It's Supernatural

SID: Now Becky, does the body have to fall apart just because they’re getting older.

BECKY: No they don’t. Yes, we’re going to get older. We’re not going to stop that. But we don’t have to get old and decrepit, and crippled, and lose our memories, and everything. We don’t have to do that. The Bible tells us that “Those that wait upon the Lord will renew their strength. They will mount up with wings like eagles. They will run and they will not be weary. They will walk and they will not faint.” And I choose to believe. It’s my choice. I choose to believe that God will keep me from falling apart if I will do what his word tells me to do.

SID: Well I’ll tell you what, I’m on your team.

BECKY: Amen.

SID: Now I am fascinated with this 11-year-old boy that did not walk normal. He walked on all fours.

BECKY: Yes. There was a boy and his name was Separoni [sp] and this was in the Maasai land in northern Tanzania. One of the evangelists came up and asked us would we go to his village because there was this boy who could not walk. Something was very wrong with him and would we take the time. We were all really, really tired, but I’ve learned if you will listen to God and his invitation like that you’re in for a real blessing. And so I looked at him, and I said, “Of course we’ll go.” So they drove us up in the bush and we got out of there, and the sun was setting, and you can feel an evil presence when you got out of that vehicle. And then out of the corner of my eye I saw this boy. He was an 11-year-old boy and he crawled on all fours. He did everything like an animal did. As soon as I reached out and touched the boy he just started rolling and thrashing. And I said, “Holy Spirit, what happened to his boy? Show me.” And so I closed my eyes because I’m a seer. I closed my eyes and the Lord started taking me down this pathway. We went through a field and I started with an interpreter asking him, did this happen, did this happen, and he would stop rolling around, and he’s say, “Dee,” which meant yes. And we came, in this vision I came up to a wooden hut. Now they’re not wooden. They’re made out of cow dung and all of that. So a wooden hut was somebody more prosperous like a witch doctor. And I saw my hand on this door and my hand went to push the door open, and I heard, and I felt the Holy Spirit whisper in my ear, “Secret things.” And so I pushed the door open and I saw this boy all wrapped up in black and he was all tied up. And I knew that he had suffered great abuse under the witch doctor and these warriors that were following me and mocking me. And I asked the boy through the interpreter, did this happen, and he said yes. He kept saying yes, yes, but he kept rolling around. So we go lay hands on this boy. There was something wrong with him, but it was trying to kill him, is what it was trying to do, and it was manifesting in that manner. And so I renounced the spirit of death and I released the power of the Holy Spirit into this boy, and I said, “In Jesus’ name, you will walk in Jesus’ name.” But you know, it doesn’t matter how desperate the situation is, God is able and he’s willing. And he looked at us through the interpreter and said, “I am so tired. I need to sleep.” And all the pastors are going, oh, and I said, “Don’t worry about it. God will complete what he started here.” So I said, “Put him on the chair.” So he went on the chair. And we have to go and minister for three hours someplace else. And when came back, everything is gated because of the lions and everything out there. And so we pulled up in the safari vehicle and we’re on a hill so we could see over the fence, and I was sitting in the front and I said, “Who is that? Who is that?” And everybody is trying to figure out who it is. And all of a sudden I was like, “Oh my, that’s him!” And I jumped out of the car like in the movies and we went running to each other, and jumping up and down. And that boy said this: when we laid hands on him he became so tired he had to go to sleep. He went into a deep sleep and then he woke up a few hours later, and just got out of the chair and walked.

SID: Okay. I’m going to tell you something. In this whole time God has been speaking to me about people that are being healed of so many conditions. I’m telling you that it’s no longer when God, no longer, you see it happened, past tense. Two thousand years ago, by his stripes you were healed.

BECKY: Absolutely.

SID: And anyone with a back problem, even studio audience, neck problem, you just stand up and bend over. You move your head like this then all pains are gone in your body in Jesus’ name. When Jesus said, on the cross, “It is finished,” in the original language this is what it meant: Paid in full.

BECKY: Amen.

