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Our Guest Benny Hinn
SID: Do you know that the same power that raised Messiah Jesus from the dead, can you imagine how much power that was, dwells, lives, tabernacles in you. Yes, in you. It blows my mind, as the teens would say. Tell me about the power of the Ruach HaKodesh, the Spirit of the Living God.
PASTOR BENNY: You know, when you and I were together a few days ago on my program, there was a tremendous exchange between you and I as we talked about the Bible. And the reason I’m so enjoying being, Sid, today is because he understands this. And you need to understand this. The Holy Spirit is the power of the Trinity. God Almighty will do nothing without it. God the Son will do nothing without it. In fact, when the Lord returned on Earth, if you remember when the Lord rose from the dead and walked among his disciples for 40 days, it says, “Through the Spirit he gave commandments.” When the Lord returns on Earth, he will destroy Antichrist by the breath of His mouth. That’s the Holy Ghost again.
SID: The Ruach.
PASTOR BENNY: The Ruach. So the Holy Spirit is the power of Heaven. Think about He is so mighty that He took God the Eternal One and turned Him into a seed. Think about that, how much power that is, and deposits Him in the womb of a virgin named Mary. Think about the power, like you just said, that raised Him from the dead.
SID: Right now through people, desperate people that need a healing, when you have your services, I’ve noticed something. There isn’t just a choir worshiping God. You are worshiping God. The choir is worshiping God. The people are. How important is worship?
PASTOR BENNY: Well worship brings His manifestation to us. And let’s just make this very clear. Do not seek the Holy Spirit. Seek Jesus. When you seek Jesus, He comes. Now fellowship with the Holy Spirit, that’s a different matter. Recognize the Holy Spirit, of course. He is our helper, the Bible says. He is our comforter, guide, teacher, leader. So when I talk about the Holy Spirit, I’m talking about a person who is here to help us and walk with us, and guide us. But the Bible says, “He shall glory. He will glorify the Lord. He will glorify Jesus.” His presence comes when Jesus is glorified. And so when we worship the Lord, the Son of God, the Holy Spirit comes and manifests His presence. And so that’s why it’s important to understand that when you worship the Lord, the Lord becomes real by the Holy Spirit. And when He becomes real, and this is the key, this is what brings miracles, and that is when the Lord Jesus becomes more real than your sickness.
SID: Well I’m going to tell you something. God has spoken to me [about] two conditions just now. Number one, He says there are people whose teeth are crooked. They’re going to be straightened. In fact, you’re going to have any kind of dental miracle you can believe when Pastor Benny prays. Number two, there are people with tremendous pains in your necks, in your back, and any pain in your body, I’m telling you, as Pastor Benny prays, you will be healed. Would you pray for healing right now.
PASTOR BENNY: I would love to right now. I want to, I’m stretching my hands towards you because I want you to come, if you can and place your hands across the screen. All that is, is the atmosphere. Or just stretch your hands towards the, place your hands on where the problem is because all that is, is the atmosphere. Dear Jesus, we come together in simple trust. And right now wonderful Lord, I pray every sickness will be healed, every bondage broken. Let the same resurrection power that raised you from the dead, the power of the Holy Ghost, flow through their body, bringing healing, life, strength and restoration. Skin cancer has just been healed and a lady, Lia is your name. L-I-A, the Lord just healed you of skin cancer. And somebody else with a muscle disease is healed completely. Listen, I don’t have to call you healing. All you have to do is call out His name: Jesus. And whosoever will call on His name will be delivered. Amen.
SID: The word in the Greek means delivered, healed, your sins paid for. Yeshua did it all. That’s Hebrew for Jesus. If you will confess with your mouth, that means speak it out loud, you then will believe in your heart that Jesus rose from the dead. Say this with me. Repeat it. Dear Jesus, I’m a sinner. Against you and you alone have I sinned. I’m so sorry. I believe the blood of Jesus washes away my sins and I am clean. It’s so good to be clean. And now that I am clean, Jesus come inside of me. I make you my Lord. Amen.
