It's Supernatural

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. What would it be like if every prayer you prayed was answered? Do you think your prayer life would be more important than it is now? Do you think you might be praying all the time? Well my guest says she’s learned through God teaching her step by step how to have all your prayers answered and she’d like to teach you. Is there anyone interested? You know, Jennifer, I have a picture inside of me. You’re a young child. You’re abandoned by your father and I can just picture you walking up to strangers, strange men and saying to them, are you my daddy? That must have been a tough time for you.

JENNIFER: That was what was repeated to me, that I was doing at that time just as a very young child, looking for my dad.

SID: And your mom remarried. She married a Mormon and so you became part of the Mormon Church. You kind of had your period of rebellion. You drank, you did coke. That’s more than a period. That’s a big period of rebellion. And how in the world did God get a hold of you?

JENNIFER: It was a miracle because I had no interest in Christianity at all. As a Mormon, naturally they want you to stay in the Mormon Church and you’re taught who to avoid, so we were taught to avoid Christians. And so becoming desperate, becoming understanding that the Mormon Church was not taking care of my problems, my uncle, he invited us to church and he went to a Pentecostal church. That would be far cry, the farthest thing that we would ever go to. But when you’re desperate you try things you would never try.

SID: If you’re sinking in the ocean you don’t care who throws you a rope.

JENNIFER: Exactly. So my mother and my half-sister, and myself, my stepfather didn’t come, we went to my uncle’s church and it was wild. It was everything you would think about as far as a traditional, old style, vintage Pentecostal church.

SID: You had zero grid.

JENNIFER: No grid at all. Ran around the church in worship. The ladies didn’t wear makeup. They believed that was holiness. And I sat there not even registering at all what the preacher was saying. And then what happened is he began to play on his guitar, and he sang to the congregation. And I remember exactly what he sang, and he sang “Are you Ready.” And when he hit that I felt the power and the presence of God upon me. It was like liquid warmth and it came all over me. And I felt that, and I began to cry. And I heard a statement in my heart. It was God speaking to me. It was Jesus speaking to me, and it was a distinguishable thought, and it was I accept you as you are. And it’s something I needed to hear because as a Mormon I was not feeling accepted as I was. I was failing the standard. But here Jesus, before I even accepted him, before I knew him the correct way, he was saying I accept you as you are. And so one of the ladies in the church, she sat down next to me because I was obviously being touched by God, crying and everything. And she asked me if I’d like to receive Jesus into my heart, and I said yes. And she prayed me through the traditional sinner’s prayer, and I meant it with all my heart. And then she said this, she said, “Would you like be baptized in the Holy Spirit? Now I knew about the term, but I didn’t know what it meant. Mormons, we didn’t have that in the Mormon Church obviously. And I said yes, and I began to speak in tongues.

SID: Did she tell you to speak in a supernatural language?

JENNIFER: No, she didn’t.

SID: It just bubbled out of you.

JENNIFER: Yes, it just came right out.

SID: So you get settled in the faith, but you must have had a problem with your Mormon stepdad.

JENNIFER: I did. He didn’t come to us, excuse me, he didn’t come to that church service. Obviously he wasn’t going to have anything to do with that. And about a month after my mother and myself, and my half-sister, we all gave our life to Jesus, about a month after I was studying for my exams in my bedroom. I of course lived with my family and the power of God came upon me for intercession. I hadn’t been taught about intercession. I hadn’t been taught about prayer. I didn’t know anything about this. All I know is I was on the floor weeping, wailing, crying out to God for the salvation of my stepfather, and I landed it like this. I landed it saying to God, I said, “Save my stepfather or why don’t I just die.” The words were really strong. And so I thought—

SID: That is strong. Save my stepfather or just kill me. That’s what in effect you just prayed.

JENNIFER: Yes. And so it was not long after that a local church in town, they offered a seminar on the differences between Christianity and Mormonism, and he actually went on his own. And as a result of that he gave his life to Jesus.