SID: Becky was telling me about a healing where a woman is almost ready to give up. She was crying really from her heart, from her mouth, “When God, when are you going to heal me?” Tell me about that.

BECKY: We were in a place called Copán, Guatemala, it’s over by the Caribbean side of Guatemala, and we were holding a healing conference or crusade outdoors, and all these people came from all over. We must have had like 2000 people or so out there. And I had taught them about the redemptive blood of Jesus and what he did for them so they could be healed. And they lead me down these steps, and right in front of me is a woman sitting in a wheelchair. I don’t remember how long she had been there, but it had been years. And she was married, and she was bitter, and she was angry at everybody, her husband, everybody, and she was just plain nasty in her response to everybody. But who she was really mad at was God because everybody told her this was from God. And so she thought that God was withholding her healing. She was in a wheelchair. She had some kind of accident and from the waist down she was paralyzed. And I got there, and I went to go lay my hand on her, and there’s mics and everything. And all of a sudden this woman screams out and she cries out, “When, God, when!” I mean, as loud as she could and it stopped everything. And so I got down on my knees in front of the woman so she could look me in the eye. And I said, “Number one, this is not of God. Number two, this is of Satan. Number three, don’t worry because I know I have authority over him and his wicked works. Number four, by the time this meeting ends you are going to walk out of here on your own.” And I laid my hand on her, and she let out this big scream, and went out on the power of the Holy Spirit.

SID: Excuse me. When you said that to her, did you have a vision, did you have a word from God or was that just raw faith speaking?

BECKY: It was raw faith and I know that he will show himself strong because he loves those people. It was glorious. I mean, the presence of God just went through that place and the people were healed astoundingly. And that woman in the wheelchair, when she came up, when she woke up from the power of the Holy Spirit, she got up and she walked out of that place on her own.

SID: You know, because of that studious studying, because of fasting three times for 40 days in one year, you got revelation from God that any believer can operate under. Share one gem. You said the first thing that God was teaching you was authority, but you had a teaching for me from the Book of Genesis, Chapter 1, Verse 28, on authority. Explain that.

BECKY: God gave me a vision and I saw a gigantic microscope, and he’s asking me, he’s saying, “What on the plate of glass?” And before I could even think of answering him, he said, “It’s sickness and disease.” “What is it doing?” And before I could answer him, he’s giving me the answer. He’s saying, “It’s moving. We have been given dominion over everything that moves on this earth.” And he says, “That includes sickness and disease.”

SID: You know, Becky, one of the things that I’m really intrigued is we hear about lots of creeds and the dictionary definition of a creed is an authoritative statement of beliefs and principles which guide the actions of a person or group. Why did you write out a biblical creed on healing?

BECKY: Well I had been teaching my kids. I also home school my kids. I had been home schooling. We were doing world history and we were studying the Apostle’s Creed. And so we were learning it and everything, and I heard the voice of God say to me, “You need to write a creed about healing. You need to write a healing creed,” he said, “because my people no longer are being taught about healing. They are sick and dying before their appointed time. They are suffering and they do not understand that it is my will to heal them.” He said, “You write a healing creed.” And so I did.

SID: I want you to give an example of operating in the healing creed. This is amazing about this woman who had the broken feet and thyroid.

BECKY: There was a woman in Harrisonburg, Virginia and she came, and she heard the teachings that I teach in the healing creed, and her faith arose within her. Now this woman had numerous issues that needed healing. She had worked in a meat factory and she dropped a large package of frozen meat on her feet and it broke her bones in her feet, and that was very painful for her. She also had a thyroid condition, a thyroid problem. She had a lump and she had all kinds of issues because of that. And then she also had a bad heart. She had some type of a heart disease, and the doctors told her that she would have a heart attack. When she got the revelation of that message her faith arose and she came forward. And I laid hands on her, and that night the healing took place in her body. When she woke up she realized her feet no longer hurt. They had been healed. She was going up and down the steps because she was so excited.

SID: Of course.

