It's Supernatural

Hello, Sid Roth here, and welcome to my world, where it’s naturally supernatural. My guest recently had a five-hour encounter with Jesus. It will change your entire understanding of Christianity. Next.

Sid Roth has spent over 40 years researching the strange world of the supernatural. Join Sid for this edition of It’s Supernatural.

SID: Now, my guest Kevin Zadai has been a guest a number of times, but I have to tell him, I love talking about in 1992, he went, minding his own business, to the dentist, and he died in the dentist’s chair, but he went to heaven and he came back with a supernatural sign to prove to the skeptics he really went to heaven. He plays 14 musical instruments. He played zero when he went to heaven. 14, it would take a lifetime for someone to know how to play 14 musical instruments. I guess you’re the most shocked that you’re able to.

KEVIN: Yeah. It’s proved to me all the time, Sid, in fact, I’m working on my 15th now.

SID: Well, you heard a voice and God said that his voice is heard in the secret place. Everyone wants to hear God’s voice. What is the secret place to you?

KEVIN: Well, I saw that the secret place is actually in the throne room of God, and it’s next to where the cherubim, or there’s a cherub on each side of God and it covers him with wings. And they’re huge. And it’s just like the mercy seat in the Old Testament when he built the arc of the covenant. And if you get right there in the shadow of the most high, where those wings are, then that’s your dwelling place. And there, there’s no hindrance, there’s no disease, there’s no other voices except God’s voice. That’s the secret place. And we have been given access through Jesus Christ. We can sit with him in the heavenly realm, but I can tell you that we have all been bought that place through Jesus Christ. Jesus said, “I bought this place for you. This spot in heaven is for you.” And he said, “You can come here anytime you want and sit with me and you can hear God’s voice and take it back with you.”

KEVIN: He said, “You can know my will and bring it back to you.” That’s what we’re supposed to do in prayer is go to…

SID: Can we literally feel, when we go to the secret place, what you felt when you died and went to heaven?

KEVIN: Without a doubt. See, I was in the same spot, Sid, and when this happened to me, I was taken to that place. And I realized that we were all supposed to know this place. This was supposed to be our home. And this is where we’re supposed to abide. There’s no devil in hell that can come into that place, and that’s why we need to be there so we can hear God’s voice. It’s very clear there.

SID: When I hear secret place, I heard what you said, but when I hear secret place, I think it’s the area I go to pray. But you say that’s just the start.

KEVIN: Well, you know, honestly, Sid, we’re seated within a heavenly realm, according to Ephesians 2:6 and also in Colossians chapter three. And I’m telling you the truth. That’s where we’re supposed to pray from. We’re supposed to pray from heaven to the Earth. We’re supposed to bring back with us what’s there and make the kingdom of God that is in heaven, make it on the Earth, we’re to yank it here violently. That’s what I do in prayer. I demand that the kingdom of God come on the Earth as it is in heaven. And that’s prayer to me. Prayer to me is his transformation, which means I transfer from the other realm to this realm.

KEVIN: I see my prayers answered because I already see it in heaven. It’s mine. And that is true faith. It’s a substance of things hoped for, and the evidence of things not seen. This is easy. You can teach a three year old to believe this.

SID: That’s our problem. We’re not three.

JOAN: Yeah.

Woman #3: And I did.

 JOAN: Yeah. Okay. And how many years ago was that?

Woman #3: It was 1991.

JOAN: Oh my goodness. That’s a long time not being able to hear correctly. That’s a long time going on. Are you believing with me that she’s going to get healed right now?

People: Yes. Amen! Amen! Hallelujah!

JOAN: All right, we’re not only going to see it but we’re going to hear it!

People: Hallelujah! Yes!

JOAN: We’re going to hear her ear open! Okay?

People: Hallelujah!

JOAN: I believe that! We’re going to hear the ear open. All right. Now I want you to put that by her ear. All right. [spits in one hand] Now I’m going to spit in my hand. [spits on, other hand] I don’t know why that happens but –

Woman #3: Whatever it takes.

JOAN: Whatever it takes. All right? Are we all ready? Pray.

People: [praying]

JOAN: Don’t lay your hands on her. Okay. All right. God, I bind the spirit of deafness in Jesus’ name. Father, in Jesus’ name. Father. Move that microphone back. Father God, I give You praise and I give You thanks in JESUS’ mighty wonderful name! What did you feel? What did you feel? What did you feel?

Woman #3: I felt like I felt a pop. 