SID: You learned from starting with praying for your stepdad and your family about prayer that few believers understand. You say that when you realize the value of prayer you have tremendous influence with God. I want to find out why you have such influence with God. Any of you interested in that? I am. Be right back.

SID:                 Sid Roth with Something More. I’m with my good friend Jonathan Bernis and you know Jonathan from Jewish Voice. You’ve probably seen him on television. Jonathan, you have a passion for the Lost Tribes. Question One: What are the Lost Tribes?

 

JONATHAN:    Well there’s two definitions of Lost Tribes. I’ll give ‘em both to you. The narrow definition is that in 722 B.C. the northern ten tribes of Israel were taken into captivity by the Assyrians. It’s called the Assyrian captivity. This is at a time when Israel and Judah were divided. Ten in the north, 2 tribes in the south. And they were never heard from again. We don’t read about them coming back from the Assyrian captivity and so in a narrow sense the ten lost tribes are those ten tribes that were taken by the Assyrians and we don’t know what happened to them. There’s lots of speculation throughout history. The other definition of the Lost Tribes are really what I call the scattered remnant of Israel. You need to understand, Sid, that through history the Jewish people were scattered numerous times.

 

SID:                 Of course.

 

JONATHAN:    The ten tribes. Then the tribe of Judah was taken captive into Babylon. Only a remnant returned. What happened to the rest? 70 A.D. Jerusalem was destroyed by the Romans. After the Bar Kokhba revolt in 132 B.C. or A.D. rather, 132 to 136, they forbid Jews to live in Jerusalem and Israel and this is known as the Diaspora, the great dispersion. And then throughout the Middle Ages you have Jewish communities being banished from different countries and wandering through Italy, through England, through Spain. The Spanish Inquisition of 1492. Later Portugal, a few years later. Where did the Jewish people go? They were scattered throughout the nations of the world. And so now God is in process of fulfilling I believe fulfilling Isaiah chapter 11 and other prophecies where He says “I will regather the outcasts of Israel.” So the Lost Tribes, the scattered remnant of Israel are the Jewish communities that were scattered throughout the world, wandering throughout the world and are now being restored to the nation of Israel, to the State of Israel.

 

SID:     Some Rabbis actually believe essential for End Times is to restore the Lost Tribes from the four corners.

 

JONATHAN:    Well I absolutely believe that. The promise to regather His people back to the Land, see He said if you disobey My commandments you will be scattered but then I will draw you back. Deuteronomy and almost every prophet talks about the regathering at a set time in history and I believe it’s the time known as the End of Days or The Last Days.

 

SID:                 Okay. Well you are really specializing in this. How did it start?

 

JONATHAN:    Well for me personally I, as with many other things like Russia, I wandered into it. It was really God’s divine leading without me even knowing about it. I was…

 

SID:                 I thought that was just me!

 

JONATHAN:    No, no, no.

 

SID:                 I call God the great pusher. I’d like to say I’m the great follower but in my life He’s pushed me into everything.

 

JONATHAN:    No, both of us have been pushed into things. We had no idea.

 

SID:                 Right.

 

JONATHAN:    And He prepared this for us before the foundation of the world. That’s what is so exciting! Well I was invited to Ethiopia after the Russian revival of the 90’s which you were a part of. We saw amazing things, Sid. We saw so many salvations, healings, miracles in Russia. I could ride in a taxi and almost every taxi driver that I met I led to the Lord in a short taxi ride. It was that powerful. It was a revival. So after that began to wane I was asking God what’s next? Show me! I had no idea and I just wandered to Ethiopia. Somebody invited me to Ethiopia and that was the next assignment for me. I met a group called the Beth Israel.

 

SID:                 The House of Israel.

 

JONATHAN:   The House of Israel. Ethiopian Jews that had retained their identity and been persecuted for hundreds of years. Many had been taken back to Israel but tens of thousands remained in Ethiopia in poverty. And suddenly the light came on and I saw here’s Jewish people that are in need. You know in America we don’t think of Jewish people in financial need and poverty. In Ethiopia there’s Jews in absolute poverty and another idea, another strategy to reach Jewish people this time not with cultural festivals, with music and dance, but with medical care, with dental care, with eye care and so we began to organize, our ministry began to organize clinics.