BECKY: And she realized the lump was gone. She went and weighed herself. She lost four pounds overnight. While she’s sleeping, this whole healing is taking place. And she’s running up and down the steps. She’s so excited and she realizes, I’m running up and down the steps. That’s something she was not able to do because she was so out of breath all the time and she never had an issue with breathing or with her heart rate, or anything again. That’s what happens.

SID: I love this healing creed. Listen to this. Becky says to me, just because you get older, just because you have grey hair doesn’t mean you have to have pains in your body, sickness, disease. God has something better for you. We’ll talk about it when we come back.

SID: Okay. Now I know you guys are on the edge of your seat. I want to know what God himself said is the most supernatural prayer on Earth.

CLEDDIE: I believe the most supernatural prayer on Earth is Our Father who art in Heaven hallowed be thy name, thy Kingdom come, they will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven. Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses, our sins, our debts as we forgive those who trespass against us. Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For thine is the Kingdom and the power, and the Glory forever. Sid, I believe that is a supernatural prayer. Anything that is not supernatural is superficial, and I believe Jesus when he was apart from his boys, the disciples, I believe this is what he was praying. I believe when he got up in the morning he was praying the prayer that he told them, “When you pray, pray like this.”

SID: But you know, when I hear this prayer like in a congregation it’s part of the ritual. It doesn’t have impact. It doesn’t have meaning. What does it have to you?

CLEDDIE: Oh it has meaning because it’s the prayer that changed my life. Number one, I began to pray this prayer because we were believing God to do something in a certain city, in Houston, Texas, in the east end, in the second ward. And we began to pray every day, and I would pray, “Thy Kingdom come” understanding that he was my Father and approaching him like “hallowed be thy name” and praying in his name. I knew that, but I had never prayed, “Thy Kingdom come.” Actually in Greek, and you know this, it means you one stomp foot, you stomp the other foot and you say, “Come thy Kingdom.”

SID: You know what, I didn’t know that until I heard what you taught on that. In other words, now do you really do that when you pray? You stomp one foot, you hear that, and he stomps another, and that’s what it means in the Greek. That’s very different than the ritualistic, “Our Father”. How do you pray it?

CLEDDIE: I pray it, “Come thy Kingdom, be done thy will.” I literally pray that way. I do it before great crowds of people. I do it in small groups. I get the people to pray like that. It’s a command. And he says, “Pray with the fire of desire.” It was an intense prayer. I was praying with tears. Jesus said this to the disciples said to him, “Teach us to pray like you pray.” Well we know in Hebrews it said that, “With strong cryings and tears he prayed.” With strong cryings and tears. I’m telling you there was a lot of times I prayed with tears and there were tears of unbelief. You could have floated in a battleship with them. But when I began to pray, “Come thy Kingdom, be done thy will,” and it was with earnest and some urgency, and the fire of desire, things began to happen. Miracles began to take place.

SID: Okay. You’re driving with your wife in Houston and you began, but you were praying “Thy Kingdom come.” Tell me exactly what you were praying.

CLEDDIE: I was praying, “Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done.” And what happened was my wife said, “Somebody needs to work with the young people in Houston.” This was back in the Vietnam War. I didn’t know exactly what was going on. We were going past a school one night and I just looked over to the school, and I said, will God give me that school. I meant give me a breakthrough-where-I-can-minister-to-the-young building. I didn’t want the building. It was all torn down, beaten up. It looked like something out of the 1930s, which it was, and it was a junior high school. And God gave us that school. In the next 48 days, we probably had a thousand young people come to Christ in that school because of the miracle that day. In that school, they had guys that were selling drugs, running drugs. There were mules, they would tie dope to them, send the Miami kids that were 12 and 13 years old to take drugs over to Miami for the cartels at that time. And then they had prostitution rings in a junior high school. And we would take hands full of dope and lay it down on the principal’s desk. I was a young man then. I’m telling you right now, it’s just as fresh today as it was then because when I started praying that prayer I saw the power. You know, a lot of people think that prayer is boring. I’m telling you it’s the most exciting. If they want some romance back in their Christian experience, if you will pray this prayer, God will transform your life: Come thy Kingdom in my home. Come thy Kingdom in my business. God can turn your business around. “Come they Kingdom in the ministry that I’m a part of. In the church, when we pray that way we’re praying an alliance, we’re praying in allegiance and accordance with God’s Word.