JOAN: You felt like you saw a pop or you heard a pop?

Woman #3: I just felt it. Like a pop.

JOAN: A pop.

Woman #3: Uh-huh.

JOAN: Okay. You heard a pop in your ear?

Woman #3: I just felt it.

JOAN: Yeah, you felt it.

Woman #3: Yeah.

JOAN: Okay. All right, Now here. You close that ear.

Woman #3: Okay.

JOAN: Can you hear me now? Can you hear me now?

Woman #3: Very slightly.

JOAN: Well Father – let’s pray again. Pray again.

People: [praying]

JOAN: God, I give You praise and I give You thanks. Father, I give you praise! God, I give You praise! Father, open it up! OPEN in Jesus’ name! Okay. [claps] Can you hear? [claps] Can you hear that? [claps]

Woman #3: Uh-huh.

JOAN: Yes. You can hear it! Okay, give me this one. [claps] Can you hear it?

Woman #3: Uh-huh!

JOAN: Close that one. [claps] That one’s good? All right. Turn around, baby. Turn around. Let’s just turn her around. Yeah, that’s good. Keep praying, okay? Keep praying. There’s at least 6 other people that your ear has already opened up. I want you to stand up and come here immediately. Whoever you are your ear has been healed and it may not be deaf. It may be infections that you get. It may be some malfunction, whatever it is if you’re having that problem right now I want you to come up immediately! Come up immediately and we’re going to put you in this seat too! Come on up! Yes. Just stand right here. Okay. All right everybody pray.

People: [praying]

JOAN: [spits in hands] O God, I give you praise. God, I give You praise! God, I give You praise! God, I give You praise. God, I give You praise? Your ear? Your ear? Your ear? God, I give You praise! Father, OPEN in Jesus’ name! Can you hear me? Can you hear me?    

Woman #3: Uh-huh.

JOAN: Yeah, she can hear me. Can you hear me? All right. All right. Say “I love You, Jesus.”

Woman #3: I love You, Jesus.

JOAN: I can hear.

Woman #3: I can hear.

JOAN: I can hear.

Woman #3: I can hear.

JOAN: Jesus has healed me.

Woman #3: Jesus has healed me.

JOAN: I can hear.

Woman #3: I can hear.

JOAN: I can hear.

Woman #3: I can hear.

JOAN: A – b – c.

Woman #3: A – b – c. 

JOAN: I can hear.

Woman #3: I can hear.

JOAN: I’m no longer deaf.

Woman #3: I’m no longer deaf.

JOAN: I can hear.

Woman #3: I can hear.

JOAN: In Jesus’ name.

Woman #3: In Jesus’ name.

JOAN: I thank You.

Woman #3: I thank You.

JOAN: And I give You praise, Father.

Woman #3: And I give You praise, Father.

JOAN: I give you praise.

Woman #3: I give you praise.

JOAN: I love you, Jesus.

Woman #3: I love you, Jesus.

JOAN: Thank You, I can hear!

Woman #3: Thank You, I can hear.

JOAN: I have been healed!

Woman #3: I have been healed!

JOAN: I’ll never be deaf again!

Woman #3: I’ll never be deaf again!

JOAN: Thank You, Jesus, for taking it away!

Woman #3: Thank You, Jesus, for taking it away!

GUILLERMO: I will believe that you must go through a process. There’s a lot of people watching, asking questions say for example, I don’t understand why I’m still alive? Because there’s a purpose. There’s a great purpose. And as your purpose is, as your process. The level of your process is the level of your purpose. In other words, if you have a tough process, that is so big. Your purpose is so big and God is about to take you into another dimension.

SID: You know, what? You got the devil running a million different directions. If you’re under a refining process, you could be rejoicing right now because God knows that He can trust you.

GUILLERMO: Yes, yes.

SID: And once you come out of this, you will be so used by God. When we return, talk about being used by God. I want to know about the nurse that operates in miracles when the doctors gave up.

SID: You know, I’ve been in the hospital and I’ve had good nurses and bad nurses, but I’ve never had a nurse like the one that went to your teaching seminar. Tell me what happened to her.

GUILLERMO: You know, said by the grace of God I activated I would say millions and millions of people in the supernatural. This is one of the nurses that captured that supernatural lifestyle. She had an issue with her son. Her son had meningitis and the doctor said there’s no solution. There’s no cure. She rejected. She said, “I won’t accept that.” Prayed for him. God healed, God delivered.

