It's Supernatural

Sid: You know you don’t have to be a mental giant to know that there is a spirit loose in the world and it’s called a spirit a spirit of fear with the… ever since 9/11. And then you throw in the movies that are going on with the New Age. And what’s going on in the schools, and what’s going on with the morality from television and it just breeds fear. Recently I heard a wonderful sermon on fear and how to overcome it, but you know what, he didn’t say how to overcome it. He told he said pray, read your Bible but I need something more tangible I don’t know about you but I need something more tangible than just a generic read your Bible. I have on the telephone a friend that has been on previously Peggy Joyce Ruth. She is speaking to me from her home in Brownwood, Texas. She has devoted the last 25 years of her life studying Psalm 91. And if I know one thing I know this it’s more important to digest the word of God than to even read the word of God. You can have a speed contest of reading your Bible, but if you don’t literally digest those words and get them into your spirit all it is is black ink on white paper. That’s why God said to Joshua “You must meditate on My word day and night.” And in the Hebrew the word meditate means to mumble and mumble it out loud and personalize it. And so that’s why I was so excited when Peggy wrote a book on Psalm 91, but she has just come out with a new book that I know will be far more important than even her previous book. It’s Psalm 91 for young people, for children. Peggy, for those that aren’t familiar with you, how did you happen to do such an intense 25 year study of Psalm 91?

Peggy Joyce: Well 25 years ago I was under the care of a physiatrist and I was so terrified I was afraid of cancer, and I was afraid of car accident, and I was afraid of losing a member of the family and…

Sid: And speaking about diseases and things everything every time I pick up the newspaper they say something that use to be healthy for you is now unhealthy for you, you don’t know what to eat.

Peggy Joyce: Exactly and I had come to the place that it had put so much fear on me that I literally was… I had taken shock treatments, all the shock treatments that they could give me. They had given me all kinds of antidepressants. So one day I just cried out to God and I said “Is there any way that we could escape the evils that are coming on this earth or do we just take our chance with everybody else or whatever will be will be?” And I laid down across the bed and I had a dream, the dream only lasted about 5 minutes. But it was a really unusual dream and God supernaturally quoted to me out of Psalm 91. Now I did not know my Bible 25 years ago, I didn’t have any idea that what was being said to me was even out of the word of God. But the Lord just supernaturally then took me to Psalm 91 and there it was the very thing that He quoted to me in the dream. And it was the answer, the answer for every single thing that I had ever feared. And I started studying it, I mean when you’re talking about digesting it your right it doesn’t do any good to just read. It’s when we take that word in and every word has meaning. And I was so excited to find out that there’s promises of protection all through the word. But this is the only place that where all the only promises of protection are gathered together in one collection.

Sid: You know that’s so important Peggy Joyce please make that statement again.

Peggy Joyce: There are promises all through the word but this is the only place where all of the promises are gathered together in one collection in a covenant. Every extreme evil known to man will fall into one of four categories. And those 4 categories are listed in Psalm 91 verses 5 & 6 and it tells us that we do not have to be afraid. And it names the four categories it says “It will not approach us.” And I got so excited about that that I started saying “Lord can this possible? You know it’s going to be going against the entire world to start to believe this because 25 years ago I’d never even heard the word Psalm 91 mentioned, you know we hear it all the time now, but 25 years ago you didn’t. And the Lord… this has been the most exciting 25 years I’ve been teaching this now and not only to our church but I’ve taught it in different conferences. And finally that’s when the Lord had me write the book because it could reach so many more people. And the Lord showed me in Romans 5:20 that “Where evil abounds the grace of God is in greater abundance.” And I tell you the world is definitely… evil is definitely abounding in the world. But I believe that God showed me that His covenant promise of His protection in Psalm 91 is the grace that is in greater abundance for our needs in the area of protection.

Sid: You know Peggy they think that the line of all of those wonderful things in protection of Psalm 91 are wonderful, but the thing that excites me most about Psalm 91 is the very last line. God say with long life I will satisfy him. In other words, someone can have a long life but not be satisfied.

Peggy Joyce: Exactly.

Sid: Can you picture this this is a promise to someone listening to me right now it’s to whosoever, that’s you. You’re going to live and not die and declare the works of the Lord. With long life you won’t just have a long life; with long life you’ll be satisfied with such intimacy with God. You can’t you won’t be able to worry even if you tried. (Laughing)

Peggy Joyce: Oh, and I had the sweetest thing happen there was a little lady from Minnesota that called she was having her 100^th Birthday. She told me when she read my book she got so excited because she had lived a close relationship with the Lord and she said “I have about 100 people coming to my Birthday party, she said I want to order 100 books because I want to give every family that comes a gift” because she said “I want them to know what I experienced all of these years.” (Giggling)

Sid: Now tell me about the book for young people, I have a burden in this I’ve got granddaughters and I see the type of thing they get from school and praise God I just purchased Sky Angel for them so at least we have the right thing coming out of that box called television. But how did you happen to write this book and why?