SID: You had a place, I think you called it the Salt Inn.

CLEDDIE: Well it came out of that prayer. It came out of that prayer.

SID: And there were times that people wanted to destroy that building. But tell me about that big angel.

CLEDDIE: Well what happened, we prayed that. We needed a place because we grew out of the church with the youth. And about four blocks from the church a lady gave us a large house with a three-car garage and an apartment over it, and a duplex. So we had a complex where we could work with the young people. It was like a mini church there. And the kids would come. We’d have 250, 300 kids at night sometimes packed into that house. And what took place is the drug addicts in the area began to be aware of what was going on there.

SID: So they want to stop it.

CLEDDIE: Yes. And one guy came up, he was going to rob the place, and when he was getting ready to go into the back door, a large angel stood before the door and stopped him in his tracks. He saw the angel. He ran with fear from the place and he went and told every drug addict he knew in the east end of Houston, don’t you go near that place.

SID: Now that’s my kind of favor. When we come back, and this, I have to tell you, Cleddie, this is hard for me to fathom, but they developed a prayer, it was a 30-second prayer. In fact, I’ll tell you its name: Snap. And at the end of 30 seconds people that were high on drugs and alcohol, and addicted were set free. I want to have him teach you that prayer. Be right back.

Sid: My guest by way of telephone is Mary Jo Clouse I’m speaking to her at her home in Lake Mary, Florida about her new book called “Getting Free.” Mary Jo was a Christian and yet sickness kept just plaguing her and plaguing her and through a series of being taught by the Holy Spirit she found out from life experience and the word of God about generational curses and she’s been able to teach others about this and their lives have been transformed about this and their lives have been transformed.  And the thing that I like about her book is that it’s done in such a simplistic fashion. And you don’t need someone to help you with it you just read the book and you break the curses. In fact on yesterday’s broadcast Mary Jo we were talking about the sources of curses and perhaps we’ll continue on that.

Mary Jo: Okay there’s a scripture in Proverbs 26:2 that says “Like a flitting sparrow and like a flying swallow is a curse without a cause will not light.”  In other words a curse without a cause cannot come into my life.  So the number l thing I would say would begin to recognize that there is a curse. Like we talked about the money situation if there’s enough money coming into meet the needs and yet you still are not making headway in your life then there’s a curse on your finances. And that curse can even been put on your finances through word curses. You might have left a job a good job and got a better job and that boss that you were working for didn’t really want you to leave said “Well you will never prosper if you leave this company.”  Now if that’s happen to you it’s very simple you just say “Lord I forgive that person for speaking that word curse over me and I break that word curse the poverty over my family and I lose the blessings of the Lord Jesus Christ.”  Some things that are very simple that we don’t do because we’ve never been taught or we don’t even think about it. But some of you maybe have left a church or left and that pastor said to you “If you leave this church you’ll never prosper you’ll never amount to anything” and you’re out there struggling and God says “Forgive that pastor because bitterness and unforgiveness will bind you up and keep you from all of the blessings that God would have in your life.

Sid: You have to do something more than forgive though you forgive and then you break that curse?

Mary Jo: I forgive and then I just very simply say “I break that curse that authority curse that was put over my life” and realize that Jesus Christ is the ultimate authority in your life and once you’ve forgiven that person and realized and you break that curse you’re released from it, it’s not that hard.

Sid: That’s what I love about your teaching its very simplistic but I mean it makes all of the difference in being able to receive the blessings or not. Whether its blessings of physical healings or blessings in marriage or with children or with relationships.  Let’s talk about some more reasons for curses.