Our Guest Dr. James Maloney
Sid: My guest by way of telephone is Dr. James Maloney he’s a Professor at Christ for the Nations in Dallas, Texas. And Jim all this week has been telling me how God has used him in the miracle ministry but we haven’t talked a whole lot about how God uses him in the prophetic ministry. You were telling me when I rudely cut you off because that’s all the time the station would give us on yesterday’s broadcast about the first time you prophesied tell me about that again.
James: Well I was Sid 18 years of age I was young bible school student at Christ for the Nations. The minister that was teaching that evening just said “Any of you students feel led of the Lord to step out and let the Lord use you as a mouth piece.” And so I just stepped out and went up to a young lady and it was a little bit humorous because I put my hand on her forehead and said “Okay God give me a word.” And nothing was coming and then I felt the prompting of the Holy Spirit say “You step out and as you step out then I will fill your lips with My word.” And so it’s kind of difficult because you know you don’t want to make a mistake but I stepped out and when I did the Lord gave me a very specific word of knowledge and a prophetic word for her. And I said “When your mother and father forsake you the Lord will raise you up and you made a decision to come to this school and you even had to…” It sort of rolled out of my spirit.
Sid: Now you could easily be wrong on that.
James: Well I went on to say that she had also given up your fiancée to some to this Bible School but the Lord wants you to know that you made the right decision and the Lord’s got one for you.
Sid: For the first prophesy you really stepping out.
James: Well it was specific and it was great because what she did was she just shook and she just fell on her knees and just began to sob and sob and sob. And said “Lord that’s just exactly what I needed to here that’s exactly what I needed to hear.” And so when that happened it was like I word it this way to the students at the Christ for the Nations, when I share this, rockets went off in my spirit. And I just began to step out and then I did a lot of fasting and I did a lot of praying and I would get a burden or sensing a flow of love or compassion when I look upon a person then I would go to that person and I would pray for them the Lord would give me a revelation. Actually that’s how my wife and I got together because 6 months prior to meeting her personally I’d given her a word.
Sid: What was that?
James: Well I went up to her and told her “I’ve got a word for you.” And so I laid my hand upon her and I said “Truly the Lord saw you this morning underneath the tree by the picnic table and you were crying out to God and you were saying “Will I have a ministry among My people?” And the Lord would say “Yeah My daughter you have a ministry among My people and the Lord would further say “You’ll marry a traveling minister and have 2 children and travel all over the world.” And tears streamed down her eyes and I said “Isn’t that a great word sister God bless you and…
Sid: And you had no thought at that time that would be your wife?
James: I didn’t know who she was no.
Sid: And so you were prophesying about yourself and didn’t even know it.
James: Yeah and latter on I married her.
Sid: Some prophet (Laughing).
James: I tell the students at Christ for the Nations “Don’t you do that same thing.”
Sid: Well I’m going to ask you to take a step out.
James: Sure.
Sid: I want you to take a step out in the Spirit and just speak whatever God shows you.
James: Well I just sense Sid that there are many that are listening that you know there’s so much that you’re going through and in my heart I’m just sensing the compassion of Jesus going through my spirit. And I know that there is somebody listening that you have children and this really breaks my heart children that are laboring under disease or sickness and I just want to the mom’s and dad’s right now to reach out and just in faith maybe put your hand upon the radio and say I want to use this radio as a point of contact. And I believe there is a mom and a dad that has a little boy that has a blood disorder and the Lord wants that little boy to be healed. And I want to say also that there’s a little girl that has a real severe learning disorder and the Lord can touch her mind and quicken her in Jesus name. And I just want all of you to just right now just believe I’m prophesying this you know the Lord loves you with an everlasting love and I decree that He’s the same yesterday, today and forever. He wants you whole spirit, soul and body. And I just speak right now in Jesus name as I reach out to these people that are listening that are being touch with or without a word of knowledge Lord You know where they’re at let these words of knowledge and these words of wisdom create faith for those that are listening because I do sense that there are many that are in need of a touch. I know that right now. I sense that there’s a lady that is under therapy, under chemotherapy right now and she has had already a radical vasectomy and it’s in the lymph nodes and the Lord wants you to be healed. I think that there’s a lady that needs to put her hand underneath her arm there are lumps that are disappearing in Jesus name we’re believing that right now that you are being made whole. And there’s some parents that have I believe a child that has a severe asthmatic condition right now a little boy. And the little boy is around 10 or 11 years of age and this has been a severe problem and the Lord wants that little boy healed, and this is a point of contact and you can pray for him and just receive that healing in Jesus mighty name. I see a little girl that has a severe scoliosis of the spine, this has been debilitating excruciating pain we’ve seen many people healed of this where the Lord has just recreated reconstructed the spinal columns and in Jesus name I believe the little girl needs to grow about an inch and half – 2 inches. And so just right now just agree with me that your little girl is being touched and I just see severe headaches migraine headaches it is incredibly debilitating you need that healing virtue of the Lord right now because this thing is really you’ve labored under it and so we just proclaim healing in the mighty name of Jesus.
