 David said “For I am awesomely and wonderfully (that word wonderfully is distinctly, uniquely made by the marvelous works of God.” Which are the unique or disctinct works of God. So He quoted that scripture to me of David said; “I am marvelously and wonderfully made by God.” And He began to say to me that “There is no one that has your hands, no one has your fingerprints Larry; no one has your DNA, no one has your mind, no one has your gifting; you are a unique expression of an original breath that I breathed into Adam in Genesis 1 that has been transferred now and I’m breathing that into you and I want you to live your life like that.” He said this about my hands “I don’t want you to ever hit anyone with your hands, I don’t want you to push with your hands, I don’t want you to slap with your hands, I don’t want you to have a closed fist. I don’t want your hand to be closed in greed, I want you to live with an open hand; a unique open hand; a hand of loving, a hand of caring, a hand of blessing; a hand of ordination; a hand of healing; a hand of comfort. Because…here’s what He said to me that so floored me Sid He said “Larry you are my…you and the rest of the people of God are My hands extended on this earth; I can’t be there in a physical form you have to do for me what I would do if I was there.”

Sid: And what you’re saying is “Could you picture Jesus making a fist and socking someone in the nose?” Never in a million years.

Larry: Never, never.

Sid: But and you know what Larry was told by God transformed his life and allowed him to step into his destiny. But God is saying the same thing to you; Larry would you speak on behalf of God to those listening and let them know that what God said to you He’s saying to them right now.

Larry: Absolutely and so yes when He said “Look at your hands and your my hands extended and He said “When you touch people; when you love people it’s the same as me touching them and loving them; I’m doing it through you I am the breath in your breath; I am the DNA in your DNA, I am all that I am you can be because the scripture says “As He is so are we in this world.” And Sid, I wasn’t like that, I was insecure; I was…bad self image so something had to change. And I began to think “Someone’s got to change, well God changes not so guess what, (Laughing) that bad image of me has to change.” So I had to adopt an image of a God that loved me and that would want to use my hands and made me unique. And this is what He said to me you know “Larry if you don’t be what I’ve made you to be; if you don’t lose your false image or this low self-esteem and this shyness, if you don’t become what I’ve called you to be the world will go without seeing that that’s part of my personality because you are a unique once in a lifetime Mona Lisa no one else can copy who you are; you’re not supposed to do someone else’s ministry I’ve called you to do your ministry and your ministry is reflect a part of My heart that only you understand and know because I have given you an original breath that others don’t have; they have their own original breath.” So He said to me “Never be a copy; most Christians are born to overcome and most Christians are born originals, the tragedy is that they die a copy.” And as I did right then and I speak to the people out there listen when God breathed into you; when God, what I mean even at birth. Because Roman’s says 8:29 it says “Those who He foreknew He predestined.” That word predestined is horenso where we get our Latin word horizon in other words He set your horizon. If He foreknew you He set the landscape of your life; He gave you a personal landscape, a personal horizon that was to be conformed into the image of God. That’s what Paul said in the Book of Romans; so I say to you that even at birth God breathed an original breath into you that was like Him full of healing, full of love, full of compassion, full of wholeness, full of entrepreneurship, full of creativity, full of gifting, so that’s who you are in God. And if you are not that and you feel other things then those are nothing but false feelings that are trying to circumvent or trying to usurp rather the place of the Christ that lives in you. Because what did Paul say “Greater is He that’s in me then he that’s in the world.” And he said he lived by that greatness of Christ in him. So I’d like to encourage people out there to find your path, and to find out who God has called you to be. God’s not called me to pick up Smith Wigglesworth’s anointing as much as I respect that; He hasn’t called me to pick up Kathryn Kuhlman’s anointing as much as I respect that. I have an anointing that they didn’t have that no one else has and it would be a shame in God’s ecosystem for your to die and not be you and the world go without seeing what God has invested in you. The world already knows what He’s invested in other people; so being a copy of someone else I don’t mean it’s bad and I don’t mean you can’t use and facilitate some of their anointing but the world is not looking for a redo of someone else. The world is looking for someone who carries an authentic expression of a God who’s so big that He had to have 10 names just to capture His personality in the Old Testament. Jehovah Shalom, Jehovah Nissi, Jehovah Rapha. I mean that’s how big His personality is even 10 names couldn’t capture all of His personality. So, I would just like to encourage people to be yourself, break through the restraints that are on you or the abuses that you suffered as a child or the insecurities or the ways…because that’s not who you are; that is the diagram or the blueprint of the enemy to distract you from being the overcoming expression of a wonderful God who made you after His own image.

