It's Supernatural

We went to actually the house because this, this government leader showed us what, what, what building that they were going to get. We went there and we just decreed the glory of God over it. We said we create light on this property and we release the blood of Jesus over this property to seal it into His goodness. We are not going to allow evil to come into our city like that. And do you know what?

Within a week we get a, a notification from our friend in the city hall saying, oh, by the way, uh, they’ve changed their mind. They dropped the application and they’re going to go somewhere else. You know? So like you can even do this in groups. You can get together. We’ve had groups of, of uh, wives who have had unsaved husbands getting together and decreeing over their husbands the glory of God and the salvation of the Lord and, and, and God’s moving on their lives.

So you can take this and work it not only in your personal life but you can work it for the glory of God in your churches and your business places and nations and cities. I mean this is, this is what we’re called to do. You are a co-creator with God. So let me, let me wrap up right now by, by praying a blessing over you. Father, I pray for a blessing right now over everyone in this room and over everyone watching over the screen right now, that you would impart to them Your creative blessing.

The power to create with You and the power, Lord God, to rule and to reign with You over their situations in their life. What I’m sensing right now too is that there’s a number of you that are actually going to be sent to a mission field where there’s darkness.

SID: Now, angels play a big part in everything that you do. Tell me about Shelly.

JASON: So the week after that Friday, John was in the hospital on Monday, that Friday I got a call from a lady who said, “Were there two angels in John’s room on Monday night?” And I said, “Yeah, there were. I saw them.” And she goes, “I saw those two angels in his room also, and they were the same angels that were in my room when I was 16 years old, dying in a hospital. They showed up and I was completely healed.”

SID: Now you talk about every miracle in the Bible, and you trace them. All have human components. Explain that.

JASON: Yeah. Every miracle, whether that be Jesus or it be other people, the disciples, or it be the four friends that carry the man to Jesus and drop him through a roof. There’s always people that position themselves, who would line themselves up with they acted and played their part and played their role with what God’s word said about being that conduit that he could work in our lives. He loves to partner with us. And so I want to be the type of a person that says, man, God, I want to partner with you and I want to see breakthrough in my life and in the people’s lives all around me.

We all want a miracle, but it always starts with a crisis. And how we respond when that… To be honest, we’re always only one call away from a crisis. I mean, life could be turned upside down in a minute. And what do we do? And what I’m coming along and encouraging him is, no, don’t let fear, don’t let worry, don’t let anxiety take over, but position yourself. That’s where we stand on God’s promises. We speak of life and we hold on to what God’s promise, no matter what we see, we work. I always say to people, what’s your go to? What is the go to in your life when your life turns upside down?

SID: And you also talk about believe and obey. That simple?

JASON: Very simple, believe and obey. I’ve heard people say, “Well, I must not have enough faith for Jesus to do a miracle in my life.” And the Bible says we either have it or we don’t, the size of a mustard seed. And we’re given that faith. I tell people all the time, if you’ve lost your faith, go back to the point of salvation and get it restored. But belief is something we can build. I always say this: Faith is like knowing there’s a gym. Belief is actually going and working out.

SID: Big difference.

JASON: Big difference.

SID: Give me an example of what you’ve just been teaching. You were at Costco’s.

JASON: Yeah, I was at Costco one day and I’d walked in. I was probably hanging out at the Oreo cookie aisle, kind of just enjoying those a little bit. No I’m kidding.

SID: That’s where you like to…

JASON: But I walked in and I met a lady from our church and she said, “Man, I’ve been having massive headache. I’ve been having just massive migraines.” And I said, “Oh, I’ll pray for you.” The Christian line: I’ll pray for you. And walked on and went about my business. About three aisles down God said to me, “You’re not going to pray for her.” I go, “Well, I think I plan on it.” He goes, “No, you need to get back and do it right now. Don’t leave here without praying.” And so I did it. I went down and I prayed for her and she was automatically set free.

And so you wonder how many opportunities we miss because we don’t take that moment right away. Belief and obey.

SID: You talk about there’s things in life we have to ignore. And you even talked about Jarius’ daughter.