Sid: You know I feel the anointing all over my heard right now and that’s telling me that people that need healing anywhere in the head whether it’s specific words like migraine headaches that Jim has just mentioned or whether it’s tumors or anything in your head I tell you it’s yours take it. Hearing, allergies of any sort anything in the head it’s yours in Jesus name.
James: Amen just point your hand on any area of your body you that are listening just any area of your body somebody needs a severe creative miracle within their knee. And I sense that the lady’s got in the back of her knee a swelling in the arteries and blood clots and the Lord… just put your hands behind your knees. Wherever you’re hurting, your vexed, you’re oppressed you’re in pain just put your hands upon it that area because the Lord want to touch you right now and heal you. And we’ve seen 1000’s upon 1000’s no exaggeration of people that people as they laid their body they were set free in Jesus mighty name. And upon your heart somebody needs many of you need a healing in your heart right now your heart is irregular it’s not beating correctly a valve situation, whatever it is on your head as Sid shared just the Lord said I sense just like Sid like a spiritual oil that is just flowing down someone’s head right now like a warmth like a spiritual oil that’s covering them right now. Wherever you’ve got your hands upon your body you’ll sense the anointing there is no distance in the spirit realm Your sending forth Your word and healing me right now and You’re a God that heals Your Jehovah Rapha and just receive that just like a little child and the Lord will touch you and set you free. And many of you will experience an instant miracle begin to do something that you weren’t able to do and I mean it were a knee problem, or you were in accident and you couldn’t move your knee without pain begin to move your knee. Or move your back, bend your back, move that shoulder right now just whatever you weren’t able to do without discomfort or pain just begin to do it and you’ll see that many of you are getting touched I just sense a mass flow of anointing going forth right now in Jesus mighty name.
Sid: Amen boy I sure can feel it just very briefly Jim what do you see happening in the United States in the near future?
James: Well I believe Sid, that that’s a loaded question right there, but I believe that whatever we’re facing domestically and internationally I just think that the people of God as well as the people in the nation they just need to rally you know behind one and another and support and be a person or people of prayer. I believe that we’re going to experience some difficult times, things are being shaken that will shake as the Bible speaks but God is our source and if they’ll just put their eyes upon the Lord they’ll meet all of their need. And I believe that we’re going to experience prayerfully through all of the international domestic issues that we may be facing as difficult as they may be but I’m praying that God will use those things to turn people’s hearts towards Him.
Sid: Will there be a giant revival in America?
James: That’s what I’m believing Sid. I really believe that. I believe that the Bible speaks “Where sin abounds grace does more abound.” But though gross darkness is covering the face of the whole world as it says in Isaiah 60 “Yet the light of God is going to shine.”
Sid: I agree…
Our Guest Larry Sparks
SID: Hello, I’m here with Larry Sparks and I’m going to tell you something. There’s so many people that have been hurt. They’ve been in a congregation that goes too far in the faith arena. They’ve been in other congregations that go too far away from the faith arena. They been in congregations that have gone into error, and what they’ve done is, they’ve thrown the baby out with the dirty bathwater. Well, Larry Sparks was like that and he went through that season. He finally said, “God, there has to be more. God, show me the truth about breakthrough faith.” What did God show you? What is breakthrough faith? Let’s start with that.