Sid: You know what another d is coming to me besides distract; it’s the plan of the enemy to destroy you; not just distract you but destroy you…..later on in the week Larry I would like you to talk about the 10 prophetic words that you see coming globally in the future. You told me that you were at a conference and you saw a globe and you saw what was going to be happening to places all over the world. And perhaps on tomorrow’s broadcast Larry I would like you to talk about major prophecies God has given you; documented that you gave them before they happened and then they came to pass. So this is your moment to be the original that God’s created you to be.

Sid: My guest is red hot for the Messiah, his name is Gordon Robertson you see him every day on the 700 Club. And we found out on yesterday’s broadcast that his grandfather was a Senator, a US Senator. And his father of course you know Pat Robertson, Yale graduate, could have written his own ticket with the grace corporation. But God called him into ministry and the rest is history. Now the last thing Gordon wanted to do seeing what effect ministry had on a household, he didn’t want to go in the ministry even though he had prophecies early on. But he had prepared for a business career, he had a fine job in a law firm, then as the story goes he was minding his own business and a pastor that’s a mutual friend of both of ours John Jimenez called him, what happened Gordon?

Gordon: Well I was sitting in my office looking down the main street of Norfolk, Virginia, and John Jimenez called me up and it was a Thursday afternoon. And he said “Gordon I had a dream about you last night” and I said “That’s interesting John.” And he said “In my dream you went with me on my mission trip to India.” Then he added to that “I believe God wants you to go with me on this trip.”

Sid: Stop, the minute he said that what went on inside of your Gordon?”

Gordon: I frankly wanted to laugh at him.

Sid: Why?

Gordon:   Well the concept that God wanted me to do anything at that point in life was sort of “Nah.” It just didn’t click.

Sid: Were you backslidden?

Gordon: Yeah, I was going to church but I wasn’t in any stretch of the imagination I wasn’t a Christian.

Sid: What year was this?

Gordon: It was 1994.

Sid: So how does someone that is a son of a man that’s probably affected as many if not more people of anyone of this generation for the gospel be in a position like that?

Gordon: Well your heart just starts to get hardened is I guess one way to put it. Another is the just the phenomenon of the preacher’s kid and the part of establishing your own identity you tend to rebel against your parents. Like all teenagers go through that but with preacher’s kid there’s also the rebelling against what society is expecting you to do and how you’re expected to act. And so it’s almost like you’ve got to go out there and prove you’re bad.

Sid: Okay, but with John Jimenez you laughed but the question I have for you is why did you even entertain the thought of going coming from a posture like you were in?

Gordon: Because I knew John Jimenez for over 30 years and when I was a child I would go to John Jimenez’s church back when Rock Church was on Lens Avenue. And I knew the presence of God was there. And so when John Jimenez would say to me, I thank God I could God I could not dismiss that. I couldn’t just on his face reject it because of what I knew as a child.

Sid: But you still had a degree of a fleece on whether it was God or not with a Visa.

Gordon: Well that was just my lawyer brain kicking in, because I couldn’t just laugh at him and say “John you’re out of your mind.” I said… my lawyer brain kick in and I knew India and the United States don’t have wonderful relations, they’re better now than they used to be but you still needed a Visa. I knew that the embassy for India was in Washington, DC we were down in Norfolk, Virginia. I found out he’s calling me Thursday afternoon and I found out he was leaving Monday morning; and I just figured with my lawyer brain that there’s no way that you could process the paperwork in that period of time. That it was just going to be physically impossible for this thing to happen so I heard my self say “Okay, I’ll go if you can get the Visa. And 24 hours later…

Sid: (Laughing)

Gordon: He calls me with the Visa so I’m stuck I’ve got to go. Monday morning I find myself on an Air India flight from John F. Kennedy to Delhi.

Sid: Was it so easy to get off that quick from your law practice?

Gordon: No, it wasn’t easy at all. I didn’t have any trials of anything so I had to transfer my case load but I’ve grown up in the tradition that once you give your word it’s your bond so once you’ve said yes you can’t go back.

Sid: Okay, you find yourself in India and then you get the biggest shock of your life because to my understanding you’ve never preached before but what did John say to you?

Gordon: He came to me we were scheduled to be there a week and there was a whole series of gospel tent meetings going on in the city called Rajahmundry. He came to me one day and he said “You’re going to preach tomorrow.” Which kind of surprised me, I didn’t anticipate that that was going to be part of the assignment. I thought I was sort of all on the ride, you know as the young lawyer who they were going to look to me at some point in time and ask me for money.