 

SID:                 What other areas besides Ethiopia?

 

JONATHAN:    Right.

 

SID:    …have you been working in?

 

JONATHAN:    That’s where it began to answer your question. So it began in Ethiopia and then I began to read about various Lost Tribes. Different books were sent to me. Articles. And I learned about a group called the Lemba. This is…

 

SID:                 It’s in Africa.

 

 

JONATHAN:    In Africa in the remote bush of Zimbabwe. And I sent someone to try to find the Lemba. And they found the Lemba. I get this phone call from an Ethiopian member of our team, and he calls me from Ethiopia and introduces me on the phone to a member of the Zimbabwean parliament that’s a member of the Lemba tribe. And he tells me come. We’ve been praying for you. I’ve written to you, you’ve never written back. Long story short, I flew to Zimbabwe and it was so complex just getting there, Sid. I had to fly to Johannesburg which is a huge commitment in time. And then when I got to Johannesburg had to take another flight to Harare then we had to rent a small plane. Oh, and it’s even more interesting. We had to clear a field to take this small plane.

 

SID:                 I can match that description when I went to the lost tribe of the Kaifeng China Jews…

 

JONATHAN:    Right, right. I went with you. You remember?

 

SID:                 That’s right!

 

JONATHAN:    The Lord spoke to me in Russia said go with Sid and help.

 

SID:                 And then as a little aside, he never got as sick in his life (laughing)…

 

JONATHAN:    You remember.

 

SID:                 …as he got on that time.

 

JONATHAN:    One of the sickest I’ve ever been. It took me a month to recover but anyway that’s another story.

SID:      But now let, I wanna go into another area because this is so fascinating. When he does these clinics all of the doctors and nurses and dentists and people that come along they’re strong believers and they not only help the people physically but they pray for them to be physically healed. Your last event. Tell me about it.

 

JONATHAN:    Well I just came back from Zimbabwe two weeks ago, and incidentally it was in Zimbabwe that travail began to just come out of me again so there’s something in connection with these lost tribes, with the Lemba and other scattered Jewish communities that I believe is directly connected to me going back into travail. It’s a new season, Sid. We are in a new time in history.

 

SID:     It’s not just on the lost tribes.

 

JONATHAN:    No.

 

SID:                 You see Jonathan moved, he’s like a fisherman. He goes where the fish are biting. Fish were biting in the former Soviet Union? He went. God directed him there. Fish are biting in these lost tribes? God directed him there. But I’ve got some good news. This is America’s time. France’s time. Italy’s time. This is Israel’s time. The Jewish people are going to be on fire for the Lord! And once again they’re going to be the catalyst for the greatest Gentile revival in history!

 

JONATHAN:    Sid, I wannaà I justà I wanna accent that. I believe that we’re entering into the greatest revival the world has ever seen. Look back at the first century. I used to read the New Testament and think oh, if I only lived in that time when my shadow healed someone. But the more I understand the times we live in the more I’m thankful that I live in this time. I don’t wanna live in any other time than now, Sid. It’s the time to favor Zion is here!

 

SID:                 Well I had a dream and in the dream God came to me and He said “I’m coming back soon” three times! I’m coming back soon! I’m coming back soon! I’m coming back soon! Tell me some of those miracles that happened in Zimbabwe.

 

JONATHAN:    We’re seeing all kinds of miracles…

 

SID:                 Tell me some specific things you saw with your eyes.

 

JONATHAN:    So two weeks ago we had, we set up this prayer tent, and by the way the first Lemba outreach we did over 5000, now you heard this correctly, over 5000 Lemba, Jews, came to faith in Jesus as Messiah in one week. 5000!

 

SID:                 Praise God!