Mary Jo: Let me tell you it’s just like when my husband and I first got saved we used to laugh and say “We were both the negative if you put us out in the sunlight we would develop.  And so we started just saturating our self in the word and we had struggles financially when we first got married and yet we made plenty of money.  And we realized that he had come from a part of the country that said “We are proud but we’re poor.”  You know “We may be poor but we have our pride.”  So if there’s pride in your life repent of being proud of who you are and repent and ask God to forgive you of pride in your family and ancestral back that you have all been poor but you had your pride.  And when we did that the blessings of God just seemed to come and overtake us. And I just love it. Another thing that will bring one indication of a curse would be a mental or emotional breakdown and repeated or chronic sicknesses is what I’m talking about.  I’m not talking about we all get headaches or something like that but if it’s a repeated or a chronic sickness and there’s no cure that medical diagnosis then you will know from that that will indicate to you that there is a curse in your life and you go back and say “Well what caused the curse?” Have I been involved in the occult, do I have bitterness and unforgiveness toward someone?

Sid: Is it possible to have a curse say someone curses you that’s perhaps in witchcraft or even someone that’s supposedly a Christian curses you and you don’t know that this is going on?

Mary Jo: I think so I know I that it can happen because that’s what we talk a lot about the controlling spirits the manipulating spirits. And a lot of people that are Christians have that they are control and manipulating spirits those are not God. We’re only supposed to be controlled by the Holy Spirit and yet you can have an occult spirit come against you like a witchdoctor or something like that. A lot of people that goes overseas and minister and have come back home and found out that there was something wrong and did you not know where this came from and later realized that a curse had been put on them because they had walked into a territory that did not want them there.  Did not want the blood of Jesus Christ applied in their life.

Sid: So if that was you you went to another country and you came back you see that there’s a problem that you think that there’s some sort of curses result of it what would you do?

Mary Jo: First of I’d ask myself did I bring any object from that country did I bring back a souvenir.  And what did that souvenir and did it have a curse on it and even if I didn’t know I would probably get rid of it because I had it when I had gone overseas and picked up a little bird that I thought was a such a cute little carved bird and every time I’d go by that bird I would think you know I don’t feel comfortable about this there is something in here that makes me feel uncomfortable and the Lord would say “Get rid of it.” But I would say but that is the only souvenir that I have for that country you know.  And what had happened this young girl had come up and said “Come pretty lady come down and by some stuff from me.”  So I went and I  bought the bird and one day as I was dusting I walked past that bird and I went and I started having pains in my chest and I thought “Oh my goodness Lord Jesus what’s wrong with me.”  And I thought “I’ve been telling you to get rid of that it has a curse on it you know you bought it from a country to where they practice all sorts of witchcraft. You bought it from somebody who practices witchcraft,” and so I got rid of it and the pain went away.

Sid:  And I know of another girl that I was ministering to that was having problems with her prosperity and she had been to Greece and she had brought back what they call a good luck rock and she had that in her home and we went to visit her house. And we went for the express purpose of praying through the home cleansing the home. And when I saw this I had a real funny feeling about it but you know if you don’t want to go on a witch hunt every time you go into somebody’s home that’s where discerning of spirits a little wisdom and a little knowledge from God helps a whole lot so that you’re not always offending people. So I didn’t say anything about it I just prayed and I said “God if there is anything wrong with that rock you reveal it to her and when you reveal it to her she’ll accept it.  I asked her several questions I tried to lead her into it and that didn’t make any…she didn’t realize that was what I was talking about.  So about 3 weeks later we was teaching and she held up her hand and she “You know I realized that I probably have an object in my home that is keeping me from prospering.”  And she had a job as an accountant earlier in earlier years and yet she could not get a good job. So she brought the object in we demolished it threw it away and about 2 weeks later she went to work making 3 times as much money as she was making before she had that cursed object in her house.

Sid:  Now okay lets supposed it’s a cursed object let suppose it’s a verbal curse by a witch or someone like that. How do you break it?