Sid: (Laughing)

Gordon: That I sort of thought that I was going to be the deep pocket to make all of this happen and my pockets weren’t all that deep at that point in time. So when he came to me and said “You’re going to preach.” I was dumbfounded and I…

Sid: Did you entertain going back on the next plane?

Gordon: Well that was part of the problem there was no airport, and Rajahmundry we flew to Delhi and then flew on to Madras and then took a 12 hour train ride to get to Rajahmundry.

Sid: And every minute of it you were probably thinking “Now I know why I’m not a missionary.”

Gordon: (Laughing) Well you have two reactions and the one is “What can I do to help?” and the other “How can I get out of here?” There really is no in between and you see the disease and the poverty and just horrible living conditions in some areas of India. And you’re either broken by it or it breaks your heart. And I found myself being strangely heartbroken over it. And here people made in the image of God were literally living like animals and what could I do about it.

Sid: Okay, I’ve got to hear about that night you preached for the first time in your life, were there very many people there?

Gordon: We had 15,000 Hindu’s.

Sid: Fifteen thousand, wait a second, Mishpochah how would you like to have that for your first assignment 15,000 Hindu’s. How would you like that Bob and Janie? So how would you like that Gordon, how did it work out?

Gordon: I thought I was horrible, all I did was I remembered some things that my father used to preach and so you know you grow up in a preaching family you’re going to hear a whole lot of sermon’s along the way. And so I just repeated some of the things that I heard him speak and I didn’t know how to do altar calls. At that point in my life I didn’t know anything about Hinduism or what they needed to hear. I had prayed a great deal for the first time in a while “God you got to help me because I’m here and I’m here because John had a dream. So if anything is going to work it’s not going to be because of me.” And I didn’t know how to give an altar call so I just you know spoke and stopped and sat down. To my amazement people started coming forward. I had been at other meetings and this had not happened so I mean there had been earlier meetings during the week where this people had not come forward. And so when people were coming forward I didn’t know what was going on. And one couple came up to me and they said “We are Brahmin’s.” And at that time Brahmin’s never became Christians because it meant that they left everything. They would leave their families, they would leave their jobs, they would leave their community, they would be considered outcasts. But with tears in their eyes they said to me “We cannot help but believe in this Jesus you’re talking about, you’re words have pierced our hearts like arrows,” and they wanted to be baptized. You know at this point and it wasn’t until I saw their eyes and their tears that I finally figured out there was something really going on here that had nothing to do with me. And that God was really doing something.

Sid: Well you felt really good about this but then your buddy John Jimenez had another dream. You’re ready to go home and what does he say to you?

Gordon: The day before we were supposed to leave and get back on the 12 hour train to come back to the nearest airport to fly out of there and he comes to me and says “Gordon, I had another dream about you, you’re supposed to stay and I’m supposed to go home.”

Sid: Have you told this guy maybe you should be drinking more coffee and dreaming less? (Laughing)

Gordon: (Laughing) Well because of what had happened when I had spoken and really because of that Brahmin couple. I mean that was an amazing event and it was not just an amazing event for me it was also an amazing event for everyone else around.

Sid: I’ll tell you what “Hold that thought we’ll pick up right here on tomorrow’s broadcast. Mishpochah I am speaking through the eyes of faith right now but I believe this whole movie “The Passion” was to reach Jewish people. You see if history doesn’t testify to that because this is God’s time to reach Jewish people with the gospel….

Sid: I’ve been talking all of this week to Trisha Frost about her book on “Bound” Breaking Free from Life’s Entanglements.” Trish is you and Jack could get free from the mess, I mean you were sabotaged from day one, from the mess you were sabotaged in anyone can get free. What is the Number 1 issue you find as you talk to people about being free from their strongholds?