 

JONATHAN:    So some of the miracles. A woman came in with a goiter on her neck, a huge goiter, and as we began to pray for her, as our prayer team began to pray the goiter literally began to shrink, shrink, shrink and by the time we were done praying, our team was done praying, the goiter was completely gone.

 

SID:   By the way there’s power in the testimony and there’s someone with a goiter right now on your neck…

 

JONATHAN:    Yes!

 

SID:    ….as a matter of fact and it is going down in Yeshua’s name. In Jesus’ name. Go ahead, tell me something else you saw.

 

JONATHAN:   We’ve had other people that were carried in. They didn’t come in wheelchairs cause they don’t have wheelchairs. They were carried in just completely lame and walked out of the tent. Able to walk out. Let me tell you another one that I was part of that was absolutely amazing. This was in Ethiopia, in Gondar Ethiopia. A young man came in probably 18, 19 years of age, deaf and dumb. Now what’s fascinating is that he had grown up in the same community so it’s like a Bible experience where they all know him from childhood. And the Lord opened up his hearing and I was standing behind him whispering, kind of like an old Ernest Angley thing. Yeshua. And he was Ye-shu-a. And he was standing behind him and all of the elders of the community, and this is what made the miracle so amazing, all witnessed this and knew this young man was born this way and they had no explanation. They were absolutely stunned. And I was just kind of taunting them, getting him to talk because I could see they were, they didn’t know what to do with this. They were absolutely stunned because they knew this man his whole life.

 

SID:    And this young woman was sharing that God is telling me there’s someone with problems in your hands. And you have problems bending your fingers. If you do that right now you will walk right into your miracle. Now Jonathan, I am…

 

JONATHAN:    Carpal tunnel’s is being healed right now as we speak.

 

SID:                 I see it.

 

JONATHAN:    Carpal tunnel.

 

SID:                 Anything to do with the hands.

 

JONATHAN:    Yeah!

 

SID:                 Tell me about this. Tell me about this, this amazing brand new book.

 

JONATHAN:    Okay, Sid. This is a workbook. This is the third in a series. I’m going through the scriptures and I’m looking at the names of God, the revealed compound names of God. This one Adonai Yireh. We sing Jehovah Jireh. The correct Hebrew is Yireh. And it means The Lord Will Provide.ö It comes from Genesis 22 where God commanded Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac. So the first provision is Jesus. Okay? And everything that He provides for us. There’s two points to this. One: confessing the word of God. When we confess the word of God we’re releasing life. We’re releasing power. We’re also hearing the word and its getting into our spirit and building faith. So I’m a big believer in confession simply because it works. It’s Biblical and it works! And then I’ve connected it to the Hebrew language which is a modern revival of an ancient language. It’s a pure language. It’s a heavenly language. And I like to call it a super language. Just as there’s super foods that have nutrients and vitamins that are abnormally rich. The Hebrew language is a normallyà abnormally rich. The word Shalom for example. Peace. We have the English peace. So I say peace to you it means rest. It means to experience God’s peace. But the word Shalom has like 20 words that it’s connected to. It also means well-being. It also means wholeness. It also means completion, welfare. All of these English words that we have to confess.

 

SID:     So what you’re saying if I understand this right Jonathan takes the promises of God which are supernatural and puts ‘em in a super-food package called Hebrew. That’s the way God originally did it!

 

JONATHAN: And faith, and right. And when you confess the word. So we confess shalom we’re confessing 20, more than 20 English words and it comes to pass. Why, Sid? Because confession has creative force. What separates man from all of God’s creation is articulate speech and there’s life in the power of the tongue. So I’m a big believer in confession. I’m a big believer in Hebrew and when you put them together (clapping sound) you have a supernatural (clapping sound) emergence (clapping sound), emergence.

 

SID:                 What feedback on your first two books, The Lord Your Healer, the one The Lord Your Peace. These have been out for a while. What type of feedback is your office telling is coming on that?