Peggy Joyce:   Well, I’ve had parents from all over literally all over the United States who have asked for a book that would teach Psalm 91 to a child. See there’s quite a number of articles written on Psalm 91 encouraging parents to pray this covenant protection over their children and I fully agree with that. But I have not ever read anything teaching the child himself how to appropriate his protection covenant. And you know mom and dad are not always going to be there.

Sid: You know what age range would you use your book for?

Peggy Joyce:   Okay, what I did I got a great many of mothers and children to read the manuscript ahead of time before it went to press to see what age it would really work for. We found that the reading age level for a child that’s going to read it for himself starts about 9 years old and goes on up through teenagers. In fact, I have a lot of adults that tell me they like this book a lot better than they liked the one for adults.

Sid: I’ve heard that also, but what about the ones that are even younger than 9 that can’t read themselves.

Peggy Joyce: I have a bunch of mothers who have children that are aged like 4, 5, 6 and they’ve taken the book and they say that they are just amazed at how much their little 4 years old are being able to get. So it’s written so simply that those that are too young to read for themselves that they can easily understand it when it’s read to them, but it’s amazing that it works for the young people on up clear through the teenage years. And a perfect example of this, is my little grandson Avery Adams. He’s 4 years old, he lives in Montana with his mother and dad and they’ve taught him they’ve taken Psalm 91. They’ve taught it to him they’ve taught in his own little way about his authority over sickness. And they’ve said now instead of running to his mommy every time he gets hurt they’ll hear him say “Devil you can’t hurt me by Jesus’ stripes I’m healed.” And he’ll say Psalm 91 he may not know it exactly what it means but he’ll say that. And they say now it’s unbelievable about how he’ll just go right on playing where he used to come running and crying. So he has a covenant of protection as young as he is.

Sid: You know we think that we’re the ones that we’re supposed to pray for these young people but the truth is, they’ve got so much faith when you tell them the truth that you’ll end up wanting the young people praying for you.

Peggy Joyce: Oh, listen I’d rather now have a child pray for me than an adult because they just pray with so much faith. And the reason that I wanted this book out is because these little children they can learn from another child’s experience.   When they hear what other children have done and the miracles that other children have seen happening well, their excited. They’re ready to put it into practice.

Sid: You know the thought is crossing my mind that there are many house churches or house Bible studies but their normally for just adults. Wouldn’t it be great if 2 or 3 families get together and read 1 chapter each Bible study and discussed it as families to overcome fear and all the junk that’s happening on this earth?

Peggy Joyce: And I’ve had a lot of mothers write me or call and say that’s what they’re doing that their using the book. And that’s what they’re doing they’re taking a chapter at a time and their using that as their family devotional to teach it to their children. So I’m excited about that.  

Sid: Now I know it’s brand new and you don’t have much feedback but the thing that I like so much is you teach and then you have testimonies of young people that have appropriate these promises line upon line.

Peggy Joyce: Exactly, it’s just filled with heartwarming stories of youth that have victoriously stood on God’s word. And it’s just overflowing with testimonies and ideas on how to apply the truth. And some really well done illustrations. I got this guy who is really good with illustrations and he’s illustrated different stories in the book. Then what the children are enjoying as much as anything I put a picture of them at the end…

Sid: Of the people that had the miracles…we’re out of time Peggy Joyce….

Sid: Chuck I promised our Mishpochah that you were going to pray on yesterday’s broadcast just as we were going off the air, we really didn’t do it justice. Your wife had an amazing healing with supernatural things as she began to worship, would you recap that very quickly?

Chuck: Well, Pam had had a bad diagnosis. It’s been so good being with you Sid this week has been so good being with you this week and it’s been great being with you. I just wish every listener could have been with us all week. And I just want to say this this ministry is a trumpet for what God’s doing so please be a part of Sid Roth’s ministries and what it represents in the earth now in developing that new wine skin of the One New Man. So and with that I want to say this one of the things and we’re talking about worship wars and the book “Worship Warrior.” God spoke to me when Pam was barren and couldn’t have children and said these words to me “The new song will break the old cycle.” Well Pam wasn’t an extrovert type of worshiper and earlier in the week I shared about the freedom God had brought me into, and so I kept encouraging my wife “Honey if you will respond to God in worship as He’s calling you to worship you’ll see changes in your life.” I’ll never forget Sid she said to me “You know you’ve gotten us in so much trouble because we were in a denominational church through worshipping especially that time you stood up and raised your hands in the choir.” We were both in a 140 member choir church and I stood up when we sang “He’s Alive” and raised my hands and that got us in so much trouble.

