It's Supernatural

JOSHUA: He took me in the spirit by my neck. I remember he took me out and dropped me in a scenario. I knew that there was a witch on the other side, but I was on fire and I said, “What are you doing here?” They responded, “You know why I’m here.” The moment I heard their voice, because it sounded very scary. I did that. Just that little inkling was fear. It only took a little dot and immediately I lost the fire of the Holy Spirit. I was like, “Oh my gosh, I feel like naked. How do I fight this?”

God’s hand began to push me to encounter. I was screaming and claw and I didn’t want to do it. Brought me back to my body. When I woke up, he says, “You need to understand, you must engage and destroy. Never fear, never flee the enemy. Only the wicked flee when no one pursuing them, but the righteous are as bold as a lion.”

I took a whole new perspective of when something is placed in front of me. I don’t even think about it at charge it. The moment you catch the revelation of pursuing him, he is terrified because he’s like, “Oh my goodness, this one knows now.”

SID: You talk a great deal about ascending the mountain. Briefly explain that.

JOSHUA: Yes. I know that God wants to take his people into encounters with him. It’s not just for the super believer or the man or woman on the pulpit or the preacher. It’s for every believer. The veil was torn for a reason. We are granted access into the Holy of Holies . When we begin to press into God’s presence and we begin to say, “God, change my heart, change…

SID: Excuse me. I know God showed you the secrets of ascending the mountain. You use a term a lot of believers use, press in. What does that mean?

JOSHUA: Very, very simplistic terms. To press in literally I take my heart because it is the key to everything. We search the scripture, we see that God is more focused on your heart than anything. I knew that I needed to press in. I’m like, “What does that look like, God?” He says, “Push your heart toward me.” I’m like, “Well, that’s simple.” He says, “Yeah, it’s simple.”

Every time I pray, I worship, whether I’m fasting, reading the word, I am in pursuit and pushing into him. When you practice his presence, it becomes easier to step in. It becomes a lot more tangible. You see that it’s easier to get out of the flesh so that you can walk in the spirit.

SID: There are so many secrets. We don’t have time for you to share them all. Joshua has a gift to prophetically tell you, your spiritual DNA. Better yet, he teaches you how to find out from God, for yourself. Be right back.

JERAME: 7:00, went onstage, opened up the meeting for the worship and as soon as I got done, I walked to the pastor that helped organize and I said, thank God I found the secret entrance in the back. We got through all the traffic.” He said to me, there’s no secret entrance, he opened the back doors and it was nothing but woods. We got supernaturally transported and what God told me was this, he said, “Son,” he said, “I’ll move heaven and earth to get you to the right place at the right time.”

SID: There wasn’t even a road there. It was just woods.

JERAME: Yep, we were supernaturally transported right to the meeting. Here’s the deal, Jesus wants to activate you in the supernatural. He wants to activate you in the presence. Then I want to talk to you about the greatest key and that’s the key of intimacy in his presence.

Every single day I pray a prayer. Before I read the word of God, before I spend time with God, it’s out of Ephesians chapter 1:17-19. Here’s what happened is, Paul prayed for the church of Ephesus to receive the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of God, the Father. Then it says that he prayed that the eyes of their heart would be enlightened, that they would know the hope of Jesus, and they would know their inheritance in him.

Every single day, when I pray, I pray that prayer, “Lord, I ask you to open the eyes of my heart, that I would see your word the way you see it. I ask you to open the eyes of my spirit, that I would see people the way you see things.” When I do that, it’s opened up the realm of hearing his voice with clarity.

SID: I want you to pray over everyone for spiritual hunger and for the fire and the glory.

JERAME: Father, I just thank you for those that are watching right now and Lord, I pray you’d fill their homes with your presence, God. Lord, we do, we release the fire and the glory of God. We ask, God, that you would activate people to see, to hear, to know you more. That father you’d open the heavens over their lives and over their families. Yeah, Lord, we thank you right now for those that are watching this program and we ask God that you would release the fire and the glory of your presence and father.

I thank you Lord, for a tangible anointing that opens the heavens God, over every single person’s lives, that Lord, people will begin to hear from heaven, that people will begin to see in the spirit, that Lord, that anointing of revival that we are carrying at Fire and Glory would be imparted and activated now. Father, I thank you Lord right now and I pray that you would release an insatiable hunger to your people, God.

That Lord, they would seek your heart, they would seek your face and Lord, I pray right now that you’d release the anointing of Fire and Glory, that God you’d open up the heavens over people’s lives. Lord, right now we release an activation to encounter your love and to walk intimately with you in the spirit in Jesus’ name.