 

JONATHAN:  Well I got a letter from a pastor who had taken this, I believe it was an Indian woman that was dying of cancer in the hospital. I think it was leukemia. And he began to play the tape for her. I don’t think she was able to confess it but the CD that is attached to it has me confessing the scriptures in English and then a Hebrew, a native Israeli speaking them in Hebrew and he just played it in her hospital room day after day and she was completely healed of leukemia. And he was writing to thank me for her healing. I didn’t do it. The Word (tap sound on desk) of God (tap sound on desk) healed (tap sound on desk) this woman!

 

SID:  You really have a passion for not just confessing God’s word but being able, and on the transliteration are you finding people that have never studied Hebrew can in minutes can speak it?

 

JONATHAN:    Five minutes and you’re speaking Hebrew fluently when you follow along with the Hebrew speaker.      I went to Hebrew School for years, Sid, and struggled for my Bar Mitzvah. I hated Hebrew School!

 

SID:                 Me too! (laughing)

 

JONATHAN:    And guess what? You don’t have to be a Hebrew scholar. You can actually put the Hebrew language to work in five minutes with these workbooks. And that’s what they are. They’re workbooks! You said something about investing before.

 

SID:                 Yes.

 

JONATHAN:   When you get this you’re investing in the ministry. Well you’re not just investing in the ministry, you’re investing in yourself! You’re investing in building into your spirit life. Investing into yourself peace and rest and provision and healing. All of these revelations that come out when you speak forth the Hebrew language, confess the Hebrew language it gets into your hearing, gets into your spirit and comes out being spoken with and releases life!

SID: James, you had a vision that shows how easy, and that’s the key word, easy, it is for you to walk into your destiny and purpose. Tell me about that vision.

 

JAMES: Well Sid, what I saw in that vision, the Lord was talking to me and he was making it clear that sometimes by the worldly wisdom we’re always thinking about all the things that we’ve got to do to earn our position. We’ve got to elevate ourselves through effort and trying and praying, and pressing in.

 

SID: Well but in the corporate world you jockey to get to the top and you don’t care who you step on. That’s the corporate.

 

JAMES: Right.

 

SID: My Bible says that if I will lower myself God will raise me. If I higher myself, he’ll lower me.

 

JAMES: So in my vision the Lord told me basically just to get over myself, quit thinking so much about what I’m supposed to do to get worthy of him. It’s not about me, it’s about him. It’s about what he’s done. And all the heavy lifting has already been done for us and all we have to do is just open up and receive it. And that’s what the Lord is trying to release to people. You don’t have to go through all of these machinations. You don’t have to do all of these things. Now it’s good to pray, it’s good to worship and I encourage people to do that all the time, but you just need to open your eyes, ears and your heart to see that the Lord is the one who has accomplished this for you and he wants to just release it to you right now. And we release it to you and just ask you to open your heart and claim it for yourself right now in Yeshua’s name.

 

SID: You know, in that vision I found it fascinating the Lord was holding something that was round, and what did it look like, a beach ball or something?

 

JAMES: Well I thought of an exercise ball that you have at the gym, and I thought well that’s odd because he’s not exercising. And I was just watching the Lord as he was holding onto this ball. And then as I focused more on the ball, because at that time I was looking at him, I saw that it wasn’t an exercise ball, it was actually Planet Earth, and the Lord was looking so intently. He was so focused on people on the earth. And the first thought I had was, you know, a lot of people would be uncomfortable with the idea because they don’t really want the Lord to look that closely into their life sometimes. Sometimes they like to slip back in the darkness so they can do a few of the things they don’t think would please the Lord. But the Lord said to me, he reads my thoughts, he said to me, “I’m not watching them closely to do them harm, I’m watching them closely to bless them and to give them purpose and destiny.” And then I began to almost like have telescopic vision, and I kind of zoomed in. And I saw a woman standing there holding the hand of Jesus, and it looked like she had been weeping maybe through the night, and she desperately reached out and took Jesus’ hand, and I heard the Lord say to her something he had been saying to me all morning: “Comfort, yes, comfort my people says the Lord.” And I believe the Lord wants to comfort people who are going through difficult times. And then I focused on some people who were worshiping, and their worship seemed so pure and it seemed so focused on the Lord, and the Lord was focusing on them as well. And I heard the same thing: “Comfort, yes, comfort my people.” I believe the Lord wants people to know that their worship, their praise is pleasing to him and he’s watching that, and it opens up doors of blessing and favor. And I just saw that the Lord wanted each and every person that he was looking at on Planet Earth to begin to see the awesome destiny he has for them.