LARRY: God gave me a very clear definition and actually gave me a picture of what it looked like, and I like to operate in pictures and illustrations because it clearly shows us, what does this look like? He took me to Mark, chapter 2. There’s a story in the Gospels where there are these four men who have a paralyzed friend and they come to Jesus. It says they heard that Jesus was in town. They heard that He was around, so that tells me, well, we need to be talking about what God is doing, because the testimony is actually what drew them to hear Jesus. They heard Jesus was a miracle-worker, so they bring him…
SID: You know, we don’t need this high-powered PR. All we need is the goods! The world is crying out, ‘I wanna see the goods! I wanna see the real thing!’ I’m not gonna be happy ’til the 7 p.m. and 6 p.m. news, rather than having the junk we see, I want them to say, ‘Someone’s leg just grew out! I mean, it was amputated! It just grew out! We got it documented!’ Now, that is news! That’s good news!’
LARRY: Yes, yes, and the testimony drew them to this house and they saw Jesus there. These four guys had their paralyzed friend, carrying him, but they couldn’t get to Jesus because it was too crowded. So what did they do? This is where I had my breakthrough moment, watching what these four men did with their paralyzed friend. They climbed to the top of the house, they broke through the ceiling, and they lowered their friend down to Jesus. That situation, I mean, could you imagine if that happened in the modern church today? If people brought people, sick people, into the church, broke open the ceiling, lowered them down? If anybody had something to say worth hearing, it was Jesus. If anyone shouldn’t have been interrupted from preaching, it was Jesus. But they interrupted Him; they lowered down their friend, and we know the rest of the story. Jesus said, “Well, your faith has made you whole.” And that really gave me a picture and a definition of faith.
SID: So, when someone says, when the Bible talks about one prayer, only one, that says, “If it be Thy will,” what would you say to them?
LARRY: I would say look at Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ; the same yesterday, today, and forever. Jesus has never changed, and also we see that the Bible says Jesus is the expressed image of the invisible God. What does that mean? It sounds very theological. All it means is that Jesus did everything God showed Him to do. Jesus revealed the perfect will of God. What did Jesus do? He healed all who were sick. He forgave those who had sin. He delivered all who were tormented. Jesus reveals what God’s will is, and so you know, Sid, so many people came to Jesus, even in the Gospels, and said, “Master, if it be Your will, heal me.” I think of a leper, a man who was stricken with leprosy, who came to Jesus and said, “If it be Thy will,” and Jesus said a statement to me that just gives me the answer of…on this. “If it be Thy will”, Jesus said, “I am willing. Be clean.” And I believe the same Jesus today, for those of you who are afflicted and sick and just dealing with things that you know, it’s like, ‘This is not God’s will for me!’ Jesus is speaking to you right now. He says, “I am willing. I am willing to heal. I am willing to deliver. I am willing to remove you from that…take you out of that place of bondage, fear and anxiety.” He is willing, Sid. I believe it.
SID: I have a question. I’m reminded of a young man…you’re young already. You’re 31, but I mean, before that, a very young man that got burned out on religion, and that’s what happened. How in the world do you have passion today? How in the world do you keep pressing in today?
LARRY: There are actually very practical things that I do in my everyday life that help me to sustain passion for God, because I don’t feel like this all the time. There are days I’m sure we all feel it; words like, ‘I feel like my faith is dry, I don’t want to spend time with God, I don’t want to spend time in the Word.’ I’m just being honest, but what I found, and I teach about this all over the place and I see amazing breakthrough, is that there are keys, that when we do these certain things, that fire for God and that hunger for God is immediately, immediately ignited. For one, connecting with testimony. When we actually connect ourselves, when we read or watch videos or expose ourselves to what God is doing…
SID: Time for a commercial. Watch, It’s supernatural! That’s what he’s saying. Go ahead.
LARRY: Oh, it’s true! It’s true! We need to actually feed on the testimony of God because like you were saying, Sid, we’re inundated. We’re inundated. This culture is inundated with hopelessness and bad news, but we are supposed to be constantly feeding ourselves, nourishing ourselves on testimonies of God’s power, of His healing, of deliverance, because they remind us He’s real, and the same God who did in one situation will do again. He’ll do it again.