Sid: (Laughing)

Chuck: She said “Chuck there’s only 2 places in the New Testament it talks about raising hands because she’s a brilliant lady. And I said “Listen, I don’t care if it’s in the concordance it doesn’t matter God wants us to respond to Him, He wants us to acknowledge who He is.”  

Sid: What would you say to someone that says “But that’s not my personality, that might be yours Chuck but it’s not mine?”

Chuck: Well it might not be your normal personality but we’ve been all been called and worship will lead you into a response with your body. That’s why He talks to us about dancing and God’s going to restore the Tabernacle of David fully, we’ll be dancing. They’ll come a time where God will require you to dance and express yourself to Him with your body lifting holy hands to Him. And what happened with Pam was we were at a James Robinson Conference and while we were there at James’s Conference John Wimber was ministering and Pam had been diagnosed that she would never have children she had endometriosis.   And all of a sudden in the midst of that time she lifted both hands, I looked over I felt the presence of God around us. She had both hands up waving them, and I said “What’s happening?” And she said “It’s like hot oil is going down through my body and what it did was actually right there in the service it had knocked the clot out of her uterus. She had her first normal monthly cycle that I had ever known her to have and I had known her for over 12 years. She then got pregnant two weeks later and got pregnant, and pregnant, and pregnant and pregnant over again. And I want to say to you God broke that old cycle in her womb. Now some of you are listening out there and I just believe today in this last day of us discussing this if you will make a shift in worship, and I don’t think that Pam could have experienced that had she not lifted her hands before the Lord. I don’t think that she could have really come into what God had for her. She was totally liberated and she was totally healed and she actually had 7 children. Now that’s important to understand because there’s seeds of revival locked up within us, there’s seeds of destiny locked up within us, there’s seed of inheritance locked up within us and through worshipping God you can be set free!

Sid: I think it’s time for us to worship God.

Chuck: I thinks that’s right and I just want to tell you right now what I’d like to do Sid for the listeners I’d like to pray that everything that would be distracting them from worship. I would like to begin to address some of those distractions and then I want to declare that they will break into whole new dimension of freedom and worship. Now Father I come right now and I thank You for what You’re going to do, I thank You Lord for how Your going to release a dimension of faith in every listener out there that has been listening. I thank You Father that they will win the war of faith that they are in. Father, I decree right now that any care of the world that’s distracting them I break the power of that conforming plan of the enemy from around them. Lord I decree right now that they are fruitful, Lord that barrenness will begin to break off of them. Some of you might be physically barren right now and I decree that it will be broken in Jesus name. Lord says, “Lift your hands now and begin to worship, let the sound of the Lord that’s in you go out it’ll change the atmosphere around you.” Father I declare some that might be listening in their job I declare a quickening power of the Lord to come into their cubicles. I declare that as they begin to bless You right there in their cubical the whole atmosphere of the floor they work on will be changed. Father I thank You right now that there are some (I see some that have arthritis in their arms and in their joints). I declare that as they stretch those joints out and Father as they stretch out to You Father I declare a healing power. Father even as I say that right now there’s worship right now coming into some and there’s someone out there a renal problem. And the Lord’s saying “Clap your hands before Me and I’ll begin to heal you.” Now we come right now and we pray for the peace of Jerusalem also. Father we say “Let wholeness come into Jerusalem, we bind any divisive spirit to divide your covenant plan of that city.” And Father we also declare any spirit that would like to divide and weaken us the power of that is broken. Lord we say show us places where covenant breaking spirits exist around us. Lord we love you we bless you, Father I say let glory faith begin to manifest in these people. Father bring them into a new place with You. Lord, bring me into a new place with You bring Sid in a new way. Father and I say “Let the manifested presence of Yourself begin to be sensed around us.” Lord, anoint us, radiate through us and let us walk into this world with victory. Father, we love You we bless You in Jesus Name. Amen

Sid: Well, Mishpochah I can tell you we are in the presence of God. Explain quickly Chuck what it’s like to be in the throne room. Are you in the throne room when you were praying just then?

Chuck:   I feel like my spirit that has been given position in the heavenlies next to the Lord Jesus Christ and that I’m connected here in the earth realm through the power of the Holy Spirit. I believe once I come before the Lord He gives me access right in and I can come boldly and ask the Father to begin to bless everyone that’s listening. I mean Sid there’s power and blessing and most of the time we never see Father wanting us to bless us. Some of you have never received the Father’s blessing out there. The Lord says “Come up, come up, come up I want to bless you.” Some of you are from broken homes the Lord says “Let My Spirit of adoption comes down on you.” Some of you have been abandoned, you’ve been rejected and I break that power.” The Lord says “Come up boldly and let Me pour My love over you, submit yourself to me, anything the enemies doing resist him he’ll flee. Father I thank You for the opportunity to come boldly into Your throne.”