 

SID: Does he have a destiny for, a unique fingerprint, just as our fingerprints are unique, does he have that unique a destiny for each person?

 

JAMES: Absolutely. And that’s one of the awesome things about the Lord that he’s able to do that for every single human being. Everyone who has flesh has the potential to get in that kind of relationship with the Lord and begin to see what that awesome destiny is and what God has destined you, created you to live in this time to accomplish this amazing purpose unique to you. And if I don’t do that, if I don’t open up and see that and I don’t do that, something is going to be missing in the Kingdom of God in this generation, because you and I have been uniquely equipped and created for that purpose, and we need to do that for the fullness of what God has planned for this generation.

 

SID: Talk to the person at home that says that’s okay for these superstars, but can I really know this. Talk to that person that’s saying, can I really know this.

 

JAMES: Well I see that all that time that people say well that may be something for famous people or people that we know, they’re gifted and have all of these special spiritual gifts, but what about me, can I do that? And I say absolutely yes. The Lord isn’t looking for superstars. He’s not looking for people that come to him fully equipped. He’s looking for people who are willing to see the awesome thing that he created them to do, and they’re willing to see it and then let him equip them and then lift them up to the fullness of the anointing he has. And it’s not about who you are. It’s about who he is. It’s not about what you’ve done. It’s about what he’s done. It’s about what he’s going to do in the future and he wants to do it through you. And just imagine the joy that you can have when you realize I fulfilled my purpose on Earth. I reached the destiny that God established for me from the foundation of the earth for this generation. You will have so much joy and you will have so much comfort from the Lord when you allow him to lead you into the fullness of your destiny in the Kingdom.

 

SID: And what would you say to the person that says, I knew what I was supposed to do and I didn’t do it? Is it too late?

 

JAMES: It’s never too late.

 

SID: All right, did you hear that? It is never too late. God said to Jeremiah, “Before you were conceived in your mother’s womb I knew you. I called you.” And I say to you, before you were conceived in your mother’s womb I knew you and I called you, and God said the best is yet to come.

 

JAMES: Amen.

SID: James says not only can everyone have their spiritual eyes activated, you have your natural eyes, but can see what’s going on in the invisible world, every one of your senses can be activated and it starts out with focus. Explain.

 

JAMES: Well I think we have focused too much on ourselves and our limitations. God wants us to focus on his promises, on his Word and begin to see how he plans for us to live and how he plans for us to be activated in this generation.

 

SID: One of the things you do to focus is he’ll take stories in the Bible, the miracles of Jesus, and you actually put yourself in that. Explain.

 

JAMES: Well I started reading. I noticed over and over in the Bible, I studied through the Bible three or four times a year and in detail, and I saw there were so many promises and so many things that were spoken over people, and I decided I want to claim those for myself. And I started reading it out loud because faith comes by hearing by the Word. I began to speak those things over myself. And after I did that for a while I began to really put faith behind that, and the faith was every promise in the Bible is for me and it’s for you, and God wants us to begin to grasp those promises and begin to live in the fullness of the Anointing as, for our purpose is awesome. Our destiny is great. And what God wants to release in spiritual gifts to us through our eyes open, our ears open, every other sense being open to the Kingdom, is for us to be able to do exactly what would be the very best thing for the Kingdom, and ultimately that’s the best thing for us and for other people.

 

SID: Can every person that is a believer in the Messiah looking at us right now, can they have every spiritual sense activated?