SID: Do you know what I find? When someone shares a testimony, what God did for them, other people get it!
LARRY: Yes.
SID: It’s sort of, like, it’s contagious. Tell me some other things we can do.
LARRY: Another thing, very simple, and I’m very grateful God did this for me, is, we need to align ourselves with people of like faith, you know, for those close intimate relationships; our spouse, our best friends, those people that we allow to speak deeply into our lives. They need to be people who are pushing us toward God, not pulling us away from God, because there are days and there have been situations in my life. I know I’m talking about faith here; I’ve had seasons where I’ve experienced obstacles and resistance, where I didn’t have faith, but my wife had faith and she is the one who just reminded me of God’s goodness, of who He is, of what He said. She was a person of strong faith. What…I was dealing with weak faith, and having…
So we need one another. We need…we’re desperate for one another!
SID: You teach on declaring and decreeing. What is that?
LARRY: We need to say what God is saying. You know, one definition I give to faith because faith is simply imitating God. What does that look like? There’s a very quick process. It starts with intimacy. It doesn’t start with a principle. It doesn’t start with some formula. It starts with knowing the Father, knowing God, knowing what He’s like, being, just, captivated by His beauty and His person. When we know who He is, we spend time in His presence in intimacy, then we become able to imitate Him. We’re able to say what He’s saying. Our minds become renewed. What does it mean to renew our mind? To think about the things that God thinks about. What does He think about? We just read the Bible. It’s filling our mind with the truth of the Word of God. We say what He says, we think what He thinks, and when we speak what He says, Jesus said, “My Words are Spirit, and they are Life.” I believe that when we actually speak the Word of God, we’re not just stringing together sentences and grammar and verbs and nouns. When we actually speak the Word of God, what He’s saying, power is released. “My Words are Spirit, and they are Life.”
SID: I want power released when we come back. Larry is a student of past revivals, and I tell you, God is the same yesterday, today, and forever. What He did then, He wants to do today, and some of these principles have been buried and lost, but we’re going to bring them to the surface when we come back. Don’t go away.
Our Guest Dr. Pat Holliday
Sid: My guest here in the studio is Pat Holliday. She has a congregation in Jacksonville, Florida. What’s the name of your congregation Pat?
Pat: Miracle Outreach Ministries.
Sid: That’s a pretty good name.
Pat: Yeah.
Sid: But speaking of miracles I forgot to ask you something. You said you were in 1975 you went to Jerusalem and you had a mighty encounter with God to the point where you were speaking in unknown tongues in Hebrew. You don’t speak any Hebrew and you led 25 Jewish people to the Lord and they were actually speaking back to you in Hebrew. You didn’t even know what they were saying, but the one thing that you knew when you laid hands on these people they had a power encounter with God. But God not only healed you in Jerusalem, and by the way let’s provoke a lot of people to jealousy. What did he do with your face?
Pat: He wiped His hands across my eyes and when you’re in the occult it gives you dark circles and wrinkles. It took away all of the wrinkles from my eyes and all of my family and my pastor thought I had had a face lift.
Sid: Well but the Lord also told you something about your husband who was unsaved and was he battling cancer at the time?
Pat: Not at that time.
Sid: Okay.
Pat: But at that time he was battling his disk in his back and half of his body was paralyzed.
Sid: Oh my goodness.
Pat: And then God healed that and then later the cancer.
Sid: Well he got healed from that what happened with the cancer?
Pat: Well when the cancer came the Lord told me that he was going to live and at that time I didn’t believe it because I knew what the doctor said. So he did live, I told Shambach when he came to town that “Well he can’t die because he sleeps in the bed with me and the anointing keeps him alive.”
Sid: (Laughing)
Pat: But what happened is he lived 18 years after the Lord healed him from that cancer.
Sid: What kind of cancer did he have?
