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Our Guest Paul Wilbur
Sid: I have on the telephone I’m speaking to him at his home in Jacksonville, Florida anointed Levite psalmists Paul Wilbur. I’m interviewing him and playing selections from his CD “Lion of Judah.” Paul there is one selection, well there are more than one most of them, but there’s one in particular that really does something to my spirit. It is called “Dance With Me” tell me about that song.
Paul: That is a song Sid that has from the very first moment I heard it impacted my life probably as much as any song I can imagine. It’s come out of the Song of Songs or the Song of Solomon and it’s a song of the lover to his bride. Yet at the same time it’s a cry from the heart of the bride to the groom. I’ve discovered this song it came out of the International House of Prayer under the direction of Mike Bickle there in Kansas City. These are houses all over the world now Sid that spend 24/7 that means 24 hours a day 7 days a week in intercessory prayer and in worship. It is a phenomenal phenomenal ministry tugging on the heart of God.
Sid: What is going on in your heart when you’re singing that song “Dance With Me?”
Paul: Well it is so intimate. If you read the Song of Songs the book of the Song of Solomon there are some portions of that book which are almost embarrassingly revealing of the call of the bride to the groom, and the groom to the bride. It’s an intimacy which is reserved for those who are the absolutely closest of friends. Even as Yeshua said the closest thing He could resemble it to would be a marriage covenant that is kept and walked in in its fulness by a man and a woman. But it still goes so far beyond it’s a song it’s a call and as I sing it I close my eyes I try to block out everybody and everything. I’m calling my heart it’s deep call to deep for the communion the sense of the wrapping of His arms around me to hold me close.
Sid: There are people that are listening to us Paul that have lost their first love and we’re so close, we’re so close to the Messiah’s return. There is such a job that He has on every single person that’s listening to my voice right now. It’s… I want you to be a coach tell us what to do as we listen to this song “Dance With Me.”
Paul: Sid I’ve gotten so many testimonies from people and not again to exclude the men but particularly from the women who listen to this song. Here’s what I would suggest, take the music take the CD sit down in a quiet place and put this on this song “Dance With Me” and you may even put it just to repeat over and over. Get yourself into a position where you can just simply put aside all the cares of the day, the thoughts and things that would distract and listen deeply to the words of this song. It is a call from God Himself to you. We have actually had so many testimonies Sid of women who had been abused or abandoned, or felt unlovely they have actually experienced listening to this music that Jesus would take them up into His arms and dance them around the room. Take them on tours around the universe if that sounds too strange for some folks. I challenge them put it on and see where the Spirit of God will take them.
Sid: You’re telling me you have testimonies of people that have been just drifted so deep in the Spirit from this music?
Paul: Hmm hmm and me myself I told you yesterday in the… not only in the recording time but many times in just simply singing these songs there is an anointing Sid as you said yesterday that destroys yokes. It’s not just yokes of our thought patters, it’s not just yokes of financial bondage it’s every yoke He destroys them and the anointing does it. It’s not just something you can beg for, you can’t pay for it, you can’t yearn and plead for it. It’s just His anointing that He gives freely and He’s no respecter of persons.
Sid: There are some people with arthritis. As you worship God right now I tell you that arthritis will be destroyed by the anointing because the anointing destroys the yoke.
Excerpt: Dance With Me
Sid: That’s “Dance With Me” by Paul Wilbur. Paul this came from the Song of Solomon, Song of Songs and what else does that tell us about intimacy Song of Songs?
Paul: Well this thing is so intimate Sid as we said earlier it can almost be embarrassing. Listen to these words that God wrote for us in the Song of Songs chapter 2 it says in verse 8:
Listen My lover look here he comes leaping across the mountains bounding over the hills. He’s coming to us he’s coming over the mountains and the hills for us. It says: Look there he stands behind the wall. My lover spoke to and said to me ‘Arise my darling my beautiful one and come with me.’
See the winter is passed even as we sang in that song. The depression is passed, the fear is passed, the sickness is passed, the winter is passed, and the springtime has come. Flowers appear on the earth, a season of singing has come. Arise my darling come my beautiful one and come with me.