Sid: What’s the next thing that’s going to happen in the United States and in Israel?

Chuck: I believe we’re in such a key time I believe that this year we will be contending for God’s covenant plan. Now if you’re listening out there worship because this is the year where you think you’ve been wearied in the past it says in Jeremiah 12:5, but if the footmen have wearied you you’re never going to be able to tend with the horses and cross over at the flood plain of the Jordan.” I believe that this year where Israel will become very very prominent the understanding of God’s covenant land will become prominent. And nations will begin to align the goat and the sheep nations. I’m praying that we’re a sheep nation; that we make the right alignments this year. I’m praying that we are able to break our weariness. Now if you’re listening to me God wants to break the power of weariness off of you. He says that circumstance you’ve been in I will want you see how I was training you so that you could even have more strength to contend in days ahead. So I want to say to you this will be a year of contending but it’s also a year of secrets being revealed, mysteries being disclosed and surprises in our midst’s, and that’s going to come if we’re a worshipping people.

Sid: If you had 2 visions like my guest Dutch Sheets had of the 3^rd great awakening, and I can’t wait for him to share in detail what he sees coming shortly. But maybe I’ll give you a little preview. Dutch you told me last night that you saw a billion people saved over the next 10 years worldwide. That is to an evangelist that is music to my ears.

Dutch: It’s so exciting Sid I’m confident of it I’ve seen this coming for 20 years. We’re about to move into the greatest outpouring of the Holy Spirit the earth has ever seen we’ll see more people saved in our day than in the previous 2000 years since Yeshua died on the cross and rose again. I believe I have a promise from the Lord that we’ll see at least a billion souls come into the kingdom over the next 10 years.

Sid: Now I hear in your voice a ring of hope; many prophets of which you are, it’s all doom and gloom. But I hear a lot of hope in your voice; why do you have such hope in your voice? Because you’ve seen some of the negatives we’ve discussed it. Why do you have so much hope?

Dutch: Well I have hope because number 1 that it’s not God’s will that any perish. To think that the Redeemer, the Lord Himself, would give up on this great multitude in the Valley of Decision the scripture say this, this great number that have not heard. To think that He’d give up on them before He returns is unthinkable. But beyond that I’ve had visitations from the Lord, I haven’t seen Him personally but I knew He was there talking to me for some times hours. I’ve had visions that you’ve mentioned where I’ve seen this coming harvest. God is about to visit this earth with the 3^rd great awakening which will be, as I said, “The greatest we’ve ever seen.” He wants to see these people come to know Him more than we do.

Sid: I know I’ve got to ask you this “How close are we to what you have seen?”

Dutch: Oh, I believe we’re already in the beginning stages of it; but it’s like a baby it’s there before we can see it. Those of us that are prophetic enough to discern to see to hear clearly what He’s saying we’re like Elijah who said “I hear the sound of an abundant rain.”   He can hear it; there was no thunder yet naturally; there wasn’t a cloud in the sky. Prophetically he could hear it; he could sense it and he said “It is here.” God has told me “It’s going to rain.” That’s where we are right now and for those that are out there a lot as I am traveling every weekend all over the nation; sometimes to other nations. There is a remnant of believers around the world that is passionate, on fire interceding, they are ready. God has this thing ready for this outpouring; and as I said “In some places it’s already beginning.

Sid: Tell me one; one place that you’ve seen it and what’s going on.

Dutch:   I was in a meeting just this past week in Tennessee where there is such an outpouring of the Holy Spirit. They have seen over 800 people baptized in the last 8 weeks; they have seen signs wonders and miracles. This movement of the Holy Spirit caught them by surprise, they weren’t expecting. They were crying out for it, they were believing that this is coming but they had no ideas that it was about to begin. God just showed up the whole room was on their face; no one could move. I’m being told there are sometimes 45 minutes to an hour in these gatherings which by the way are up to 2000 people and 100,000 watching on line. There are times when no one moves or talks for an hour, there are times when the evangelist can’t get to the message because the Spirit of God comes during the worship. This is almost out of control; I visited it because the evangelist is a spiritual son to me and I wanted to see it firsthand. The night I was there we never got to the message; God just started moving on people before we ever got there. This is going to happen all over this nation…

Sid: No I want… we’re going to get to that later in the week. But I want to get to know you just a little bit; your dad was a pastor, you get saved at age 4. You saw the supernatural; what type of things you saw as a young person growing up in your dad’s church.