GUILLERMO: Then she said, “Now, I know my purpose in life. To be a nurse and minister to those cases where they come to the hospital, the doctors say there’s no solution so let’s send them to the nurse. The miracle nurse.” They call her the miracle nurse. Those sick people come into her, even people that are dead, and pray for them. They got up from the dead. I mean, that’s what she’s doing in the hospital, now. When the doctors and science can’t do anything, she prays for them and people get healed.

SID: Isn’t that awesome? You say that God will anoint you for your purpose. Not just what you want to do. That nurse was anointed for her purpose. Explain.

GUILLERMO: Okay, we all are anointed according to purpose. In other words, the anointing God’s giving is because there’s an assignment.

SID: What does anointing mean?

GUILLERMO: Anointing means divine ability. Divine power to do the impossible. In other words, Jesus said, “I’m going to give you power to do the impossible.” In other words, but this is not just for big bishops or apostles or teachers, this for every believer. In order for you, and for me, to fulfill my purpose in life, I need that divine power. As a matter of fact, that was the criteria for ministry in the Old Testament. Every person that God called into ministry He said, “You must be anointed.” Even the Messiah. His name is the anointed one.

SID: Is it just for the people on TV to be anointed?

GUILLERMO: No, it’s every believer to be anointed. In other words, you will not be able to fulfill your purpose in life unless you are anointed for it.

SID: Well, what would you say to the person that is watching us right now and say, “Well, I am anointed, but I don’t have the money to fulfill my purpose.”

GUILLERMO: Well, whenever you find your purpose, you find your prosperity. In other words, God supplies needs for a moment, but abundance and excess will come when you enter in your purpose. It’s a lot of people living for their purpose, living for their need. And that’s why most of us as preachers, we need to teach the people purpose because when they find their purpose, they will find their prosperity.

GUILLERMO: I don’t worry about it. If God called you, He will provide. He is the provider. He is the provider.

SID: Okay, now let me tell you something. This apostle is operating in the strongest level of God’s glory that I personally have ever witnessed on him before. And it’s got to do with that recent visitation that you had.

SID: Now, my guest has been in ministry many years, but he had a life changing encounter that has changed his life in the most phenomenal way. And he has been changing as many people’s lives since he had this supernatural breakthrough as he possibly can because frankly, every believer needs this. What is the sin of bloodline iniquities?

BILL: Well Sid, bloodline iniquity is actually the generational transfer of self-will. The word iniquity essentially, when you look at the roots of it, is self-will.

SID: Meaning the opposite of God-will.

BILL: Exactly. Iniquity was what infected the human bloodline from the garden of Eden, even up till today.

SID: So, someone like you could be dealing with a lifetime problem. And number one, it had nothing to do with you. It had to do with an ancestor whose name you don’t even know, and who’s deed you don’t even know, but you’ve been a believer a long time and you’re still dealing with this. And you know you are, you’ve been able to cover it up, but I want to know about how God revealed this to you. Here’s the point I want to make, when you find out how God revealed this amazing supernatural gift that every believer has, it’s not just for what he’s talking about. It is for everything. I mean, everything that you’re dealing with in your life. You had…there’s lots of people that have anger problems…but you had an anger problem as a young child. What did you use to do?

BILL: When I was just a little guy at the toddler age, my mother told me that I would get so angry and frustrated at certain times, I’d get down on all fours and beat my head on the floor until I had a bruised place on my forehead. Now, that’s not natural or normal behavior for a toddler. And obviously, as I got older, I grew out of that type of behavior but I still had a very serious problem with very intense anger, a short fuse. I’m not just talking about getting mad at stuff, I’m talking about literally going nuclear with my emotion of anger.

SID: You know, it’s hard to believe because I don’t know you well, but I’ve spent time with you yesterday. I don’t see that person. I don’t even see it under the surface.

BILL: The iniquity is gone. When I got born again in 1977, that anger didn’t leave me. Now, there were some sins that I was involved in that I got completely delivered of. I literally had a love affair with tobacco, and I’d eat it, smoke it, chew it, you name it. I loved tobacco, supernaturally delivered from that. I was supernaturally delivered from alcohol. I was a borderline alcoholic at the point that I got born again at age 22, but the anger didn’t leave me. It was just as strong after I got born again as just what it was before. So, my wife and I were married in 1982 and she became the brunt of my short trigger. And the first five years of our marriage were not fun. I realized if I don’t get a handle on this, I’m going to destroy my marriage. So, I cried out to God and asked him, you’ve got to help me with this.