JASON: Yes. Oh yeah. Because I mean when Jesus came on the scene, the family was saying, no, she’s dead. Why didn’t you come? And Jesus ignored it. He didn’t answer him. And I think in our lives we have to ignore things like doctor’s reports, or when doctors say there’s nothing else we can do. That’s when Jesus gets to step in and incredible things happen. There’s things that we have… Even some friends we need to ignore. If you have friends in your life like Job you need to ignore him.

SID: It’s not so easy to ignore a doctor’s report..

JASON: That’s right.

SID: … who says you have cancer and you have four months to live. So what would you do if such a horrible report came to you?

JASON: Man, I’d take it to God. I’d just say, God, this is what I’m hearing. What do you say? What’s your truth about it? Speak to me. The hard part of that… Here’s the hard part, is holding onto that, holding onto what God says, but when God speaks, you can hold onto it. I’ve even heard believers say that, “I’ve tried everything that there is to try. Now I guess I can pray.” Prayers are last resort. And I say no, pray first. What are you desperate for? Are you desperate for God to show up or are you spending more time on WebMD trying to figure it out? I mean, what are you desperate for? And that’s an important question. Desperation. Like the lady with the issue of blood. She was desperate in scripture where she would be willing to travel and meet Jesus and be so glad just to touch his garment. Many of us would’ve given up. She was desperate.

SID: Okay. What happens when you see so many miracles, but then the people you pray for die? There’s a lot of people in that situation. Next.

SID: This gets so wonderful that some of you have been saying, “I have to live with it.” No you don’t. You just have to have more knowledge.

HRVOJE: Amen.

SID: The biggest issue in bloodline prayer, you call covenants.

HRVOJE: Covenants are actually the biggest issue in bloodline prayer because we have came to understanding that usually, like iniquity and sin, go to the third and fourth generation. What we see even in the Bible. But what we see with covenant is that covenants, and some of the covenants are even eternal. Because the Bible speaks about that Adam was created in the image and likeness of God. So that’s an amazing thing. But the Bible also teaches us in Genesis 5 that Seth, which is next in line after Adam, was made in the image and likeness, not of God, but in image and likeness of Adam. Which means everything what Adam had went through, and the sins, he passed on Seth, and he had to deal with that.

SID: So you’re saying that we could go all the way back, with the covenant, to Adam’s sin and if there’s some vestiges on us and we don’t break them, what’s the repercussion?

HRVOJE: So actually what happened is that we are bound, we are limited. So it’s not about salvation, it’s about living the life Jesus proclaimed over us before we were born. So there–

SID: It’s not just theory, it’s a fact that we can…

HRVOJE: It’s a fact. It’s a fact. And that’s what we want to see. We want to be a living testimony for everything what Jesus has done on the cross. We want to see everything because it’s too precious, the blood he has shed for us. So we want to live it out completely. That’s what we want to seek.

SID: Okay. If I’m understanding, we are instantly saved, but we have to work out our salvation through fear and trembling and break the generational bloodline curses. But explain the difference between forgiveness and cleansing.

HRVOJE: I think that’s very important. We see in 1 John 1:9 where the Bible says, “If we confess our sins, he’s faithful and just, to forgive us and cleanse us from all righteousness.” Even Jeremiah, in Jeremiah 33:8, says that God, “I will cleanse you from your iniquity and I will forgive you your iniquity.” So there is a difference between forgiveness and cleansing. Yes, when we received Jesus into our hearts, we were forgiven, but we still need cleansing in a lot of areas of our lives. So what is cleansing? Cleansing means … Sin means that we are pardoned of everything from the past, even unto Adam, but cleansing means to be every effect sin had on our life being taken away, so we can live in freedom, health and joy, and blessing.

SID: What difference has it made in your life?

HRVOJE: Absolutely a huge difference. Because I love prayer. It’s not that I pray every day my bloodline. But when I see that things which legally belong to us, what Jesus did on the cross, and I don’t receive it through prayer, through intercession, I know there are things the enemy is holding against me before God, the righteous judge. So I know there is something in my bloodline. I know because we have to understand there are three categories of sin. There is the Adamic sin, which is the original sin. There is personal sin we go through, but there is inherited sin from our forefathers, what the enemy uses against us so we don’t live in freedom and blessing.

And that’s what I feel when I know he’s my provider, but something is not breaking through. I know there is something in my bloodline. And I go present my bloodline before God and say, “God, through the blood of Jesus Christ, I pray not just for forgiveness but for cleansing.” And I see even in my family, in the Church and everywhere I go, immediate answers.