Trisha:   Well I think that it’s abandonment in the people that I relate to because so many people they have basically been abandoned whether it’s been from a father, or if it’s been from a spiritual father, or of course your father of origin or whatever. That’s how you begin to relate to your heavenly Father. Well you can’t believe you have value, and I see that over and over that when people don’t feel that they have a place of value they live life beneath and below their potential. You know they just can’t believe that their purpose is supernatural. You know I believe in my heart that nobody and that’s why I love the name of your show is because I think that it’s the most supernatural thing we can do to live our natural lives pursuing the things that have wounded us; the things that hinder us from living out our destiny. How do we define our destiny? Well I think that you define your destiny at some point in time by uncovering the things that have hindered you from living and walking in your destiny. And so I see it over and over again people that feel like they’ve been abandoned in life, so they’ve used the excuse well “I can’t.” I’ve taken “I can’t” out of my vocabulary. I can do all things through Jesus, I can live my destiny, I can live my purpose you know whenever I’m on a journey pursuing purpose and destiny. And you know after Jack died I felt abandoned, I felt abandoned by Jack. What am I going to do? You know I have lived my life dependent on Father God to always be there or Jack to always be there. I’ve never had to be the lead person, I never had to be the one in charge and now what am I going to do now that I have this huge ministry that’s just been dumped in my lap so to speak. I had no clue Sid, and so as I begin to pursue what is the things that are hindering me. Well first of all it was the belief that I had been abandoned, I had to deal with that belief, well to start with that’s a lie. I had not been abandoned because the word tells us that He’ll never leave us or forsake us. So if I’ve not been abandoned then Father I need for You to show me a plan. You know, what is the plan, what is the purpose for my life. And He’s doing that, day by day step by step.

Sid: Yeah, but you had something that I have to tell you sure provokes me to jealousy. Now I know that it didn’t start out that way but you’re kind of minding your own business and the Arc Angel Michael shows up, you’ve got to tell me about that.

Trisha: Well I’m just sitting out on my porch thanks to Jack’s mother that passed away and left us a beautiful enough money to buy this beautiful piece of property on the inlet waterway. Which was fulfilling Jack’s dream and so we built this beautiful house and Jack was able to live there only 6 weeks before he went on to be with the Lord. But I’ve lived there since Jack’s passing and so you know at the beginning of this year you know Jack has been gone 7 years. And although I miss him and have had to deal with abandonment life goes on. And so we’re starting our 8^th year of new beginnings. And I just love the fact that 8 represents new beginnings. And so I’m sitting on my porch and I’m not fully wake yet and all of a sudden I look up and there is this huge angel, you know and he is huge. And he’s sitting on this beautiful horse and he’s suspended over the waterway in midair. And I look up and you know you hear about things like this Sid and I’m sure that you see a lot of this but I’ve never experienced seeing an angel but only one other time. And so I’m sitting there and there he is and I guess just being female or whatever my curiosity is peaked and so I began to ask questions. “Who are you?” And then that’s when he told me that I am Michael the warring angel, I’m Michael of the angel army.” And so I asked him I said “What are you doing here?” I should have known the answer to that question but I didn’t it just didn’t dawn on me. And he said “It’s taken me 7 years to break through the heavenlies on your behalf but we’re here now.” And when he said “We, I only saw him so I’m thinking who is we.” And at that moment it’s just like a veil was removed from behind him and all around suspended in midair all up and down the waterway was angels as far as you could see was angels back to back. And so I asked him “What is this all about?” And he goes “We are here on your behalf and you can ask the father to commission us to give us assignments to whatever Father is doing in your life.” And still today, and you know that was at the first of the year still today those angels are there in my prayer time. I asked the Father, Father would you show me what the assignment is for my angels today. And by one by one we ask, I asked the Father to give these angels assignments, I have charged, the Bible tells us “He will give angels to have charge over you. And look at all of the stories in the Bible where Father God sent ministering angels to his servants and so they’re there. And every day and especially when I go out and I teach you know on the…

Sid: Have you seen anything different since that encounter when you minister to people?

Trisha: We have seen an increase in our ministry and it’s not an increase of finances, I’m not looking for that. I have seen an increase in gifts in the gifting’s that Father God has given each one of his children. You know whenever I travel now I hear words of knowledge, I see people… it’s amazing to me to where I’m minding my own business again and I’ll be teaching on whatever topic the church has brought me into teach on and all of a sudden this light will go off over somebody’s head.

Sid: Now when you say a light explain to me what you see.

Trisha: Well I see a light go off it’s like a flood light and I’ll be standing up and you know you’ll be in a room with anywhere… I go to seminars and I teach from anywhere from 100 to a 1000 and I’ll be teaching and I’ll be going through my points it’s usually on the orphan mind set. And then I’ll look at someone and that light will go off and I literally have to pause my teaching and listen for a minute. I have to invite the presence of the Holy Spirit to come and He begins to just fill my thoughts, He begins to fill my heart with words that He wants to speak to that individual.

Sid: Give me an example of a real life situation where a spotlight went off on someone and you gave them a word.