Mary Jo: Okay you go through the house…I’ll tell you an incidence where a person recently that happened to them that had an encounter with this person and they were having a disturbance in the service and we had asked them to leave and they would not leave.  And so the lady that had encountered her had started having a lot of pains in her back and she realized that it was probably a curse that this person was putting on her. So we went through the house and we anointed the house with oil and we pled the blood of Jesus Christ.  We prayed over the lady and we broke every witchcraft curse that had been put on her and pled the blood of Jesus and commanded the curse to be removed through the name and the blood of Christ. And she was set free and the nightmares and the funny feeling she had when she went into her house and the pain in her back left.

Sid: You read a scripture at the beginning of the broadcast. A curse there is a cause for every curse.

Mary Jo: Right.

Sid: Let’s go back to examples of things that can open doors for curses some other areas.

Mary Jo: I think I already covered worshipping false Gods, dishonoring your parents, illicit and unnatural sex. And I talked about abortion and injustice for the weak and the helpless.  One of the indications of a curse of course I talked about the breakdown of finances the breakdown of your marriage. Being accident prone sometimes we have accidents and we just think we’re clumsy and klutzy.  If that person is clumsy and klutzy I can grant you that back when they were just learning to just walk and stand on their feet someone in their family just said “Well look at them they’re such a klutz they’re always falling. They got two left feet they can’t…” in other words that is a word curse put on somebody by an authority figure. My daughter for instance she used to every time before we would go on vacation she’d go out in the yard strap bare footed and we had clover in our yard and she’d get a bee sting.  Well of course we had reinforced that with our words because we’d say Karen be real careful when you go out in the yard to play because we’re getting ready to go to grandma’s house and we want you to be able to wear your shoes and to look pretty. And she’d go out and get stung by a bee (laughing) and then we’d have to carry her around when we went on vacation because she couldn’t wear her shoes or she’d be limping around.  And I one day read the scripture where it says that He gives ministering angels charge over us to watch us in all of our way.  So I’d been putting more curses on her but last year she went out to play and I said “You know Lord I just disburse ministering angels around my daughter to watch her in all of her ways and to guard over her and to keep her. Because she had like at that time she had 3 broken bones and when I started stationing ministering angels around her and cleaned up the way I talked about her she’s going to fall be careful you’re going to fall and break your arm when I quit doing that she never had another broken arm…

Sid: Woop we’re out of time…

Sid:  My guest by way of telephone is Nita Johnson. On yesterday’s broadcast we found out that Nita from a young age, 9 years of age, started having visitations to the throne room of God and seeing the Last Day judgments in America. But recently one of the warnings God that said was the last judgment was going to be war. She received a mandate that unless we pray there will be war on our shores in the very near future. In particular the sin of anti-Semitism… for those that aren’t familiar would you tell me a little bit of the history of this nation, say in particular during World War II in reference to anti-Semitism.

Nita:  In 1935 this is the general mindset of America, there were few white collar jobs available to choose, no top positions in universities, a Jew could not hold any kind of top position in universities. Jewish people could not work in most of our hospitals either as nurses or doctors. Even many blue collared jobs were barred from the Jewish people. For instance if a secretary was discovered to have Jewish family, Jewish bloodline, she could very probably lose her job because of her Jewishness. They were not allowed to join country clubs, they were barred from the elite restaurants across the nation. When I say barred signs were put out in front of the restaurants “No Jews Allowed.” So they were barred from our more elite restaurants.

Sid:  In my lifetime I remember I was raised in Washington D.C. and I remember going to a beach and I couldn’t get over the fact that there was a sign that said “No blacks, or Jews, or dogs allowed.”

Nita:  That’s very sad isn’t it?

Sid:  So those that are thinking “Wait a second, not in the United States of America.” Go on Nita.