SID: I think it’s amazing how immediate these answers are. Explain the main requirement for bloodline prayer.

HRVOJE: The main requirement I would say is being in a covenant with God. So being in a covenant with God means I lay my life down for the purposes of the kingdom of God. I lay my life down for his name’s sake, and he’s my Lord. He’s my King, he’s my savior, he’s my everything. That’s being in a covenant with God.

SID: Why does the devil fight covenants so hard?

HRVOJE: Because it’s about authority. The covenant, if we are in a covenant with God, we are growing into authority. And the enemy is not that much afraid about the power which was given to us. He is afraid of the authority which is given to us and into which we grow into. Because when we have power we can guard ourselves from every effect he has on us, but if we have authority, we take the ground he has stolen from us, from the kingdom of God, and we take it back for the glory of Jesus.

SID: I can’t wait for you to share the time you were suddenly, instantly transported to heaven.

HRVOJE: Actually, it was surprising for me too. Because I was driving in my car and praying like I usually do. And suddenly I was … We would call it second heaven. And I stood in front of a golden mountain and next to me was an angel. So in that golden mountain there was a door, and I asked the angel, “Am I allowed to enter in?” And he said, “Yes.” So I entered in and I saw things around in this mountain. And then I saw a treasure room and I went into the treasure room. And in the treasure room I saw there were so many treasures in the treasure room. But what I also saw is that these treasure rooms were guarded by demonic entities. So they couldn’t see me, but they could see something is different in the atmosphere, because I was guarded.

So I saw this treasure box and I thought, “I want to have this treasure box.” So I asked the angel, “Can I have this treasure box?” And he said, “Yes you can, because that was stolen from your ancestors. And because you were made righteous, and because you have a testimony of sanctification, which means you are in a covenant with God, you are allowed to redeem that.” So when I took the treasure box, I immediately wanted to give it to Jesus. And suddenly I was in the third heaven, how we would call it. And I laid it in front of Jesus’s feet and suddenly was back.

So when I came back, two minutes, maybe three minutes later, somebody called me. And because in that time I was a real estate agent in Germany. And somebody called me and said, “Hey, do you want to sell my house?” I said, “Sure.” Because that’s what I do. So I asked him, “Where is the house?” So he said it’s in a city which is very close, around 20 miles from me, and he said, “The area’s name is Golden Mountain.” And he said, “The street is Golden Mill Street.” So I said, “For sure I’m going to take that.” In that time, it took nine to 12 months to sell a house or a property in Germany. I sold it the very next day.

SID: Do you believe you could pray for our studio audience and our audience at home when we come back, for them to recover any treasures stolen from their generation?

HRVOJE: Absolutely.

SID: Are you interested? I am. Be right back.

RYAN: Hello. Welcome to “Something More.” My name is Ryan Bruss. And I’m here with Laurie Ditto. Thank you for being with us.

LAURIE: [laughs] Thank you.

RYAN: And the name of this program today is “Encountering Heaven.” And Laurie has had many experiences in heaven with the Lord. And heaven’s a real place.

LAURIE: Yes.

RYAN: I know it’s in the Bible. I know we talk about it, we sing about it. But it is real.

LAURIE: It is real.

RYAN: And you really have been there.

LAURIE: [laughs] Yes.

RYAN: Well, talk about that. I mean, it’s real.

LAURIE: It is. You know, it’s better than anything that I can tell you. You can’t exaggerate the beauty, and the splendor, and the happiness, and the joy that’s in heaven. And it’s our home. And that’s where we’re headed. Hallelujah.

RYAN: So, are we going to be, when we go to heaven, are we going to be – Are there cherubs that are going to be flying around –

LAURIE: [laughs]

RYAN: – just handing us grapes? And we’re going to be laying around all day? What, Is it a real city? Is it a real kingdom?

LAURIE: [laughs] It is. And I didn’t see that. Although, I have seen angels. They’re mighty. They’re big. When they wear their wings it’s like they’re in dress uniform.

RYAN: Wow.

LAURIE: So it’s a wonderful place. It’s an operating city that I was in. There’s an operating city. And we can’t wait to get there.

RYAN: But it’s a kingdom.

LAURIE: Amen.