Trisha: I was in North Carolina doing some meetings The Orphan Heart Sonship is usually my favorite topic and all of a sudden there was this couple right in front of me and this floodlight went off over their head. And I’m looking at them and I get the word builder. So I have the couple standup and I just look at him and I told him I don’t even remember the whole word but basically the word was around building. That Father God… “You’re called to be a builder in the Kingdom of God and I told him son, I don’t know what you do in the Kingdom of God but I know that God has called you to build, build, build. And there’s a dream in your heart that you’ve just kind of forgotten about and the Lord is going to take that dream He’s breathing life back on that dream because that dream is to build in the Kingdom.” And he started crying and then I looked at his wife and I had her stand up and I said “Sweetheart the Lord has not forgotten you, you feel as though you have been forgotten or you’ve been abandoned or rejected; He wants you to know that He sees the desires in your heart.” And so I asked her I said “I feel like,” well I asked her, “Have you ever thought about adopting children?” And I asked them you all have 2 children and they actually had 2 children. And I said “Do you want any more children?” And she just began to weep and she couldn’t have any more children. And so with the Lord I said “I see adoption, you guys are going to adopt children.” Well after the meeting I went on and started preaching again, I hate to say preaching I just said sharing. And so after the meetings they came walking up to me and they both were still crying and he told me he goes, “I’m a builder he goes, I have a construction company.” And then she began to cry and she told me “I just took my name off of the adoption list because I had lost hope that we would ever get a child.” And the dream that they both had was they felt like the Lord told them that they were supposed to go to another town and that they were going to build a church but the doors just seemed to never open up so they just lost the hope for that dream. Well that day life was breathed back into that dream and they began to dream again and the pastor just got so excited for them because he’s been trying to encourage them to dream that dream again. You know to ask God to breathe life on it. So we prayed and I commissioned one of my angels and I said “And I just ask the Lord to give that angel assignment to cause this dream to come to fruition.” And I haven’t spoken to them but one time since then but they are making plans to actually go to this town and I think that it’s going to be like another campus for the church that I was at. But to go to this other town and they’re going to start a church in that other town. And she went and she put her name back on the adoption list.

Sid: You know I’m thinking about your description of about the way you were and the way that your husband was, if you two hadn’t been free you’d never be able to be freeing all of these other people. But think about all of the people that are listening to us right now Trish that they want that freedom for themselves, they want that freedom for their family….

Sid: My guest is red hot for the Messiah and she almost became a statistic. Her name is Laura Schultz and Laura found herself binge eating and purging. And she was involved as so many people today in trying to keep up and look like the models on television, or the woman that they see in the magazines and the newspapers and she wanted to look normal, and be normal. And if you look better on the outside and you say “Oh, she isn’t fat, she has a 4.0 grade average in college, she teaches Sunday School, she’s working a part time job; she’s really got her life together, but Laura tell me what was really going on inside of Laura at that time.

Laura: Well at that time it was just misery, I hated myself, I hated who I was. I was trapped in this cycle of binging and purging and depression. You know none of the doctors could provide any answers and it was just this cycle of just destruction was what I was in.

Sid: Tell me about when you were in college they found you on the floor in the bathroom, tell me about that.

Laura: Well I had gone away to school and you know I was binging and purging and abusing laxatives and got up one morning to take a shower and I guess blacked out; came to 10 or 15 minutes later on the bathroom floor. And at that point realized I knew I had a problem but it was obviously starting to really affect my health at that point.

Sid: Well they took care of you according to my notes, you were on 15 different medications. It was suggested you have shock therapy, and you were diagnosed by the state as mentally ill. Did you actually have the shock therapy?

Laura: I did it was a last ditch effort, I was in the hospital and tried to kill myself and my insurance was going to run out and the doctors just didn’t know what to do with me. And so they went ahead and did the shock therapy and then sent me home. They were just kind of at a loss not knowing how to help.

Sid:   Well they’re at a loss, you’re at a loss. Obviously your parents at a loss, what does someone in that position do?

Laura:   Well thankfully, you know at that point I heard about Mercy Ministries I mean God just did an amazing work in my life.

Sid: What were you like when you walked right into that place for the first time? If someone were to describe you what would they have seen?

Laura: Well I was a mess. I mean I couldn’t make eye contact, just looked… you could just see the depression on me. Didn’t want to speak to people, just had really lost all hope. Walked into the doors thinking either this works and God’s going to show up or I’m going to die. Those were my choices and that’s how I walked into that place.

Sid: And how old were you at the time?

Laura: I was 21 at the time.