DONNA: Yes. VIDEO: KATHRYN KUHLMAN: these I receive.

LARRY: More than miracles. VIDEO: KATHRYN KUHLMAN: that Thou hast given unto me.

LARRY: I want to see people their needs responded to by God.

DONNA: Absolutely.

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: The other thing.

DONNA: that I see, and you know, we have become such a generation of victims.

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: You know, we play the victim card so many times. We talk about our pain, our sadness, what the devil’s doing.

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: to beat us up and, you know, how can God work in that situation? One of the disciplines that my dad always practiced was a confession of praise.

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: He was a man of worship. In fact, the day he died.

LARRY: Mm.

DONNA: for 2 hours, he was singing praises to the Lord.

LARRY: Mm!

DONNA: It was his LIFESTYLE! When he was sick in his body, he never said, I’m sick. He never talked about pain; but he always talked about Jesus has always been my Great Physician.

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: and He’s going to continue to be my Great Physician.

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: So I believe that’s another discipline.

LARRY: Yes.

DONNA: that we LEARN, by giving our LIPS over to God.

LARRY: Yes.

DONNA: and begin to confess that Jesus is Lord of every situation; He’s bringing me out. I’m the head and not the tail; I’m above, and not beneath.

LARRY: But it’s funny because people will sometimes hear us talk that way, and they’ll and they’ll say something like, Well you’re denying reality!, or You’re denying the situation or circumstance. It’s like no; nobody is denying anything; we’re MAGNIFYING the One Who is ABOVE the circumstance.

DONNA: Well and.

LARRY:  I mean that’s exactly it.

DONNA: and there is! There are two places that we can live. The Bible says that we can live in the flesh.

LARRY: Yes.

DONNA: and we can live in the spiritual realm.

LARRY: Yes.

DONNA: But, The flesh wars against.

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: the spirit. So we have to make a choice everyday: Am I going to allow the Holy Spirit to guide what comes out of my mouth? 

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: Or am I going to be drawn to the flesh.

LARRY: Yeah

DONNA: which will keep me in that level that level of pain, depression, circumstance? But whereas the Spirit wants to lift us above that and see with different eyes.

LARRY: Yeah; yeah. Well I mean those are just fantastic points that Donna has just shared. Just to r-review, number one: Cultivate a lifestyle in the Word of God, because that makes you aware: Every promise of the Word of God reminds you of the One His name is Holy Spirit Who lives inside of you. I believe the Word of God wants to make you more aware of the God Who lives inside of you, and Who wants to USE you for mighty acts. Number two, be moved with compassion. I believe the Spirit of God specifically, today in this program, through DONNA, was talking about if you want to see miracles, you want to see captives free, bodies healed, situations reversed and turned around, I believe it all begins with compassion. God wants to actually move YOU into impossible situations, where people are dealing with impossible situations.

DONNA: Amen.

JOHN: Imagine if you were outside the Hermitage Museum, and there in the dumpster, in a trash dumpster, you see this masterpiece. But it’s covered in mud. It’s stained. Its torn.

DONNA: Uh-huh.

JOHN: Would you treat it like mud? You know? Would you treat it like trash? Or would we be able to realize, No. This is still worth millions of dollars –

DONNA: Beyond the mud.

JOHN: Underneath the mud.

DONNA: Yes.

JOHN: And we need to gently take it to a master who can restore it to its original value.

DONNA: Aww. Yeah.

JOHN: I think the reality is, we all could see the masterpiece under the mud in that painting.

DONNA: Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

JOHN: So the question is, can we see the masterpiece under the mud in every person?

DONNA: Yeah.

JOHN: Created in the image of God for good things. You know, Ephesians 2:8-10 says, For it was by grace that we’ve been saved (set right with God) through faith; its a gift from God. And then it goes on in verse 10 and says, For we are Gods masterpiece.

DONNA: Yes.

JOHN: His work of art. And that was true. He saw that in us when He died for us, you know, thousands of years ago, so He must see it in those who have not yet come to faith. So the question is, can we see that masterpiece, or do we just see the mud?

DONNA: Ooh.

JOHN: I’m convinced Jesus saw the masterpiece and called that out in people. Whereas the Pharisees just saw the mud, and that affected the way people responded.

DONNA: Right. And that’s what you teach about restoring value.

JOHN: Exactly.

DONNA: You teach your folks about restoring value. What if the masterpiece no longer felt like a masterpiece, because of all the mud?