RYAN: And there’s a lot. And Jesus said pray like this, “Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done.”

LAURIE: That’s right.

RYAN: So I know you have a real passion to bring heaven down to earth because it’s real. And you talk about how earth is like a playground –

LAURIE: [laughs]

RYAN: – you know, that God made for us.

LAURIE: Right. Right. And so, in heaven there are principles. There are heavenly principles that we really need, to operate in those, to see the kingdom break forth in our lives. So truth is a kingdom principle.

RYAN: Right.

LAURIE: And truth brings us into that reality. So there are a lot of words that were designed for heaven. And if we use them correctly here on the earth then we will get the same principle in heaven that’s happening here.

RYAN: Now you’ve had many encounters in heaven.

LAURIE: Yes.

RYAN: And, tell me about the red dress heaven story.

LAURIE: [laughs] That time I got to heaven, Ryan, I noticed I was not in the typical clothing. Most of the clothing in heaven is beautiful white clothing. And if you could take every single color – and there are colors in heaven that are not on the earth – if you could take every single color and compress it into a dot it would create sequins of, like light. That’s the white. And I was wearing this red dress that was, it was not a beautiful red dress.

RYAN: Hm.

LAURIE: It was cut all wrong. It was for a girl. It was much too tight. Just not a good dress. And I felt very self-conscious in that dress. And there were angels trying to take me to see the Lord, and I didn’t want to go, because I felt inadequate.

RYAN: Inadequate. Yeah.

LAURIE: So I got there. And when they arrived the Lord went to touch my hands. And He loves to grab ahold of us,

RYAN: Really?

LAURIE: or, you know, put His arm around us.

RYAN: And that’s missing in today’s world.

LAURIE: [laughs]

RYAN: A lot of putting your arm around, you know, that touchy –

LAURIE: That’s true. It’s true.

RYAN: So Jesus is kind of touchy-feely. [laughs]

LAURIE: [laughs] And He’s awesome. It’s awesome.

RYAN: Right.

LAURIE: And as soon as He went to touch me, I said, “Don’t touch me, Lord.” And right away He said, “What is the accusation.” And it just started coming out of me. [Sighs] I started telling Him how I don’t believe I am who You say I am.

RYAN: Wow.

LAURIE: Meaning, I didn’t think that I was special or important. And then He would hear that, and He would ask for more. And when the Lord asks for an answer from one of His servants it just, you’re going to answer. And sometimes I didn’t realize the answer that was coming out. I said to Him, “I am a prostitute.” Which was shocking there,

RYAN: Right.

SID: Tommy, tell me about your meeting in Angola.

TOMMY: Angola, Africa, three-night meeting, 50,000 in the audience, 50,000 showed up in the meeting. The glory mist rolled over the meeting. It was like a smoke, a campfire, but we had no campfires, but there was like campfires, and the smoke was all over the crowd. I made the altar call and 12,000 came out of that 50,000. We had 12,000 saved in that night.

During that meeting, there were so many miracles. You mentioned it earlier about the 25 deaf and dumb, they were just instantly healed. Let me tell you what they said. They had never heard any language, never heard any language, so when I spoke to them and said say Jesus, they said Jesus in Alabama English because they never heard it anywhere else. But, the glory, and the demons would run. There were demons running, running, running out of the field. We had a large ball field type and the demons would run.

SID: Now, did you see this? What do you mean the demons would run?

TOMMY: The people possessed of the enemy, possessed of the devil would come upon the scene and the mist would surround them, the glory mist, they would turn and run, and run out of the area, run out there screaming, screaming, holding their ears and screaming. That’s what the power of God does. It runs the enemy out of your life.

TOMMY: Runs the enemy out of your life.

SID: Tommy, I believe when that glory comes at full level; we’re not going to have to deal with sickness, we’re not going to have to deal with demons, we’re not going to have to deal with problems. The only problem we are going to have is we will have an insatiable hunger for God.

SID: Until we get to Heaven, it won’t be totally fulfilled, but it’s going to be really close with this glory, this greater glory.

TOMMY: We need to create what I call a throne zone, a throne zone, a throne zone in your home, a throne zone that we can worship God in that throne zone.