 

JAMES: Absolutely, I do. And I think God made a promise, I see it in the scriptures, all the way back in the Old Testament and repeated in the New Testament, that in the last days his spirit was going to come on all flesh, on men and women, on people who are older, people who are younger, every social status in the world. That his spirit will come on all flesh and when it does we’ll all be enabled to prophesy to see visions and to dream prophetic dreams. And so many people have never claimed the promise, and I started claiming the promise. And a lot of what I do on that card that I put my prayers on is I begin to pray and activate those things.

 

SID: You’ve been saying this for years.

 

JAMES: Yes, over and over myself until I believe that 100 percent in my heart. And that’s what I recommend to people. It began to claim those promises to say every promise in the Bible is for you.

 

SID: Most people, God starts in just a little way and they discard that little way. Explain that.

 

JAMES: Well we shouldn’t despise small beginnings. And sometimes the Lord only shows us some very small thing, some little thing. But instead of getting discouraged what I encourage people to do is to say, wow, God is beginning to do things in me and I began to rejoice, and began to give him thanks and praise for that because God responds to gratitude much more than he responds to grumbling. And so we don’t grumble about a small thing he’s doing in us, but we begin to do it to the best of our ability and thank him for enabling us and activating those gifts in us so that we’re able to do that. And right now, I’m feeling that God has something really special for people are watching this right now. I just have felt the presence and I’m feeling it right now of numerous healing angels that are manifesting here with us and they’re manifesting with you. And I know in the spiritual realm that if you need healing there’s a healing angel that just manifested for you. And right now, just we release the angels to minister what Father God sent them to minister, be healed in Jesus’ name. Whatever you need, that angel came for that purpose. And I feel right now that the love of the Father is just pouring out like standing under a waterfall and the blessing and favor of the Lord is pouring out over you right now. Receive it and believe it, and give thanks for it, and keep on thanking him and speaking it until it manifests. Amen.

 

SID: Now James, why is it the minute you spoke what you were feeling in the invisible world I felt a presence of God, zoom, like that. Why is that? I like to try to understand the invisible world.

 

JAMES: Well I think when we do what the Holy Spirit prompts us to do his power just manifests, and I felt that, too. And it almost felt like it’s coming up from the floor. It just felt like the power of God suddenly surrounded us. And the Spirit is so pleased when we follow his prompting that he just releases power. And I’m feeling it right now, it’s just like the Lord, the presence is getting stronger and stronger.

 

SID: I don’t know what he’s going to do when we come back, but I know he’s going to do something, and I know you’re going to be back.

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. If I was to ask you how many of you know for certain what your destiny is, what you’re supposed to be doing with your life, and I don’t care if you’re 70 years old or seven years old, here’s the truth, most of you would say I’m not sure. How many of you would like to be sure? You see, your destiny is like your fingerprint. No one that has ever lived has the same fingerprint like you have. You have a destiny. How many of you want to know for sure, for certain, what your destiny is? All right, you’re about ready to have it supernaturally unfolded. Now James Durham was a spirit-filled Army chaplain for 30 years. But I asked you last night, there was a specific time when you had your breakthrough in the supernatural because believe it or not, just because your spirit-filled doesn’t mean you’re really moving in the supernatural and all that God has available to you. Tell me what caused your breakthrough.

 

JAMES: Immediately after getting the baptism of the Holy Spirit in 1969, I began to have a lot of visions, words of knowledge, words of wisdom, and I operated in that a lot. But it was much later than that, I was in a revival and someone stood up and said, “I visited Heaven last night,” and described the visit. And I thought, hey, that sounds pretty cool. And that night, I went home. It was very, very late. I got back to my room. And as I was getting ready to get into bed I said, you know, it would be really neat to be able to have a visit in Heaven. That was the extent of my prayer for this to happen. I laid down on the bed and as soon as my head hit the bed, the pillow, I was standing in Heaven, standing before the throne of Jesus, and I was just completely awestruck. But as I looked at Jesus, I couldn’t think, I couldn’t speak, but I just fell in love. And something happened in my heart. It was like a transformation came to me when that happened. And from that time on it became a very regular thing to visit with the Lord in Heaven and very often to go to a training room where he was training me on how to activate some of the things that he was releasing to me. And he told me very clearly, “These are not just for you. I want these to be testimonies for other people so that they will also be activated in those things.”