JOHN: Well

DONNA: Of all the things that people could not see, the potential of what it really was. I mean, how does that affect the people themselves?

JOHN: Absolutely. And I think that’s what keeps people running from God rather than turning to Him. And, of course, the evil blinds us and makes us think that you know, Gods against us and out to condemn us. And until you can get your act together you can’t turn to Him. But, of course, then we stay stuck. It’s only in turning to Him, that He’s the one who restores us.

DONNA: Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

JOHN: It’s by His Spirit that we’re restored. And you see this in Jesus, like Luke chapter 7. Remember Jesus is invited by Simon the Pharisee into his home. Right?

DONNA: Yes.

JOHN: You know, Simon was actually there to judge Jesus.

DONNA: Uh-huh

JOHN: This immoral woman comes in, and, I mean, Luke mentions shes known for her immorality. You know? So her sexual sin, her mud is known in the town.

DONNA: Right. Seen very clearly.

JOHN: Seen very clearly. And, you know, she breaks down crying, I think because she had heard Jesus is there. There is hope for people like me.

DSC: Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

JOHN: Somehow her friends told her, and she would go into this Pharisees home, the people who condemn her because there’s hope. She starts to cry. She wipes Jesus feet with her hair. She anoints His feet with oil. And Simon looks with contempt in his eyes, and says, If Jesus were really from God if He were really a prophet, He would know what kind of woman this is.

DONNA: Oh. Oh. Yeah.

DAVID: So he was so tired and disappointed. He’s saying, “O God, is it your will?” But instead of asking God if it’s Your will, God is saying why don’t you go to My will which is My Word? 

RYAN: Right.

DAVID: And when you go it says, Matthew 8:17, Jesus said, “I died for your sickness and disease.” 1st Peter 2:24. “I bore your curse!” Psalm 103, verse 2 and 3, He says, that “Forget not My benefits.” So instead of wondering if it’s Your will, go to My Word. When you read His Word all it says is “I heal, I heal, I heal! I love you! I heal you!”      

RYAN: But a lot of people I think still have like, and it could be a rejection issue, an insecurity issue, but will He heal ME?

DAVID: Yes!

RYAN: So how do you, how do – I mean they’re sincere about it.

DAVID: Yes.

RYAN: Will He heal ME?

DAVID: Yes!

RYAN: And there’s a lot of people that watch this show, that have been believing God for years for their healing.

DAVID: Yes.

RYAN: What would you say to those people? They’ve been believing God for decades.

DAVID: Yeah.

RYAN: And they’re still not healed.

DAVID: Well God – there is timing in everything. You know we see in John 5 there was a man 38 years he was a lame man.

RYAN: Right.

DAVID: So he laid there. So sometimes it’s God’s timing. Sometimes Gods has provided the healing and we haven’t figured out how to walk into it! For example, it may be a spiritual problem. So we’re praying, “God, heal me, heal me, heal me!” But God never said beg Me to heal you. He said, “I’ve given you all authority in heaven on earth! Heal the sick!” So, for example, the Holy Spirit will speak to me and say, “They have a serpent spirit or an unclean spirit or a spirit of infirmity.” If you don’t call that spirit out directly that person could be begging for prayer for years and they’ll pray and pray and nothing will happen! So it’s – you know that’s why Hosea 4:6 it says, “My people perish for lack of knowledge.” What I’ll tell people is it’s like your television. You have a signal coming into your house even if the TV is off. But that doesn’t mean there’s no signal!

RYAN: Right.

DAVID: You have to turn the TV on! Many times we haven’t learned how to turn on the TV so the signal for healing already came from the foundations of the world when Jesus died on the cross! 

RYAN: Absolutely!

DAVID: So it’s been provided for. We haven’t figured out how to turn it on so what we have to do is learn how to step into that healing which is something we can go into.

RYAN: So are you saying that there are things that are kinda outside the realm of what we’re seeing right before us that we need to address so the healing breakthrough comes?

DAVID: 100%!

RYAN: Okay. 

DAVID: 100%!

RYAN: So how does somebody watching begin to discern that it’s I know I need my healing and I’ve asked the Lord and I love Him with all my heart. I’ve been quoting the scriptures for 10 years but I’m still not – what should they be doing? How do they discern what’s the “other” that they’re not seeing?

DAVID: Well the CD’s we’re gonna have this week.

RYAN: Hah-hah!

DAVID: They should listen to that because it’s about a – that’s about a two-hour answer right there.

RYAN: Yeah, right.