Sid: My goodness, everything to live for but as far as you were concerned nothing to live for. What was the first gleam of hope that you had in this program because you had been going for 6 years with this eating disorder and no hope. No hope from Over Eaters Anonymous, no hope from psychiatrists, no hope from your parents, no hope from dietitians. You prayed had no answers from God, what was the first glimmer of hope that you got?

Laura: Well I was reading through from some scriptures. My counselor had given me a whole big list of scriptures to read through. And I hit 1 Corinthians 1:9 and it says “God can be trusted.” And in the Amplified it makes it even more beautiful. You know “God is faithful, reliable, trustworthy, ever true to His promise and can be depended upon.” And something just clicked in me and I knew that God has saved me and I had trusted Him for that salvation and yet I had never trusted Him with anything else. I was trying to do this all on my own and something, I mean just made revelation to me that day and I realized I could trust God and I’m going to get through this. His promises are real and that was a huge turning point for me.

Sid: So in other words, you had believed a lie.

Laura: Hm, hm. I believed a lot of lies. (Laughing)

Sid: Tell me some other lies you believed.

Laura: I believed that God had made me broken, that there was something wrong with me. And you know that I was not fixable, that I would be this way forever. That I was a horrible person, that no one loved me, that no one accepted me, that I had to perform to be accepted. I mean there was just a whole slew of lies that I was living.

Sid: One of the biggies was shame, tell me about that.

Laura: You know I just never felt good enough, I never felt that anybody would want me around. You know I just felt I mean it’s just a horrible feeling. Thankfully God is so faithful and when you bring Him that brokenness you know He replaced that with just joy and peace and comfort. But that was something that I had to be willing to give to Him and go to Him with. You know He’s not going to just snatch it from you.

Sid: In your story you talk about you had to learn what the triggers were that made you want to binge and to purge. In your case if I’m not being too personal tell me one trigger.

Laura: Well I mean the first one that comes in my head is that stress, that feeling like I’m never going to measure up and I need to do something to measure up. And so any time something would come at me I didn’t feel I had done it absolutely perfect I would binge or purge to calm myself down to deal those uncomfortable feelings. Really any uncomfortable feeling that would come my way I had learned to binge and purge to deal with that.

Sid: And so when you get an uncomfortable feeling today that comes your way what do you do?

Laura: Well now I have tools, now I know that I’m not controlled by my feelings. I know that I can go to the Lord I can pour my heart out to Him like David did in the Psalms. And that He is faithful to be there and sometimes it’s going through those feelings. But other times, I know my joy does not change, because I know that joy, that joy is more than a feeling. Joy is a gift from God and I know that even in the craziest of circumstances have that joy, have that peace that’s my bedrock. And so I just know this okay this uncomfortable feeling is here. I can pray through this, I can give this to God, I can sing a worship song. I’m going to get through this I don’t have to do some destructive behavior to deal with that feeling.

Sid: How many years later is this now?

Laura: It has been almost 6 years.

Sid: Okay according to my notes you went on to complete and get a Master’s Degree.

Laura: I did.

Sid: And you are currently working for the ministry that helped set you free, Mercy Ministry as Director of Education. What’s the real burden of your heart right now?    

Laura: I am just passionate about telling people especially girls that there’s freedom. So many people in my life, doctors. You know that they were well meaning, they just didn’t know the truth. But you know a doctor told me “You’ll never finish college, this is going to be your life, eating disorders are not curable, you’re going to struggle for the rest of your life. No one ever told me there was freedom. So I am passionate about telling these girls. Don’t let the world tell you you can’t be something, or don’t let the world put limits on you, because in Christ there’s complete freedom. There’s new beginnings, He’s a miracle working God and nothings too hard for Him. So don’t let the world tell you any differently. And that’s my passion is to convey to them “What God did for me He can do for you too.”

Sid: Okay, there is a 15 year old binge eater who then purges. Fifteen? She’s listening to us right now and she knows she’s a mess but she can’t help herself. She can’t go to that school that you have there because actually you’ve got more people waiting to get in. What advice would you give her right now because she’s in a life critical situation?

Laura: Well if people don’t know she needs to surround herself with some Christian people who can uphold her in prayer.

Sid: What kind of feedback are you getting on her book?

Laura:   We had a girl that email us and she had just randomly found this book on a book shelf at a Christian bookstore and read it. And she told us that she had read all kinds of books on eating disorders I’ve been struggling for so long and none of them gave hope. They all just gave this dismal outlook and you know some of them even made it worse because they would trigger. And she said “This was the first book that helped me get free.”

Sid: Laura quick question, how’s your weight?