TOMMY: Get you a good CD player, get you some good music on the air, so you create that atmosphere for worship. Get the atmosphere for worship going…

TOMMY: … on and then plead the blood of Jesus. Pray, pray like you’ve never prayed before. The prayer is the key. Prayer is the key. Get your prayer life.

SID: You talked about praying in tongues, in supernatural language.

TOMMY: Pray in your language, pray in tongues, pray in your supernatural prayer language because you’re communicating with God and God’s communicating back. Sometimes we need to not pray and listen to what God’s got to say sometime. That’s part of prayer also. But when we create that throne zone, it’s like the high priest going behind the last veil and going into the throne zone if you will, and there is the glory. The glory was there when he got that. That’s what we’ve got to do, create this throne zone. Then, here comes your children, here comes your grandchildren, and here comes your spouse in the house; and the glory of God has penetrated the house. The glory of God has penetrated so much, they come into the house, their lives are changed. Their lives are changed. Children are saved, grandchildren are saved simply because you’ve created a throne zone and attracted the glory by pleading the blood of Jesus and praying. That creates the throne zone.

SID: I want you to declare right now the blood and the glory on everyone viewing us or in the studio audience.

TOMMY: Lord, I come to you today, I thank you, and I praise you for everything we have or ever hoped to have, but most of all, God in heaven, Father God, I thank you for sending Jesus to us. Jesus, we thank you for doing your assignment and Holy Ghost. We thank you for being right now. God, I declare the glory of God comes to all of us, the glory of God in so much measure that no man can count it, that no one can understand it, what has happening when the glory of God.

God, I plead the blood of Jesus right now over everyone watching, over everyone in the studio, everyone here. God, I declare this place, this Sid Roth studio as a presence and an open portal for God. From this day forward, an open presence of God rules this place. It takes over. As the audience comes in, they’re healed. The presence of God flows, and there’s presence of God flowing today right into you. Say, “I receive it now.”

Audience: I receive it now.

SID: I receive it now-

TOMMY: In the name of Jesus-

SID: … in the name of Jesus.

TOMMY: … I receive it now.

Audience: I receive it now.

TOMMY: In Jesus’ name.

Audience: In Jesus’ name.

SID: In Jesus’ name.

TOMMY: It’s done.

Audience: It’s done.

SID: It’s done.

TOMMY: I expect the glory.

Audience: I expect the glory.

SID: I expect the glory.

TOMMY: Come on, say it. I expect the glory.

SID: I expect the glory.

Audience: I expect the glory.

TOMMY: It’s happening now in Jesus’ name.

SID: Amen.

TOMMY: Hey, give God some glory. Give God some glory.

TOMMY: I praise you, father, Son, and Holy Ghost. I worship you, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost in the name of Jesus.

SID: In the glory, it is breakthrough in you having your own experiential knowledge of God, and the glory of God is here. The glory of God is here to heal you; to fill you with his spirit; speaking in supernatural languages; to live inside of him and you; and have that own encounter, that own experience with God, not someone else’s, not Tommy’s, not mine, yours.

SID: I want you to repeat this prayer after me out loud and mean it to the best of your ability. Dear God-

TOMMY: Dear God-

Audience: Dear God-

SID: … I’ve made many mistakes.

Audience: … I’ve made many mistakes.

TOMMY: … I’ve made many mistakes.

SID: I’m truly sorry.

Audience: I’m truly sorry.

TOMMY: I’m truly sorry.

SID: I believe-

Audience: I believe-

TOMMY: I believe-

SID: … the blood of Jesus-

Audience: … the blood of Jesus-

TOMMY: … blood of Jesus-

SID: … removes every mistake I’ve ever made.

TOMMY: … removes every mistake I’ve ever made.

Audience: … removes every mistake I’ve ever made.

SID: I am clean.

TOMMY: I am clean.

Audience: I am clean.

SID: Oh, God-

Audience: Oh, God-

TOMMY: Oh, God-

SID: … now that I’m clean-

Audience: … now that I’m clean-

TOMMY: … now that I’m clean-

SID: … come inside of me.

TOMMY: … come inside of me.

Audience: … come inside of me.

SID: Take over my life.

Audience: Take over my life.

TOMMY: Take over my life.

SID: I make you my Lord.

Audience: I make you my Lord.

TOMMY: Make you my Lord.

SID: Get ready for the glory of God-

TOMMY: Amen.

SID: … to overtake you.