Sid: My goodness what do you say after that? You can’t say anything but what’s going to happen on tomorrow’s broadcast? Can we top it Paul?
Paul: (Laughing) We’re going to go on about intimacy because even though it may be a little bit embarrassing for us in our western way of thought. This is exactly why Yeshua gave Himself because He wants us to be intimate with Him.
Sid: You have seen many many people physically healed and God’s not a respecter of persons. Your father-in-law who I personally know also got a death sentence tell me about that.
Paul: Well he went in this past September, this last fall, to have his gallbladder removed. When they opened him up they almost closed him back because they found cancer in the bio duct, they found cancer in his liver, they found cancer in his lymph system. The doctor said “Well I’ve got him open” and spent 8½ hours operating trying to remove whatever he could see. But then they closed him up…
Sid: Wait… quickly what was the prognosis?
Paul: Well they said that he’d be dead by Christmas.
Sid: Alright we’ll pick up here on tomorrow’s broadcast.
Our Guest Nita Johnson
Sid: My guest by way of telephone is Nita Johnson. On yesterday’s broadcast we found out that Nita from a young age, 9 years of age, started having visitations to the throne room of God and seeing the Last Day judgments in America. But recently one of the warnings God that said was the last judgment was going to be war. She received a mandate that unless we pray there will be war on our shores in the very near future. In particular the sin of anti-Semitism… for those that aren’t familiar would you tell me a little bit of the history of this nation, say in particular during World War II in reference to anti-Semitism.
Nita: In 1935 this is the general mindset of America, there were few white collar jobs available to choose, no top positions in universities, a Jew could not hold any kind of top position in universities. Jewish people could not work in most of our hospitals either as nurses or doctors. Even many blue collared jobs were barred from the Jewish people. For instance if a secretary was discovered to have Jewish family, Jewish bloodline, she could very probably lose her job because of her Jewishness. They were not allowed to join country clubs, they were barred from the elite restaurants across the nation. When I say barred signs were put out in front of the restaurants “No Jews Allowed.” So they were barred from our more elite restaurants.
Sid: In my lifetime I remember I was raised in Washington D.C. and I remember going to a beach and I couldn’t get over the fact that there was a sign that said “No blacks, or Jews, or dogs allowed.”
Nita: That’s very sad isn’t it?
Sid: So those that are thinking “Wait a second, not in the United States of America.” Go on Nita.
Nita: Yes that was prominent. There was a survey conducted back in 1935 and in that survey they found that 53% of the American public saw Jews as the most troublesome people group in the world. 83% opposed admission of Jewish people in larger numbers as immigrants. So America was very very strongly anti-Semitic. That anti-Semitic spirit came to America from Europe when our ancestors came here from Europe. The common rhetoric of the hour was “Jews want to take over the world and must be stopped.” But the truth was that in 1935 they were one of the more oppressed people groups by in large in the entire world. In 1933 when Hitler was assigned to his office by the then chancellor Paul Von Hindenburg, he immediately began anti-Semitic propaganda in Germany and surrounding nations, the nations surrounding Germany. He established the first prison which is Dachau is a prison camp dealing with Jewish people and other people that were not desirous to the raid. In 1933 Jewish literature began to be destroyed throughout Germany. 1935 they passed what they call the “Nuremburg laws” which stripped all Jews of their rights and privileges. Jews were no longer allowed to intermarry with Gentiles and many other rights and privileges were removed. In Germany, Poland, in Austria, once the Nuremburg laws were passed in 1935 Jews were openly harassed, beaten, imprisoned, their businesses were boycotted, and their lives began to be governed by an ever increasing anti-Semitic laws that were being established in Germany. In 1938 this had increased so much the persecution against the Jewish people murders being a common everyday event of the Jewish people in Europe that they had what was called the Evian Conference. It came to be known as the Evian Conference in Evian France. Thirty two nations came together, this conference was spearheaded by the way by America. Thirty two nations came together to discuss the forced massive deportations of the Jews trying to decide what to do with them. There was only out of the 32 nations that attended this conference there was only 1 nation that was willing to take Jews and that was the Dominican Republic