Well, he began to teach me how to use my faith to control the anger, but I wasn’t delivered from it. And as long as I stayed strong in the word and strong in faith and didn’t let up on it, I’d be able to catch myself and not let the anger run wild. But if I ever got lazy in the word or tired, then that thing would take over again, and obviously that—

SID: And here you are in ministry, you’re a believer all these years and you cannot get a grip on this anger.

BILL: Exactly.

SID: What did you think was going on?

BILL: Well, I had all kinds of thoughts about it. I thought maybe I’ve got a devil or whatever. I didn’t know. I was willing to go through whatever kind of deliverance I needed to go through to get free from it, but—

SID: But you wouldn’t have gotten free with what most Christians call deliverance.

BILL: No, no, because it wasn’t a spirit. A spirit was taking advantage of the iniquity that gave him the legal right to.

SID: It’s a legal thing.

BILL: It’s a legal thing.

SID: You did nothing wrong.

MARILYN: Do you know healing is the “bread of the children.” Isn’t it? That’s what Jesus said. So we’re going to eat some bread early, because healing is for us in a daily way. Plus all believers are to lay hands on the sick. Not just certain names, and I know there are healing evangelists, I don’t argue with that. But all believers are to pray for the sick. So this is what God wants us to do. And let me tell you it’s hard for people to argue with a miracle. A Buddhist gets healing, his ears are opened that are deaf are you’re going to tell him that Jesus doesn’t heal? Too late, right? So I have found that healing works in every country. With the Hindus, every religion. Healing works with the Muslims. Healing works with the Buddhists. I’ve done healing meetings in China, getting ready to go again and it works with the atheist.

Because when you get a miracle you know and you’re praying in the name of Jesus it’s Jesus who gave you the miracle. So many, many people get saved because they receive a healing miracle. And it works right here. People say, “Well, you have greater miracles over there.” Not really. I have bigger crowds so I have more miracles. But I don’t have greater than here. And let me just share with you how important it is for you to heal the sick. When I first began to travel, you know women didn’t teach, you know they didn’t teach the Bible, they didn’t do those kind of things. When I first got involved with television was in Denver Colorado. I had to meet with a board, nine men, and I was going on channel, I wanted to go on channel 9, and so they looked at me and they said, “Well, we can tell you are not television material.”

AUDIENCE: (LAUGHTER)

MARILYN: They said, “You should stick with the radio, you’d never make it in television.” But I knew in my heart God wanted me to do this. Now remember, this is” the only people I know who were on at that time were Billy Graham, Oral Roberts and one pastor in our city. But when God is for you, who can be against you? Put your hand on your hearts: [say] I won’t forget. God is for ME! So who can be against me! So a Catholic man spoke up, he said, “Oh, I think we oughta try to her, I think she’ll pay her bill.” So here I am, 42 years later, none of those men are in television, I still am!

AUDIENCE: (LAUGHTER)

MARILYN: See this is the key thing, that He’s for you. So point to yourself again, say: I won’t forget. (Audience says “I won’t forget”) He is for me. (Audience says “He is for me”) Now I didn’t start in a big flashy way. I was invited to a small Assembly of God church in New Jersey. And I said to the pastor this was my first time to speak in a church. I had never spoken in our church, not that my husband wouldn’t have let me, we didn’t even think of such a thing, so we were shocked when I got the invitation. And so I said to him, “How long do you want me to speak “cause I’m frightened?” And he said “As long as you’re anointed.” He said, “And when you’re not I want you to sit down. And if you don’t I’ll tell you.”

AUDIENCE: (LAUGHTER) Ooooh.

MARILYN: Wow! I was wiped out with this to start with. So I got up, I’m preaching, and way at the back, and they met in a gymnasium, was a man in a wheelchair. I could only see him from here up, and why I did this? I said, “In the name of Jesus, get up and walk!” This is during the sermon. Well he didn’t walk. So I got really anointed, really loud, “IN JESUS NAME, GET UP AND WALK!” He didn’t walk. And the assistant, one of the assistant pastors was standing beside him. I said, ‘dave get him up!” And Dave went” [shook his head no) I said, ‘Dave, where’s your faith? Get him up!” He said, ‘marilyn, he doesn’t have any legs.”

AUDIENCE: Oh God, Noooo! (LAUGHTER)

MARILYN: That’s was the way I started my healing ministry.