Dutch: Oh, I saw every conceivable miracle you can imagine. I have seen personally live, with my eyes, blind eyes open, cataracts dissolve and people wipe them off their eyes. You could see the red…

Sid: Now that’s my kind of eye doctor. (Laughing)

Dutch: Yeah, I’m telling you have seen… I saw one lady who had stomach cancer God could have dissolved it when He healed her. He chose to work a sign and a wonder I saw her literally vomit up that blob of cancer onto the floor in front of all of our eyes. And she was documented by her doctors completely cancer free. I have seen broken bones healed before my eyes. I saw a young boy that had never walked without braces take them off. I heard the bones snap and bop before he started running around the room. I mean I have just seen a lot of things; I’ve seen crooked backs healed; I’ve seen tumors disappear. I saw one lady that had a tumor in her stomach; it was so large she looked like she was probably 7 months pregnant. And my dad he looked like he was hitting her touch her stomach and she gasped and you could see she had a dress on like a pregnant lady would have to wear. You could see that dress go down and we watched it dissolve before our eyes.

Sid: Well actually George Cove used to punch people in the stomach, that was before there was lawsuits and things like that, and they would get healed. I think that sounds like what he was doing with her.

Dutch: Yes he wrapped a microphone around his hand and hit her with a microphone.

Sid: Okay, now at 17 the devil shows up; you have a church split; your dad gets so discouraged he runs off with the church secretary and you go into drugs and alcohol. I have to ask you a question, I got saved at 30 I had an encounter with the devil. I had an encounter with God. God’s much stronger and much better; I don’t understand a backslider seeing all that you saw how did you backslide?

Dutch: Sid my dad was my picture of what God was like, he was who I looked at when I thought of God. He was my model; he was my example; when he turned away from the Lord temporarily, he came back to the Lord; he’s in heaven now. But when he turned away from the Lord and rejected everything I had believed in all of my life I didn’t lose my belief in God. I knew that there was a God; I still knew that the miracles were real; I just turned so bitter and so angry and was so disillusioned that I had a crisis of faith. I just couldn’t believe in God’s goodness anymore. I couldn’t believe in His faithfulness anymore. I couldn’t believe He loved us; how could You leave my family destitute. I mean my mom runs out trying to find a job and gets one at the meat market and I get a part time job at school, my brother does. We find an apartment and we just survive and I turned angry and bitter and said “I’ll never darken the door of another church.”

Sid: So one night you’re in a bar feeling sorry for yourself with the unhappiest people on earth gather around you because like begets like, and that’s who gets to bars. And you hear the voice of God, what did He say?

Dutch: Well absolutely I was stoned on marijuana and I had 2 years I’m into this process listening to a band the music was so loud you couldn’t hear yourself think. And what may have been an audible voice I don’t think it was because I don’t think I would have heard it over the music. But it was so loud inside of me it was like that; I heard God say to me “What are you doing here?” And my first response I was so shocked I sort of looked around and looked behind me; and yet I knew it was God and my first response to Him was “What are You doing here?”

Sid: (Laughing) That’s a good question.

Dutch:   This was such an evil place, it was…

Sid: But that’s the place Jesus would have gone into. He would not have gone into drink but go ahead. (Laughing)

Dutch:   That’s right and I said “What are You doing here?” And He said “I’m here for you. And he said “You know that this is not who you are don’t you and don’t you know that this is never who you will be.” And I was instantly sober, walked outside, left my friends inside and walked outside that place up and down the street for an hour just talking with God. And asking Him questions “I don’t understand how could this happen? Lord I do love You and I know that this is not who I am but I can’t reconcile any of this.” In my heart I was weeping, I was crying, I cry almost every time I talk about it; the Lord patiently just loved me. I wasn’t afraid of going to hell; you couldn’t have scared me back into the kingdom Sid, but I couldn’t deal with a God who loved me enough that chased me into that place.

Sid: I’ll tell you what our time is up today; we’ll pick up here on tomorrow’s broadcast. Because the gifting that God has bestowed through grace on Dutch Sheets… this is going to revolutionize people. Why? Because people are in such despair today they’re so hopeless, they’ve seen so many failures, they’ve seen what appears to them not answers to prayer. They’ve been sick they’ve not been healed, their problems with their family, problems with their finances, they’re weighted down. They feel like they can’t bust out….

Sid:  Recently I was a guest on TBN and there was another guest on TBN. I recognized the presence of God, and I said “This man has a story to tell,” and I found out that that inclination by the Holy Spirit it was right.  His name is Pastor Shane Warren, he’s Senior Pastor of the First Assembly of God in West Monroe, Louisiana.  And Shane when you were twelve years old you had such an encounter with God that it forever changed your life, tell me about that.