and they offered to open their borders to a hundred thousand Jewish families. Of the hundred thousand that they were willing to open their borders to, and that was at the cost of a tremendous financial settlement by the way. Of the hundred thousand that were supposed to have been accepted only one thousand ultimately were accepted the end of the war in 1945. The Jewish ambassador, I mean the German ambassador went home and told Hitler “We can do what we want with them no one wants them.” So that opened the floodgates of Hitler’s hatred for the Jewish people across Germany. In November of that same year an event took place that came to be known as “Kristallnacht.” In Kristallnacht the Jewish businesses were desecrated, destroyed I mean windows were… the main thing about that whole thing was the broken that’s why it was called “Kristallnacht,” the “Night of the broken glass.” They broke the windows of Jewish businesses, the Jewish synagogues; they destroyed many Jewish synagogues across Germany and across Austria, and burned Jewish religious books. From the time that Kristallnacht… oh and they picked up 30 thousand men Sid for no reason except the fact that they were Jewish; picked up 30 thousand men and put them in prison camps. The only men that came out of those prison camps alive were men whose families could prove to the government that they had visas or had landing permits to make a home in another country. If they couldn’t prove that the man was never released and he died in the prison camp. So synagogues were destroyed, businesses were destroyed, men were picked up and imprisoned, Jewish hospitals were destroyed, were looted, schools were looted, Jewish schools were looted and tremendous damage done all the way across Germany and Austria. From that point on Jews began to be barred from theatres, from public parks, Jewish children could no longer go to Gentile schools in fact even the Jewish schools were shut down so the Jewish children couldn’t go to school period. By the end of 1938 almost all Jewish banks had been forcibly put into the hands of Gentiles. Now I’m sharing all of this for 2 reasons:
- To explain to the listener that there is one thing that has perpetrated every holocaust against the Jewish people, the Lord spoke this to me audibly. In my hours and hours of studying investigation regarding various holocausts I found it to be true and that is greed. The Gentile has risen up in greed desiring what was of the Jew. So they desired their homes, they desired their artwork, they desired their businesses, they desired their money. So the holocaust would begin and Jews would be killed in mass. Their property confiscated even as most listeners know they would even take the gold out of teeth. To the tune of millions and millions of dollars. So greed is at the bottom of every holocaust that has been perpetrated upon the Jewish person. It was no different in Germany.
Sid: Now of course, and it can never be treated lightly with the 6 million men, Jewish men, women, and children that were murdered just because they were Jews. But what is not known is the sad history of the United States of America while this was going on. Would you tell me some of that?
Nita: In America we were very aware of what was taking place at least our government leaders were. Roosevelt was, the man Breckinridge Long who headed the immigration, and of the government was well aware of what was going on. In fact he was a known anti-Semite in his day. So our government knew what was taking place in Europe…
Sid: Nita I’m sorry we’re out of time.
Our Guest Nita Johnson
Sid: My guest by way of telephone is Nita Johnson. On yesterday’s broadcast we found out that Nita from a young age, 9 years of age, started having visitations to the throne room of God and seeing the Last Day judgments in America. But recently one of the warnings God that said was the last judgment was going to be war. She received a mandate that unless we pray there will be war on our shores in the very near future. In particular the sin of anti-Semitism… for those that aren’t familiar would you tell me a little bit of the history of this nation, say in particular during World War II in reference to anti-Semitism.
Nita: In 1935 this is the general mindset of America, there were few white collar jobs available to choose, no top positions in universities, a Jew could not hold any kind of top position in universities. Jewish people could not work in most of our hospitals either as nurses or doctors. Even many blue collared jobs were barred from the Jewish people. For instance if a secretary was discovered to have Jewish family, Jewish bloodline, she could very probably lose her job because of her Jewishness. They were not allowed to join country clubs, they were barred from the elite restaurants across the nation. When I say barred signs were put out in front of the restaurants “No Jews Allowed.” So they were barred from our more elite restaurants.