Nita:  Yes that was prominent. There was a survey conducted back in 1935 and in that survey they found that 53% of the American public saw Jews as the most troublesome people group in the world. 83% opposed admission of Jewish people in larger numbers as immigrants. So America was very very strongly anti-Semitic. That anti-Semitic spirit came to America from Europe when our ancestors came here from Europe. The common rhetoric of the hour was “Jews want to take over the world and must be stopped.” But the truth was that in 1935 they were one of the more oppressed people groups by in large in the entire world. In 1933 when Hitler was assigned to his office by the then chancellor Paul Von Hindenburg, he immediately began anti-Semitic propaganda in Germany and surrounding nations, the nations surrounding Germany. He established the first prison which is Dachau is a prison camp dealing with Jewish people and other people that were not desirous to the raid. In 1933 Jewish literature began to be destroyed throughout Germany. 1935 they passed what they call the “Nuremburg laws” which stripped all Jews of their rights and privileges. Jews were no longer allowed to intermarry with Gentiles and many other rights and privileges were removed. In Germany, Poland, in Austria, once the Nuremburg laws were passed in 1935 Jews were openly harassed, beaten, imprisoned, their businesses were boycotted, and their lives began to be governed by an ever increasing anti-Semitic laws that were being established in Germany. In 1938 this had increased so much the persecution against the Jewish people murders being a common everyday event of the Jewish people in Europe that they had what was called the Evian Conference. It came to be known as the Evian Conference in Evian France. Thirty two nations came together, this conference was spearheaded by the way by America. Thirty two nations came together to discuss the forced massive deportations of the Jews trying to decide what to do with them. There was only out of the 32 nations that attended this conference there was only 1 nation that was willing to take Jews and that was the Dominican Republic and they offered to open their borders to a hundred thousand Jewish families. Of the hundred thousand that they were willing to open their borders to, and that was at the cost of a tremendous financial settlement by the way. Of the hundred thousand that were supposed to have been accepted only one thousand ultimately were accepted the end of the war in 1945.  The Jewish ambassador, I mean the German ambassador went home and told Hitler “We can do what we want with them no one wants them.” So that opened the floodgates of Hitler’s hatred for the Jewish people across Germany. In November of that same year an event took place that came to be known as “Kristallnacht.” In Kristallnacht the Jewish businesses were desecrated, destroyed I mean windows were… the main thing about that whole thing was the broken that’s why it was called “Kristallnacht,” the “Night of the broken glass.” They broke the windows of Jewish businesses, the Jewish synagogues; they destroyed many Jewish synagogues across Germany and across Austria, and burned Jewish religious books. From the time that Kristallnacht… oh and they picked up 30 thousand men Sid for no reason except the fact that they were Jewish; picked up 30 thousand men and put them in prison camps.  The only men that came out of those prison camps alive were men whose families could prove to the government that they had visas or had landing permits to make a home in another country. If they couldn’t prove that the man was never released and he died in the prison camp. So synagogues were destroyed, businesses were destroyed, men were picked up and imprisoned, Jewish hospitals were destroyed, were looted, schools were looted, Jewish schools were looted and tremendous damage done all the way across Germany and Austria. From that point on Jews began to be barred from theatres, from public parks, Jewish children could no longer go to Gentile schools in fact even the Jewish schools were shut down so the Jewish children couldn’t go to school period. By the end of 1938 almost all Jewish banks had been forcibly put into the hands of Gentiles. Now I’m sharing all of this for 2 reasons:

1. To explain to the listener that there is one thing that has perpetrated every holocaust against the Jewish people, the Lord spoke this to me audibly. In my hours and hours of studying investigation regarding various holocausts I found it to be true and that is greed. The Gentile has risen up in greed desiring what was of the Jew. So they desired their homes, they desired their artwork, they desired their businesses, they desired their money. So the holocaust would begin and Jews would be killed in mass. Their property confiscated even as most listeners know they would even take the gold out of teeth. To the tune of millions and millions of dollars. So greed is at the bottom of every holocaust that has been perpetrated upon the Jewish person. It was no different in Germany.

Sid:  Now of course, and it can never be treated lightly with the 6 million men, Jewish men, women, and children that were murdered just because they were Jews. But what is not known is the sad history of the United States of America while this was going on. Would you tell me some of that?

Nita:  In America we were very aware of what was taking place at least our government leaders were. Roosevelt was, the man Breckinridge Long who headed the immigration, and of the government was well aware of what was going on. In fact he was a known anti-Semite in his day. So our government knew what was taking place in Europe…

Sid:  Nita I’m sorry we’re out of time.