Shane:  Well, Sid when I was twelve years old first of all I grew up in a home I had great parents, but none of us served the Lord, none of my grandparents served the Lord; so I didn’t know who Jesus was at all.  And my grandfather had a farm, and from time to time I would go to his house. I loved staying with him, and he had built me a fort in the back of this farm.  And I had one day went out to this fort and sat down in this fort for whatever reason, and looked up and there was a man standing before me. I’ve heard people say that His clothes were like white, it looked like He was clothed in the sun, it was like the brightest thing you could ever see.  He was standing in front of me, and for years Sid I’ve looked for words to describe how I felt that day when the Lord Jesus appeared to me and they only thing that I can find in the scripture is in Isaiah 6 when the Bible says, “Isaiah saw the Lord high and lifted up and he said, I am undone.”  I was twelve years old, I hadn’t really, I hadn’t committed any major terrible sin so to speak of, but I knew that something was undone in me and yet at the same time it was like I was just bathed or washed like in a bathtub of the most pure love that any human being could ever experience in their life.  And I started to weep and at this time this man walked up to me, put his right hand upon my head, my forehead and he said, “I’ve called you to the nations,” and when he said that I closed my eyes and I started weeping more and I could feel His hand upon my head and so thinking He was still there I opened my eyes only to find that He was gone.  And at that moment I knew something drastic, you know of course that happened in my life.  I didn’t see a ghost, it wasn’t that kind of an apparition appearing, this was something that was real.  So I jumped up, ran as fast I could run to my grandfather’s house approached him and said I called him Pop I said, “Pop tell me what I just saw, what just happened” and I shared it with him and he started to weep.  And he said, “Son I’m not sure, but you have an aunt that has just started going to church and will take you to her.”  And at that time her name was Barbara and I went to her and shared my story and shared what I had seen and she said, “I believe that you saw Jesus.”  And that was the beginning of my journey Sid I had a Supernatural beginning.  You know your show being named “It’s Supernatural” I just don’t think that people grasp how big and how wonderful and how supernatural our God really is.  And that’s how this thing started with me.

Sid:  What changes occurred after that visitation, what changes occurred in your life?

Shane:  Yeah, immediately you know my whole demeanor, my whole outlook, my whole feel of where I was going in life you know at twelve you have dreams of being a fireman, or a police officer, or a president, but from that point forward I knew that there was something on my life that I was going to do in the work of the Lord.  And you know that aunt led me to a church service, that church service was in an old Assembly of God Church in Nashville, Tennessee and the preacher that service that morning was Easter Sunday morning 1982. For whatever reason you know they took up the offering at the first of the service so the guys got up to walk down the front; I’d never been in church in my life when they stood up that’s when I thought everybody did so I just ran down to the front and you know the preacher whose name is Bill Carver, he’s still alive to this day looked at me and said, “Young man, what do you need?”  I said, “I don’t know.”  He said, “Have you received Jesus, I said, “No I haven’t that’s what I need.” He led me to Jesus that day again that was 1982 Easter Sunday morning, Resurrection Sunday, I don’t like the word Easter, I like the word Resurrection Sunday morning.  And that was the Resurrection of my soul that day. It began a supernatural walk for me that has continued to this day and has made me hungry and more hungry every day for supernatural things of God.

Sid:  Now when you had that visitation and the Lord put His hand on your head did He speak anything?

Shane:  Yeah, He spoke to me and He said, “I’ve called you to the nations,” and what’s interesting to the nations.

Sid:  But what does that mean today looking back at that?

Shane:  Well looking back, you know now I’ve been in numerous countries of the world, probably more than I can count. I’ve been in almost every state in America preaching the gospel and sharing the love of Jesus Christ, and seeing miracles by His hands as He demonstrates the gospel to people everywhere.

Sid:  Speaking of miracles at age seventeen something new started happening from what I understand when you feel the Lord touch your head like he did when you were age twelve miracles breakout; you begin to see things in the Spirit, but at seventeen this is off the chart you know peoples’ names and addresses; things about their future; you see glows around them; tell me one person.  Oh how about that person where you knew about their dream.