Pat: It was just in the stomach. All of the doctors were just amazed because he was in the pharmaceutical business and they knew him very well. So he survived that. But what happened to me, I was traveling and evangelizing in the Caribbean and having a ball of my life. But my husband said “I know I’m healed but I don’t want you to leave me,” you know he was insecure. So I gave up my evangelistic ministry at that time and joined Dr. Eboni in Jacksonville who is my present pastor and taught in the seminary for 8 years. He used to have a miracle service coming out of his church. So it’s like the Lord took me out of sight for all of this time but it was during this time that I wrote a lot of books that are going to be published.
Sid: So in affect there are a lot of people that have been on the shelf for a long time that God is now bringing up. Are you available to speak in churches… But Pat very few Christians understand the deliverance ministry. At the time that you got into it who taught you, I mean you read a book, you read a simple book on deliverance to get free yourself but you literally learned by the Spirit of God.
Pat: By the Spirit of God.
Sid: Tell me about one deliverance.
Pat: There was a group that came from church to swim in the pool and to be baptized and after the meeting 2 young boys stayed back. This one your boy that was like retarded and so his brother said “He needs a miracle.” And I said “Well God can give him a miracle. And I touched him and he fell out under the power. And back in those days everybody wasn’t moving with that anointing only Kathryn Kuhlman and a few people. You know Sid she said “This is going all over the world and the devil cannot stop it and that’s what she was talking about was the slaying power of the Holy Ghost. And so I was explaining to this boy what had happened. And I said “Oh he fell out under the Spirit God’s going to heal him.” This boy says “Mrs. Holliday I was at a prayer meeting the other night and I was on the floor and they were trying to cast a devil out of me and I was hitting my head up against the furniture” and he said “I just can’t get it out of my mind.” I said “Well let me pray for you God doesn’t want you tormented like that.” And I touched him and he fell down on the floor and his whole face started contorting and I had read a few books by then and so I said “You come out of him in the Name of Jesus” like that. And the spirit left and when he came up off the floor his face was just shining like Moses when he came down the mountain. You know Sid God used to bring people to my house from counties away and they would knock on my door and they said “Jesus told me come here that you could help me.” And I’d look at them and I say I don’t know what to do” you know. But they would come in and the Lord would tell me what to do. And I had seen homosexuals delivered, lesbians, I had seen anything and everything that you could think of. And back in those days preachers were saying homosexuality you were just born that way. Well it’s a demon, that’s all it is it’s a demon just like AIDS. And I can tell you cancers a demon too I’ve cast it out many times.
Sid: Let me ask you a question, there seems to be a new phenomena, if you will, a new trend going on today. Young children are taking antidepressants or they’re hyper and they have to be given Ritalin and all of these drugs. I think it has something to do with what is invading the home on television. Invading the children through movies, what do you think?
Pat: And Harry Potter, I believe it’s real because we had a young man to come to the church Friday and he was totally demon possessed 6 years old.
Sid: Six years old!
Pat: And he was totally, I’m telling you like an adult. Totally demon possessed and God delivered him, but the children…
Sid: One of my secretaries was telling me about a young boy that his parents don’t even know these curse words was cursing like a sailor.
Pat: Hmm, hm.
Sid: It was a demon.
Pat: And they’re picking it up off of these cartoons also on television.
Sid: Oh, these cartoons are so New Agey.
Pat: And witchcraft, it’s just loaded.
Sid: But what about movies like “Lord of the Rings?”
Pat: Well “Lord of the Rings” is a movie that is really bad, it’s got a lot of demonology in it. And it’s twisted if you understand, it’s a mixture of Christianity a little bit.
Sid: So why do pastors say it’s wonderful, national radio pastors.
Pat: They just don’t know any better. Do you know that there were some national radio pastors that said that “Harry Potter” was okay?
Sid: Oi vey!
Pat: If I told you I know what that means Sid I used to date a Jewish man. Oi vey.
Sid: Oh okay.
Pat: But see they don’t know because what they’ve done is they’ve taken a little portion of the Bible and they beat it and beat it for the money. And some of them are living sumptuously like kings and queens and they’re calling for the people to give them the money. The people give them the money thinking that they too are going to be rich. And…
Sid: Your just talking about the gospel of greed.