Laura: Oh, it’s great… I look real good, I’m very happy.

Sid: How about your eating?

Laura: Oh, I eat what I want, I stop when I’m full. You know I just have balance now.

Sid: I can almost hear you speaking through the radios saying “I do too, I need a healing.” Well guess what most people need healings. And I am convinced from having read the Bible of what God’s will is. It’s God’s will that every pain, every sickness, every disease that you have He wants you healed of in this life. Sure you’ll be healed when you die and go to heaven but He wants you healed now. You won’t even need a healing after you die you’ll have a new earth suit that will never get sick. Now is when you need the healing. And Jesus made such a profound statement, He said “You will do the same things that I have done and even greater.” I mean I have heard lots of interpretations of what the greater is but I don’t even care I just want to see the same at this point. Just show me the same and I’ve interviewed so many people that have had miracles of everything possible. For instance, I have on the telephone right now Sherri Stone and I’m speaking to her at her home in Coeur d’Alene, Idaho. And interviewing her on her book called “Miracles Still Happen.” God showed her that most nonbelievers don’t believe that miracles happen and many believers don’t even believe that miracles happen and that they can get healed and walk in the miraculous. And of course Sherri does, she was healed of cancer and members of her family were healed and people she’s prayed for. And so she compiled a book of miracles and the subtitle is “Inspiring real life stories of Supernatural Intervention.” And speaking of supernatural intervention I find I used a word yesterday it’s a Hebrew word Sherri it’s called chutzpah. And the way that I can find out if someone is Jewish or not is whether they can pronounce that word. You see it’s very difficult for a non-Jew to say chutzpah. (Laughing) I’m just easing, but any way Sherri, I read your story you have a chapter in the book called “Canning Day Special.” And you had a roadside produce stand and you were there with a friend and your friend was selling the produce. I guess you raise this at your farm or…

Sherri: No, no.

Sid: You just were in the business, okay. But your friend was out there selling and something happened to you, tell me about that.

Sheri:   We had a break and we had a very busy day in the produce and we had a break so I went into the back behind the produce business, we had a little warehouse for that so we could bring it back and out front. During that time I heard a car drive up and look out the door and saw 2 men get out of the van and someone get out and said “Well the man must be getting canning specials for the wife. Immediately the Holy Spirit hit me and I began to pray. And I said “What in the world is going on,” it was a prayer almost of fear, what is going on. And…

Sid: Help me out, when you say use… terminology when you say the Holy Spirit hit me and what do you mean by that?

Sheri: The Holy Spirit came on and within my spirit told me that there was danger.

Sid: Hmm.

Sheri:   I then went into the Spirit, the Holy Spirit baptism of the Holy Spirit and began to pray accordingly to what the danger was.

Sid: Were you praying with your understanding or were you praying in tongues?

Sheri: I was praying in tongues.

Sid: Okay go ahead.

Sheri:   And there was great fear, and I was why would there be such fear. And fear was upon me and God is not of fear so I rebuked the fear and settled down and started to get up and the Lord said “No, continue to pray through.” So I was back down on my knees and praying severely and finally I was given the clearance and okay to go back out. And these 2 men were actually in the process almost accosting Jeanie. They didn’t know I was there and they looked a little bit shocked when I walked out and they pulled back from where she was. And I nonchalantly without them knowing that there was a danger and I said “Can I help you gentleman?”

Sid: But wait a second, weren’t you I mean you could see them accosting your friend and you’d already had a warning that something bad was about ready to happen how do you walk out there and just casual?

Sheri: (Laughing)

Sid: Tell me, how do you do that? I mean you’re just human like me, how do you do that.

Sheri:   Well I knew that the Lord was stronger than whatever was out in those men. And they didn’t have a chance. So I was fortified by the Holy Spirit and I guess we call that brave but it wasn’t I just knew, that I knew that nothing was going to happen. And God had brought those men there for a certain reason.

Sid: Okay, so you kind of what did you say to them?

Sheri:   I said “Good morning gentlemen can I help you? And they in turn said “Yes, we came to take you ladies for a ride.” I said “Well I’m sorry but we don’t have time for that.”

Sid: Oi vey!

Sheri:   And it blew their mind a little bit and they said “Well it doesn’t matter what you don’t have time for or what you want to do we’re going to take you for a ride.” And Jean and I both said I’m sorry but our husbands wouldn’t be happy about that, we’re not that type of women.” And they said “Well it doesn’t matter your going to go with us.” So in the process…

Sid: Now wait a second, I understand you supernaturally being okay but how about your friend Jeanie, how could she be okay on this?