Sid: In my lifetime I remember I was raised in Washington D.C. and I remember going to a beach and I couldn’t get over the fact that there was a sign that said “No blacks, or Jews, or dogs allowed.”
Nita: That’s very sad isn’t it?
Sid: So those that are thinking “Wait a second, not in the United States of America.” Go on Nita.
Nita: Yes that was prominent. There was a survey conducted back in 1935 and in that survey they found that 53% of the American public saw Jews as the most troublesome people group in the world. 83% opposed admission of Jewish people in larger numbers as immigrants. So America was very very strongly anti-Semitic. That anti-Semitic spirit came to America from Europe when our ancestors came here from Europe. The common rhetoric of the hour was “Jews want to take over the world and must be stopped.” But the truth was that in 1935 they were one of the more oppressed people groups by in large in the entire world. In 1933 when Hitler was assigned to his office by the then chancellor Paul Von Hindenburg, he immediately began anti-Semitic propaganda in Germany and surrounding nations, the nations surrounding Germany. He established the first prison which is Dachau is a prison camp dealing with Jewish people and other people that were not desirous to the raid. In 1933 Jewish literature began to be destroyed throughout Germany. 1935 they passed what they call the “Nuremburg laws” which stripped all Jews of their rights and privileges. Jews were no longer allowed to intermarry with Gentiles and many other rights and privileges were removed. In Germany, Poland, in Austria, once the Nuremburg laws were passed in 1935 Jews were openly harassed, beaten, imprisoned, their businesses were boycotted, and their lives began to be governed by an ever increasing anti-Semitic laws that were being established in Germany. In 1938 this had increased so much the persecution against the Jewish people murders being a common everyday event of the Jewish people in Europe that they had what was called the Evian Conference. It came to be known as the Evian Conference in Evian France. Thirty two nations came together, this conference was spearheaded by the way by America. Thirty two nations came together to discuss the forced massive deportations of the Jews trying to decide what to do with them. There was only out of the 32 nations that attended this conference there was only 1 nation that was willing to take Jews and that was the Dominican Republic and they offered to open their borders to a hundred thousand Jewish families. Of the hundred thousand that they were willing to open their borders to, and that was at the cost of a tremendous financial settlement by the way. Of the hundred thousand that were supposed to have been accepted only one thousand ultimately were accepted the end of the war in 1945. The Jewish ambassador, I mean the German ambassador went home and told Hitler “We can do what we want with them no one wants them.” So that opened the floodgates of Hitler’s hatred for the Jewish people across Germany. In November of that same year an event took place that came to be known as “Kristallnacht.” In Kristallnacht the Jewish businesses were desecrated, destroyed I mean windows were… the main thing about that whole thing was the broken that’s why it was called “Kristallnacht,” the “Night of the broken glass.” They broke the windows of Jewish businesses, the Jewish synagogues; they destroyed many Jewish synagogues across Germany and across Austria, and burned Jewish religious books. From the time that Kristallnacht… oh and they picked up 30 thousand men Sid for no reason except the fact that they were Jewish; picked up 30 thousand men and put them in prison camps. The only men that came out of those prison camps alive were men whose families could prove to the government that they had visas or had landing permits to make a home in another country. If they couldn’t prove that the man was never released and he died in the prison camp. So synagogues were destroyed, businesses were destroyed, men were picked up and imprisoned, Jewish hospitals were destroyed, were looted, schools were looted, Jewish schools were looted and tremendous damage done all the way across Germany and Austria. From that point on Jews began to be barred from theatres, from public parks, Jewish children could no longer go to Gentile schools in fact even the Jewish schools were shut down so the Jewish children couldn’t go to school period. By the end of 1938 almost all Jewish banks had been forcibly put into the hands of Gentiles. Now I’m sharing all of this for 2 reasons:
- To explain to the listener that there is one thing that has perpetrated every holocaust against the Jewish people, the Lord spoke this to me audibly. In my hours and hours of studying investigation regarding various holocausts I found it to be true and that is greed. The Gentile has risen up in greed desiring what was of the Jew. So they desired their homes, they desired their artwork, they desired their businesses, they desired their money. So the holocaust would begin and Jews would be killed in mass. Their property confiscated even as most listeners know they would even take the gold out of teeth. To the tune of millions and millions of dollars. So greed is at the bottom of every holocaust that has been perpetrated upon the Jewish person. It was no different in Germany.