 

SID: Now you had a vision recently and Jesus himself said that everyone has to hear this vision. Well I’m everyone. Tell me.

 

JAMES: Well it was a very, I guess it was kind of a startling vision, I would say, and I was suddenly lifted up into the presence of the Lord and I saw myself, it was like I was outside of myself looking at myself, and I was kneeling before the Lord with the left knee on the floor and my right on the floor, kind of like a knight kneeling before his king. And I was kneeling before Jesus, and I had this, what I call my cloak of humility. It’s a really, old worn out kind of brownish cover, and I really liked that, because you got to be humble before the Lord. And I was kneeling before him, worshiping the Lord. And suddenly the Lord said, “Hey, would you like to see how I see you?” Well I wasn’t sure because just like everyone else I began to think of past mistakes, things that I should have done that I didn’t do, and I wasn’t sure if I really wanted to see that. But if the Lord asks I’ve learned you say yes. So I said yes. And when I did, the Lord sort of stepped over to the left side and he had a rod in his hand, a staff, and he began to pull that cloak back slowly from the staff, and I was absolutely stunned at what I saw. When the cloak began to come off of me I was wearing a helmet and full armor like a knight in the Round Table. But the armor was gold and it was pure gold, and it was shining, and I realized it was the light of the Glory of Yeshua that was reflecting off of that armor. And has he pulled more and more back, I really got into kind of fear because I do not want to get into pride, because I think pride will block you from really encountering the Lord. And this, I thought if I keep seeing this I might get into pride.

 

SID: Proverbs says, “Pride comes before a fall.” I don’t want to fall.

 

JAMES: Be humble before the Lord and he will lift you up. So I actually asked the Lord, “Don’t show me anymore and to put the cloak back.” And the Lord did what I asked. And this was so startling, and I thought I can’t tell anyone this vision because it will sound to prideful. I didn’t even tell my wife that I had this experience. But then the Lord began to press on me that I needed to share this vision with other people because he wants other people to see how he sees them. He doesn’t see you for past mistakes, failures or whatever. He sees what you are created to be. He sees you as if you’ve already reached your destiny and accomplished your purpose for the Kingdom on Earth. That’s how he sees you right now. Right now he’s seeing you as someone who has already completed that and he wants you to understand that.

 

SID: Wait. If that’s true, my experience and I know your experience is, most people go their whole life and they say, well I’m not in the Bible ministry. I’m just supposed to be a parent, a spouse, make money and die. But you maintain that God has his fingerprint that is so unique, a destiny so unique. Why is it most people, if you ask them, do you really know your purpose, do you really know your destiny, and they’re honest, they usually say no?

 

JAMES: That’s been my experience. And I think that’s why the Lord wants to activate this in people right now, is we have been, unfortunately, we’ve been taught in the church that for a long time, didn’t see the possibilities, but they kind of focused on limitations. And a lot of things were taught that just really aren’t biblical. They’re not in accordance with what God intends for us, and as a result, many of us are filled with self-doubt. Some of us are into self-condemnation and we just can’t see or grasp how far the Lord wants us to go or how high he wants to elevate us to his anointing. But in this season, because we’re in these last days and because it’s a time for the End Time harvest, I believe, that everybody who is a believer and is spirit-filled needs to be activated to accomplish their purpose for the Kingdom. God chose you to live in this generation for his purpose.

 

SID: And I’ll tell you what, I wouldn’t want to live in any other generation. This is the generation of the wrap-up. Why would you want to live in any other generation than this? And everyone counts. Everyone must fulfill their destiny. And according to James and according to the Bible, God wants to activate your spiritual senses, your sealed gifting, and I want to find some practical ways on how you can do it. Be right back.