Pat: Yeah.
Sid: That’s what I call it.
Pat: Exactly.
Sid: I call it the gospel of greed and I wonder sometimes if Christians were to give money to expand God’s kingdom if they knew they wouldn’t get a reward until they got to heaven. And you know what if they feel they need the reward in this life. And by the way the scripture says they will, but if that’s why they’re giving it’s the gospel of greed.
Pat: I agree.
Sid: I don’t know how we got there but…
Pat: But the point is that’s the majority of what’s being taught. They don’t teach about Jesus, they don’t give altar calls, they don’t ask them to come up and be healed.
Sid: Well many of them do but still there’s a mixture there. Pat let me ask you about someone that is depressed all the time could that be a demon?
Pat: It could be a demon from the outside of a person or from the inside of a person. And demons of oppression and depression are some of the most serious demons because the person loses life, they lose their joy, they get twisted image of Jesus. But it can easily be cast out, it’s the easiest thing.
Sid: That’s the sad part they don’t have to take an antidepressants and get medicine the rest of their life.
Pat: Yeah, they don’t have to take it anymore.
Sid: But most pastors unfortunately either have this doctrine that a Christian can’t be oppressed or have a demon, or they don’t know anything about it, or they’re afraid of the whole deal.
Pat: That’s right and if they look at what’s going on in their church they’ll know something demonic is happening because people are not sitting and stable under any pastor today they’re going from one little field to the other.
Our Guest Dr. Pat Holliday
Sid: My guest right here I the studio Pat Holliday from Jacksonville, Florida where she has a congregation. And we’re talking about a subject that has literally swept under the carpet in most dignified congregations unfortunately. A third of Jesus’ ministry was casting demons out of people. So where did these demons go? Did they no longer exist? Are they only in foreign countries? I think that they’re just a little more sophisticated here in the United States. Now you told me that within the last year you’ve had at least 5 pastors call you, tell me about that.
Pat: Well they come and they’re in trouble spiritually because they have ignored one third of the Lord’s ministry of deliverance. What happened one of them called me and he said “I want to come over to the church tonight,” he said “I have been a Pentecostal preacher for 15 years.” He said “I’m out of the ministry I was going to kill my son tonight.”
Sid: But that is so hard for me to believe, I know you so I believe it but that is hard for me to believe Pat.
Pat: Yeah, and he said “But the Lord spoke to me and He said “If you cross that line I will never speak to you again.” So he said “What can I do?” He said “Go over and see Pat Holliday.” And he came over and we ministered to him, his son’s still alive. He’s not back in the ministry at this point but his son is still alive. Then I had a man, a pastor, to come to the church one night and I came early, I never come early. And he was just sitting out in front of the church and he said “Pastor would you minister to me?” I said “Sure,” so I took him in the church and Jezebel had come into his church.
Sid: What do you mean by that?
Pat: Jezebel, they’re in… all over the country right now. The devil is sending Jezebel in to make the pastors fall.
Sid: You mean about people with demonic spirits in them.
Pat: Hmm, hm.
Sid: And they’re called Jezebel spirits. So their idea is to have the pastor fall into sexual sin.
Pat: Exactly.
Sid: That’s happening by the way all over.
Pat: Yeah, and so I ministered to this this man. He set in front of the front seat during the service and saying “I love this ministry, I love this ministry.” Because you see when you get delivered remember how you felt when you first received the in filling of the Holy Spirit that’s how you feel, you feel wonderful. Your joy comes back; your spirit is strong for God after deliverance. But you know another area that I want to talk to you about is the infiltration of the church. The infiltration of the church…
Sid: By who?
Pat: By witches, they’re coming right in, coming right in.
Sid: So do they come in disguised as an angel of light?
Pat: They come in disguised as Christians, sometimes they give the biggest tithes. Sometimes they’re the ones…
Sid: They’ll make them a deacon any day.
Pat: They’ll make them a deacon and they’ll get the Children’s Church. Now…
Sid: I have actually interviewed people that were formerly witches that taught Sunday school.
Pat: Amen.