Sid: Now of course, and it can never be treated lightly with the 6 million men, Jewish men, women, and children that were murdered just because they were Jews. But what is not known is the sad history of the United States of America while this was going on. Would you tell me some of that?
Nita: In America we were very aware of what was taking place at least our government leaders were. Roosevelt was, the man Breckinridge Long who headed the immigration, and of the government was well aware of what was going on. In fact he was a known anti-Semite in his day. So our government knew what was taking place in Europe…
Sid: Nita I’m sorry we’re out of time.
Our Guest Patti Perior
Sid: I have on the telephone Patti Perior and I’m speaking to her at her home in Porter Ranch, California and she was mentored and her spiritual father was Tommy Hicks. And Tommy Hicks is a man that God used to ignite an entire nation Argentina with the Holy Spirit wonderful miracles occurred. The thing that intrigued me so much is Patty told me that she had a prophecy for Tommy Hicks got his number called him up and gave him the prophesy and it obviously was so right on that he said “I want to meet this person.” So he invited her over to his house and her brother came with her and she saw a midst of God’s glory around his face to the point that she couldn’t even make out his features. And she said to her brother “Did you see that?” And her brother said “Yes I had that same experience.” And Patti was crying out “God there must be something more and God I need Your love, I need greater intimacy with You, God there must be more!” And she received a baptism of love that…Tommy prayed for her and said that she was one of the first people that had received that beside himself. And I have to tell you Patti I want that desperately listen we have listeners right now that want that baptism of love desperately. Describe what that is exactly again in your words.
Patti: It is an overwhelming endearment. It is the presence of love as He manifests Himself in different ways this is such a manifestation of feeling that it goes so deep in you like a river of life, a river of love that is just overwhelming. It takes you into that deep deep intimacy with Him and gives you such love for Him and for the Body of Christ. Such love for the world you understand you understand why Jesus laid His life down on that cross for the world because of the consuming love of God in Him.
Sid: I can sense the best way to describe it is that Jesus said “You shall have rivers of living water flowing continuously from your innermost being.” And those that are open to the Holy Spirit and that’s sensing that river on this entire interview especially is pouring out right now. Okay Patti.
Patti: Well I just…I would like to pray for those who desire to receive this baptism of His love. I feel the Holy Spirit has been drawing and wooing the Bride of Christ the true believers to Himself because He wants to give us more more of Himself. He wants us to have more He wants us to desire Him more so that He can fill us with His fullness. And though you have all of the gifts and you have not the love of God they amount to nothing. God wants us to have lasting fruit, fruit that remains as it says in John 15:16. So I’d like to just pray for you right now. I just pray for you right now that you’d open your heart just whatever you’re doing just set it aside. Some maybe driving in your cars well God wants you just fully open your heart so I’m going to pray for you right now. Father God Lord God there are things that have gotten in our way that have cluttered up the river. And Lord I pray that those things will be removed; if there be anything of bitterness, resentfulness in our hearts and lives that causes youth pains that cause displeasure to You Lord we ask You to remove it right now in the name of Jesus. Because we want Your river of life we want that river of love to flow into us to just overflow to so fill every dimension of our being that we can be. Lord in order to be as You are Lord you told us to be as You are we are as You are. Without that fullness we cannot operate in this life in the Spirit without that fullness of Your love in the name of Jesus. I pray for every person listening to this program that the Holy Spirit of the Living God will come in them from the top of the head down into the souls of their feet to fill their innermost being with that love of God that surpasses understanding that is beyond anything this world could ever give. Pour out that Holy Spirit that river of love, that river of life I thank You dear Jesus anoint them especially this day with that Holy Spirit the Spirit of love in life in Jesus name we pray Amen.