Shane:  Well, this happened several years ago, I was in a church and was on the platform; there was a choir of about sixty to seventy people behind me approximately 800 to 1,000 people in the audience.  And when I walked up on the platform the night before to back up, the night before I had had a dream and in this dream I was standing in somebody’s dream.  I know that sounds weird, but that’s the only way I know how to describe what I’m telling you.  I was standing in somebody’s dream and I was watching this dream unfold.  And then so the next day when I woke up I knew that something special was going to happen at that service.  When I walked on the platform and I got the microphone and began my portion of the service I said, “There’s somebody here and I said, “Last night or you had a dream that’s a reoccurring dream” and I gave the entire dream.  Little did I know standing behind me in the choir loft was a young lady and she lifted her hand and I called her out and I said “This is the dream you had and she said, “Yes.”  And I said, “Does anybody else know about this dream?”  And she said “Yes.”  And I said, “So you’ve told what I’m telling you to other people?”  She said, “Yes,” and I said not only have you had this dream, but immediately God gave me two more dreams that she had had that were reoccurring dreams and I said “You have had two more dreams.”  I gave her those dreams and then God gave me the interpretation of all three like a story beginning put together that was about her future.  Now on this side of that dream and that interpretation we and her parents have all seen that come to past everything that was spoken in that dream and the interpretations.  But when I said that her and her parents immediately were slain in the Spirit on the platform, and God began to move in the gift of word of knowledge and word of wisdom and word of prophecy throughout the congregation. Literally hundreds of people receiving you know things from the Lord.  But when those things happen I can literally feel His hand like I felt that day setting in the woods when He put His hand upon my head and said, those words to me, “I’ve called you to the nations.”

Sid:  Out of curiosity, how much faith is involved when you speak a word?  By that I mean do you hear it real clear, is it just an impression; is it a voice?

Shane:  It comes in different ways at different times, back when I was fifteen, sixteen, seventeen years old I would go into sometimes I would go into restaurants for example and the waitress would be waiting on us and I was with my parents and I didn’t know what it was; the church that I was in didn’t teach about those things and so you know I would like for example the waitress I would say “You’re going to have a beautiful baby and his name is going to be Michael or something to that effect.”  And the lady would say “How did you know that I’m pregnant?”  And I said, “I didn’t.”  “Well, I’ve already picked out a name and his name was Michael.”  And I didn’t know what those things were at first so it was so ignorant; I was so ignorant and simple when I approached it.  So there are times that it takes extraordinary levels of faith to step out in courage to deliver what God’s given me.  And other times it almost comes out before I’ve realized I’ve said it and that how I prefer it to happen.  But then there’s abundance of times where I’ve been in places and God just used me to preach the word, and not necessarily flow in word of knowledge and word of wisdom and word of prophesy. When I’ve asked Him about that He said, “Is not My word a word of knowledge, a word of wisdom, a word of prophesy.”  And I’ve said, “Yes, it is.”  And so you know it just flows at different levels, the Bible says that those gifts are given by the Holy Spirit to everyman severally as He wills.  So they’re not something you can turn on and off like a waterfall, they are something that if you’ll surrender to and submit to the Holy Spirit will use you in and I believe He’ll use every believer in that given the opportunity to flow through them.

Sid: … You literally have prayed over this book that people that read the book and learn how to worship would be able to enter the throne room just like you; would be able to live in the throne room 24-7.  Are you getting any feedback from people that have heard your 3 CD series called “Living in the Throne Room,” or read the book “Secrets of the Well?”

Shane:  Oh sure, right now thousands of people have purchased and read that book and listened to those messages you know intimacy with God is the key…

Sid:  Now a one new man should have their own Bible, and that’s why I’m delighted to be interviewing Bill Morford today on the brand new fresh translation of the entire Bible called “The One New Man Bible.”  And the thing that is so wonderful to me is that he has the approved Hebrew Scriptures. It was a publication that was published by the Hebrew Publishing Company, it would be approved by any Jew in the world and that’s what he uses the bases of his Hebrew scriptures.  And then the New Testament, what did you use as the bases of that, although it is a fresh translation you still needed a Greek Translation, what did you use for that?

Bill:  I used the fourth addition United Bible Society Greek text.

Sid:  Now why did you choose that?

Bill:  Because it’s the newest, the latest, the United Bible Society is a group that meets in Germany, but their multinational. And they have made their life work to be searching the ancient Greek manuscripts to determine which ones are closest to the original.  They use methods similar to that used in researching the Greek Classics, but it’s called textual criticism. But that’s the most accurate that we have and the closest to what was written in the first century.

Sid:  Okay, so you have this approved Jewish Scriptures; you have the best Greek translation; you study Greek under a top expert; you study Hebrew under the expert of experts Rabbi Eliezer Ben-Yehuda.  Who is the grandson of the man Ben Yehudah who’s the grandson of the man that literally pioneered Modern Hebrew in Israel.  Without him we would not be able to have one language for all these Jew coming from the four corners of the earth that are being restored.  Why was it important for you to bring out the power that was formerly neglected in the New Covenant, why was that important for you to bring it out?