Sid: Unfortunately.
Pat: See, I used to visit over at this big church and there was a woman, a young girl actually and when I would come in she would run from me and she was the teacher of the children. And so one night Lester Sumrall came to town and I went over to see him.
Sid: I knew Lester boy did he have a dynamic deliverance ministry.
Pat: Amen. So she made the altar call and there were two of three elders around her praying. And so she had her eyes closed and so when I saw that her eyes was closed and she couldn’t run I just jumped up and ran up there, the pastor knew me very well. Laid my hands on her and cast that spirit out. And you know what she told the church, her confession was I belong to the local coven and I was teaching the children in this church. And when Pat Holliday came in here I knew that she could see me. And I ran from her but tonight I got free.
Sid: You know Pat I know the Holy Spirit has taught you a great deal about deliverance, but I image you learned a lot when you went to a number of third world countries especially Africa. You wrote a book about one man I believe a 4th generation witchdoctor. In this book I read this that he literally could turn when he was a witchdoctor he could turn into an animal. Is that true?
Pat: He could turn into 5 different animals which is very common in witchcraft.
Sid: I have heard this from… I have actually heard this from a man by the name of David Hogan in South America. He said he literally saw a witchdoctor on a motorcycle turn to half animal and half man before his eyes. Now people think he’s crazy.
Pat: Yes, but you see those deep generational witchdoctor… there’s things that just shocked me and I had been in the deliverance for 30 years when I went over there. But I can tell you that I have testimonies from other people from those counties that they say that this is true aside from this man that I wrote the book about.
Sid: Tell me one unusual deliverance in Africa.
Pat: Well there was so many. There was a man that they carried in and they sit him over to the side. Now Sid witches can steal your mind, okay. They work in the mind. So a witch had stolen this young man’s mind and he was like a lunatic and they were just sitting him there holding him. So the Lord showed me that he needed prayer for his mind. So I went over and I laid my hands on him and cast out the spirits that were controlling his mind. But then the Lord… Have you ever heard of Wynn Whirly?
Sid: I’ve interviewed him man many years ago.
Pat: Well Wynn Whirly was the first person that I ever heard talk about the fragmentation of the mind.
Sid: Do you think a lot of insanity is based on that?
Pat: Exactly, I do. So what the fragmentation of the mind is the devils take the mind and they keep that part of the mind that they take. And so what I did is I called his mind back from the north, east, south and west and commanded the witches to release it and that man is sane today. I had another one the same way that and that boy’s in college, and the other young man is working in Brother Kanco’s Ministry.
Sid: This was the man that was a 4th generation witchdoctor.
Pat: Yes.
Sid: We’re going to be interviewing him for our television show.
Pat: Wonderful. You know when you go to his church there can be 25 to 30 witches sitting in there challenging him. And what happens is and me too when I go there. When you get under the anointing Sid what happens the demon’s start manifesting. His workers just bring them down to the front and they will just hold them on the ground and you just cast them out.
Sid: Hm.
Pat: Very easy.
Sid: I would imagine there’s got to be some of the greatest miracles going on in a church like that.
Pat: You know they just recently had… they brought a man to him that was in the morgue and God raised the man from the dead. When you go…
Sid: Now this isn’t the Reinhard Bonnke had a guy, it isn’t the same one.
Pat: No, this is a different one, this is Kanco that’s going to be on your show.
Sid: Oh, okay.
Pat: And he’s seen 1000’s of miracles and when I go over there I see 1000’s of miracles. I see miracles everywhere I go to be honest with you in America.
Sid: Listen if the demonic realm can turn a man into animal, how much greater power in the Name of Jesus?
Pat: That’s right.
Sid: You know I think it’s time to…how fearful should a Christian be of a demon?
Pat: Not at all, but you know when I’ve got films of me over in Africa with the witches running from me.
Sid: (Laughing)
Pat: And America running from me.
Sid: Well when you do our television show we’ll let them see that on “It’s Supernatural Television.”
Pat: You see they shouldn’t be but they’re afraid because they don’t have teaching.
Sid: The only reason a Christian fears is because they have a lack of knowledge.