Sid: Amen amen receive receive in Yeshua’s name receive in Jesus name thank You Father, thank You Lord. Patti there’s such a strong anointing I would like you to continue praying for people to be physically healed right now for miracles to break loose.
Patti: Father God we thank You that You are a God that restores and makes them new and makes life and makes perfect. The Lord is showing me there is somebody that has a condition in the center of their head that has to do with the pituitary gland. Lord God I pray right now the Holy Spirit will touch this one and release them. I pray the Holy Spirit the Spirit of life that will bring the healing power the healing virtue to this one and that head will be released in the name of Jesus I praise You I thank You dear God. There is somebody listening that has a spirit of suicide. In the name of Jesus I come against the spirit of suicide and I curse that spirit in Jesus name and I command that to go in the name of Jesus and by the blood of Jesus I command that spirit of suicide (Praying in the Spirit) and for the Holy Spirit to come upon that person and give them peace and give them the encouragement and give them the hope that You want them to have to raise them up strong to give them peace in their innermost being dear Jesus. I thank You that You are the Prince of Peace establishing Yourself Lord God I pray for all of those listening for those spirits of suicide I believe will thank You Lord. There are going in Jesus name Lord for arthritis I pray the Holy Spirit will heal people with arthritis that are listening. Those limbs that are stiff and are in pain they will be freed right now in the name of Jesus. Thank You Lord I just pray You’ll move upon these listeners dear God and Lord I pray for that one with this heart condition and I shared how Jesus Christ has healed my heart. I pray Lord God that Your Spirit will come upon those that have heart condition and that You will totally heal in Your precious name Lord Jesus Your precious name thank You Lord.
Sid: While Patti was praying for arthritis I very specifically heard legs being healed, legs being healed and backs being healed in Jesus name. Spines being totally healed thank You Father I really believe that there are people you’re feeling the pain just leave. And Father God I thank You that those that listening that have not made You Lord they might have said a prayer with Billy but to be born again but they have not made You Lord. And this is eternal life that you might know Him not just say a prayer with Billy, not just intellectually believe but have an experience with God. If you tell God you’re sorry for your sins and believe the blood of Jesus washed away your sins and do this out loud just say “Dear God I’m a sinner please forgive me with Your help and turn from my sins I believe the blood of Jesus has washed away my sins. And now that I am clean I ask Jesus to live inside of me. I make you Lord over every area of my life Amen.”
Our Guest Craig Hill
Sid: We want everyone everywhere to hear the good news but there is a problem in America. It’s got to do with money, it’s got to do with the lust connected with money, it’s got to do with misunderstanding God’s principles of finance. I have felt for a long time there’s something off there’s something that needs to be corrected having to do with money in the body of Messiah and the approaches for raising money, and the reasons and the motives for giving money. I got ahold of an audio cassette series by an individual a teacher that we’ve had on Messianic Vision before friend of mine Craig Hill he’s founder of the Family Foundation International. They conduct seminars on helping families, teaching seminars they’re based in Littleton, Colorado. I have Craig on the telephone right now and you gave an example in your series I don’t think anyone could ever forget and you call it “Sparrow Faith.” Would you explain this Craig?