Bill:  God is very very powerful in the way He talks and the way that He directs people.  One of my favorite examples is when He spoke to Moses.  He said to go into Pharaoh; He didn’t say plead with Moses “Let My People go.”  What He said was go in to command them, “Send My people away.”  I mean that makes a world of difference and you can imagine for a slave Pharaoh could behead without having second thought going and standing in front of Pharaoh and giving him a commandment to do something that Pharaoh very definitely did not want to do.  And yet Pharaoh could see that the Spirit of God on Moses and on Aaron and he did not kill them obviously; and he even said pray for me, so Pharaoh was intimated by God’s presence in Moses and it doesn’t show when he goes in and pleads with Moses.  But when you understand that Moses didn’t go into plead with Pharaoh Moses went in there to command him and that’s just to me one of the most awesome statements in scripture.

Sid:  Well as I’m looking over your fresh brand new translation, you deal with things that most of us that are listening right now don’t have a clue, but it’s so important.  For instance, you have the Hebrew negative and imperative tense do not in bold, explain why you did that.

Bill:  Because this is one Rabbi Ben-Yehuda was very strong on, he said that there’s no comparative to the Hebrew negative command, the negative imperative that the closest I can come with is don’t even think about doing.  But it’s even stronger than that, and it’s used a number of times.  In fact one of the words that is often missed translated is the Hebrew word for respect, revere or awe and we translate it as fear.  Well God commands us not only not to have fear, He commands us to not be in awe at any of our enemy, any of our dangerous circumstances.  Any unpleasantness that we have, we are not to be awed by that, we’re to be just take it in stride and it’s a command to do that. Just God wants us to know who we are in Him.  We have to know, we have the Spirit of the living God in us and that just as Moses was taught to go into Pharaoh, we are to approach the world in the same way.  But Moses was the most humble man in the world so we have a question of humility plus self-confidence, that when we know we have the Lord in us, and He is directing us and we are in His perfect will.  We have the strength and the ability to do anything.

Sid:  Now why is it important for a Christian that isn’t Jewish that’s not in a Jewish culture to understand the Jewish roots of Christianity?  Why is that important?

Bill:  Well, because Jesus was born a Jew, He lived a Jew, he died a Jew. He’s the same yesterday, today, and forever into the future.  We need to understand what He understood; we need to worship as He worshipped; we need to celebrate the holidays that He celebrated.  We just need to copy Him; were supposed to become more like Him.

Sid:  Let me ask you this, you were a Spirit filled believer, you understood Healing, you loved the Lord, but in 1984 when you went to Israel you knew that there was something wrong.  Now that you’ve done all these studies I don’t know how you did it there is some 4,300 footnotes on words and customs and culture, a 170 page glossary.  What difference has it made to your life Bill Morford?

Bill:  It has increased my faith; increased my understanding with God; increased my understanding of scripture as I can relate it more to my life today.  And it has given me more power in my prophetic words. I am ordained at Christian International under Bishop Hammond and we do a lot of prophecy.

Sid:  Bill, I understand why you’re so excited about the Jewish roots. For instance, the average Christian doesn’t know unless they had your Bible of course that communion literally comes out of Passover, explain that.

Bill:  Oh, that’s beautiful it comes from Exodus 6 verses 6 & 7, and what we do when we’re taking communion it’s given properly in Luke 22 starting with verse 17.  When Jesus lifted the first cup what He was referring to from Exodus 6 verse 6 is God said, “I will bring you out from Egypt.”  Which to all of us modern Christians means that He is bringing us out of the world, Egypt represents the world, the worldliness which were supposed to be…

Sid:  Wait, well for starters some may not even realize at the Passover meal we have four cups of wine so the first cup means what?

Bill:  I will bring you out from Egypt that God is bringing us out from our desire for worldly things and from the oppression of the world.  And the second cup which is being drunk during the meal is I will rescue you from your bondage and that’s deliverance from all demonic spirits that we have with that cup.  The third cup is called the cup of redemption, and this is the one that Jesus lifted and said “This is the cup of the renewed covenant in my blood which is being poured out for you today.”

Sid:  It’s so much richer when you understand in context and that whole context the first church totally understood but we don’t understand it today.  How can anyone comprehend communion without knowing Passover Bill?

Bill:  Right, you can’t do it; you get the full understanding when you know that. So that is footnoted in the Bible then that’s in, there’s an article in the seasons of the Lord in my glossary on that.

Sid:  You must have studied a lot of Jewish literature to do 4,300 footnotes and a 170 page glossary.

Bill:  That I did, that I did I have a wonderful library now for reference books.  I can just go anywhere in the Bible and backup the things that I have put in those footnotes; they’re very real to me and they’re real to everybody, That’s why this was important.

Sid:  Bill, we’re out of time.