Sheri:   She was walking right beside me in the Lord.

Sid: Okay, go ahead.

Sheri:   Strong spiritual Christian.

Sid: Okay, all right.

Sheri:   Well they tried intimidation and they tried grasping at us from the back and they couldn’t get to us and so they were a little dismayed. And they said “We’re still going to take us with them and I said “No, you’re not because we are Christian’s and our God is stronger than your god, not knowing that we knew who their god was but not realizing that they were Satanist. Then they proclaimed that faction that well you’re God is not as strong as ours. And we’re just going to take you anyway don’t you understand that we’re Satanists. And we in turn said I’m sorry but we’re not going with you our God is stronger than yours. And in the Name of Jesus we rebuke you, and we said that almost simultaneously and they both fell back. The one man ran back to the van and the other stood there trembling and he started to cry.

Sid: And when you said… did they like take a step back or did they fall?

Sheri: One man ran to the car.

Sid: Okay, but you said they stepped back.

Sheri:   It was as though there was a wall where even though they were trying to come toward us they couldn’t get through…

Sid: Okay, like a shield of protection

Sheri:   A shield, oh yes.

Sid: Oh, that’s a neat shield to have.

Sheri:   That’s our shield of faith and our shield of the Holy Spirit. And the one just stayed ended up accepting Jesus right there. He said “He’d been looking for nearly a dozen years and he never found anything as strong that actually would keep him from doing what he wanted to do. So what we had is what he wanted, so we proclaimed Jesus Christ as Savior.

Sid: Well I understand there’s a little PS to this story something very supernatural happened one year later.

Sheri:   Laughing) Once this fellow received the Lord he repented, he prayed with him.

Sid: Now what type of guy was he from a viewpoint of appearance, what did he look like at that time?

Sheri: Well tall big heavy set fellow, not fat big man. Blue jeans, cigarettes in his pocket, sleeves rolled up, long hair, dirty.

Sid: A real scruffy looking guy.

Sheri: Yeah, both of them were that way.

Sid: Okay, so a year later what happened?

Sheri:   Let me go back to just prior to that leading. All of these people started coming back into the produce business and this man panicked and we said “No, you can’t go we have to talk with you.” And he said “No, I’m going.” And so he fled to the car and we almost did a panic because here we had just been with this man about 10-12 minutes lead him to the Lord and there’s no follow-through but he’s gone.

Sid: Well he’s probably still a little afraid that you might have him arrested.

Sheri: (Laughing) That’s possible I hadn’t thought of that that’s possible. Just come kind of frustration on his part or fear and it had been too much at the time. Anyway the following year we had moved the produce business into a building and Jeanie wasn’t with me any longer and Leta was there. She was working outside and I was with the cash register and the produce on the inside. And it was a very very busy day we were just packed and I really didn’t have time for talking to many people I just kept serving wherever I could. And I happened to look over at the ice cream counter and there was a gentleman dressed very well with a little boy holding his hand. And they were asking because of the ice cream area. And I said, “Is there something I could help you with?” And I didn’t see anyone else standing there and he said “No, I’m fine.” So a half hour later and the man had kind of left for a little while and Leta and I were going to kind of again start restock our produce. I realized that the man was still standing there and I said “Oh, my goodness I’m so sorry I didn’t realize that you were here what can I do to help you? And he said “You’ve already done that Mam, thank you very much.” And I what in the world and as he did he took a little boy, and mind you he’s very well dressed at this point and he walks around outside the door and I look at the door to see who it was and who was this man?” Did I possibly know this man I didn’t recognize him at all. And as I did I realized that he walked into the green van and it was the man from the year before.

Sid: I guess there is no higher reward than leading someone and seeing them go on with the Lord.

Sheri:   That is so exciting.   And what is really wonderful that God would actually bring that man back just to let me know that he’s safe and he’s okay.

Sid: But you have a legal tangible type of faith that it’s contagious. And that’s why I’m so glad you put this book together, of course it wasn’t your idea, it was God’s idea called “Miracles Still Happen” subtitled “Inspiring Real Life Stories of Supernatural Intervention.” And who was this written for?

Sheri: The Christian’s and the unsaved Harrison House is a cross-over market they go into the Wal-Mart and stores like that along with the Christian book stores. And that’s who we knew we had to write to.

Sid: And as you explain to me non-Christians don’t believe in miracles and when they read it they’ll have to because these… You had 66 different stories and they’re all verified miracles and Christians need this too to build their faith..

Sheri: That’s right.