Craig: Sure. That comes Sid from Matthew chapter 6:24 – 26 and of course verse 24 we talked about in the last couple of days “You cannot serve God and mammon.” We’re talking again about the fact that mammon is a spirit it’s not money, but Jesus goes on in verse 25 and He says “Therefore” which of course means because of what I just said you cannot serve God and mammon, “therefore I say to you do not worry about your life.” What we find most Christians doing a spending a lot of time worrying about their life. Jesus said “Don’t do that, not what you will eat, what you will drink, nor about your body, what you will put on is not life more than food and the body more than clothing.” And verse 26 is really the interesting one, and of course I’ve read this verse all my life and it was just only a couple of years ago that something new and it came alive to me because verse 26 is Jesus’ example of how provision comes to us. So how are we supposed to be provided for? Every one of us needs provision, every one of us needs food, we clothing, we need shelter, we need these types of things. So how is that meant to come? And Jesus tells us in verse 26 His picture here is “Look at the sparrows,” or some translations say “The birds of the air for they neither sow nor reap, nor gather in the barns yet Your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they?” The thing that just shocked me Sid when this came alive to me is all my life what I’ve always heard people say is “When you’re in need, when you don’t have enough money the thing that you need to do is you need to give. And the reason you need to do that is because of sowing and reaping because of the principle of sowing and reaping.” The thing I saw in the scripture was that that’s not wrong to give when we’re in need but usually people are doing it for a wrong motive. The motive is they are giving to try to get God to meet their need and the problem with that is that throws God’s provision back on the basis of my works again instead of His grace. Whereas Jesus is actually saying here He says the example of the picture is the sparrows, “Look at the sparrows they don’t sow or reap, or gather in the barns. The reason they’re provided for is their Father in heaven loves them and it’s His good pleasure and delight to give to them, to make provision for them.” Something came alive in my spirit Sid when I saw that I suddenly realized God’s provision for me is not based on anything I do or don’t do. God’s provision for me is as a result of His grace to me…
Sid: And yet there is a truth in the law of sowing and reaping, and yet what it’s saying there is it’s not based on their sowing and reaping it’s based on God’s care.
Craig: That’s right sowing and reaping is not for the purpose of getting your need met according to Jesus here. Jesus says “I’m going to meet your need because I love you, or My Father’s going to meet your need because He loves you.” Another picture…
Sid: Sounds like a good God to me.
Craig: Oh it’s wonderful to understand who God is. Another picture that would go along parallel with that is a little child in the home of his parents. Most little children that I know of would not be required to sow and reap in order to receive their provision. In other words, how ridiculous would be for a little child to come up to his mother at lunch and say “Mommy if I give you half of my peanut butter sandwich, or if I give away half of my peanut butter sandwich to somebody that’s in need could I please have dinner?” Well no his mother says “I’m going to give you dinner anyway just because I love you.” Not that giving away half your peanut butter sandwich would be a wrong thing to do, but that’s not the reason to do it you give it away because you want to bless that person that has need but I don’t try give away half my peanut butter sandwich as a little child to try to induce my parents to make provision for me. No my parents made provision for me when I was a child because they loved me. Jesus’ point here is “My Father in heaven wants to make provision for you because He loves you.” The powerful scripture that I saw in the Amplified is Hebrews chapter 13 verse 5 and 6. It says:
“Let your character or moral disposition be free from love of money [including greed, avarice, lust, and craving for earthly possessions] and be satisfied with your present [circumstances and with what you have]; for He [God] Himself has said,” Now this isn’t your father who said this, or your pastor who said this, or your husband, this is God Himself who said this: “I will not in any way fail you nor give you up nor leave you without support. [I will] not, [I will] not, [I will] not in any degree leave you helpless nor forsake nor let [you] down (relax My hold on you)! [Assuredly not!] So we take comfort and are encouraged and confidently and boldly say, The Lord is my Helper; I will not be seized with alarm [I will not fear or dread or be terrified]. What can man do to me?”
Sid: You know Craig as you’re aware many and many of the Mishpochah are I come from a Jewish background. I had what was known as a classic Jewish mother I had a good father too, but I had what was known as a classic Jewish mother.
Craig: Right.
Sid: Whenever I had a need mom would come through.
Craig: Yep.
Sid: Whether I was good or bad, stupid or smart I knew unconditionally my mom would come through. Now when I became a believer in the Messiah somehow that picture of my mom coming through was transferred to my heavenly Father. I can’t tell you how but it was it was like a natural step. I have always felt that God would provide and guess what, He has.
Craig: That’s your experience.
Sid: But someone may not have had an experience like that and may treat God the way perhaps their mother or father treated them…
Craig: That’s right.
Sid: …And have that wrong picture on the inside of them.
Craig: That’s exactly right. That’s true for an awful lot of people that they have a wrong picture or often times through wrong teaching. They’ve been taught that their provision is dependent upon what they do that they better do this, they better do that and if they don’t God isn’t going to provide for them. That is a wrong picture of God because God loves us. You don’t see sparrows running around having anxiety attacks…
Sid: (Laughing) You gave a story of a man that didn’t… just had enough money for a bus ride home, the weather was bad, the distance was far…
Craig: Yeah.
Sid: …And you did something that some people would say “Shame on you Craig Hill.” What did you do?
Craig: (Laughing) I felt like when it happened I had a man come for counsel. Our ministry at that time was supported by the offerings people gave. So we always prayed with each person at each time each session and said “Let’s pray and ask the Lord what you’re to give in the offering.” So I did that same with this man and he said “Well we don’t even need to pray I have nothing.” And I felt, it was real strange Sid, I felt the Spirit of God just rise up in me and I said to him something that I would’ve never in my own natural mind wanted to say, but I said “I don’t believe you. Empty your pockets.” He emptied his billfold, and he emptied his pockets, and sure enough he had nothing in his billfold but out fell 50 cents from his pocket.
Sid: Big deal!
Craig: Yeah, and I said “I knew you had something.”
Sid: (Laughing)
Craig: And he looked at me with terror in his eyes and he said “No that’s my bus fare home. I live 16 miles away I’m going to have to walk home in the snow if you take that away from me.” I felt the Lord just rise up again in me and I said “You know what we’re going to pray and ask God what part of that you’re going to give in the offering.” Terror just struck his heart and that’s when I realized why God was asking me to do that and the reason was… again this spirit of mammon had so gripped this man’s mind that he was trusting in 50 cents he wasn’t trusting in God to get him home he never trusted in God he always trusted in those little coins to get him home. And of course as we said a couple of days ago in reality there’s no power in those coins there’s power in God.
Sid: There’s some people listening and they’re say “Well that’s not me I have more than 50 cents.” But you know what in principle that’s many people, you’re speaking to many people Craig right now.
Craig: And I told that man “You’ve got to know I’m not after your money. I mean you could give the whole 50 cents and I don’t think it’s going to change anything in our ministry one way or the other, but what I’m after is faith in your heart to begin to rise up toward God. What I call Sparrow Faith to know that God loves you and he’s going to provide for you. And what we’re going to do right now is break the power of that spirit of mammon…”
Sid: How do you, that’s a good question, how do you break the power of that spirit?
Craig: Yeah 2 things:
- First of all recognize it and repent.
- You begin to give. You begin to break the power of that spirit by taking money which was designed for buying and selling and you begin to give it, not for the purpose of… here’s the distinction that’s tricky. Not for the purpose of trying to get God to meet my need because of my giving, but what I’m doing is breaking the power of that spirit’s hold over my mind.
Jesus did it for example with a rich young ruler that came to Him. He asked that rich young ruler to sell everything he had and give it to the poor. And of course the disciples I’m sure were thinking “Well we have some stuff do we have to do the same Jesus?” People may be listening today “Well is that what I really need to do? Should I sell everything and give it to the poor?” You know what I’ve told some people Sid “If you have ask the question maybe you do?” Because the issue is not the money or the stuff the issue is “In what is my trust?” and that was the issue for this man.
Sid: Did the man give his 50 cents?
Craig: In the end we prayed and he felt like the Lord was speaking to him to give 5 cents.
Sid: Yeah but he needed 50 cents to get home.
Craig: That’s right.
Sid: So 45 doesn’t cut it.
Craig: That’s and that’s what he was afraid of. So he gave his 5 cents walked… and we prayed over it, walked out of my office came back the next week with a miracle story. He said “I was still angry when I went down to the bus stop” but he said “It was an amazing thing I found a nickel at the base of the bus stop sign.” He said “It was halfway home before I even acknowledged it was God.” He said “I was still angry and I said to myself ‘Boy that was sure lucky I found this.’” Then halfway home he realized “God that was You, You did that!” When he got home he in addition found an unexpected check for $5 in the mail which he attributed to God. He came back the next week excited he said “I’m ready to pray! Can we pray in advance I want to begin to give in the offering,” and that man’s life turned around and changed as that spirit was broken over him…
Sid: No matter what is going on in your life things can turn around, and if the good that can be better and if they’re bad allow for the supernatural.