It's Supernatural

Sid: Image if you were in a church service, as my guest Bruce Allen was in and they see a man and he’s got holes in his hands and they realize its Jesus.  What happened next?

Bruce: Well, as we left off previous message there, they were in the bathroom, they brought him a red T-shirt and a glass of water.  When he took off his shirt, they saw this hole in his side and the piercings in his hands and he looked like he had been whipped with a cat- a- nine tails.  But their eyes we blinded; they just thought this man had been severely mugged.  I mean that he’d been out and something had happened.  So they brought him into the service and I was up teaching.  They brought him in on the left and they sat in front.  And at the end of the service, the medical doctor who was also an elder in the church, the pastor said go over and ascertain from this gentleman what it is that he needs in prayer.  Well when the doctor went over and looked at him he thought that he should be taken immediately to the emergency room, he looked like he was on deaths door.  So the Pastor walked over and I’m watching this because I have turned it over to the Pastor at that point.  The Pastor walks over and begins to dialogue and says, “Brother, come up to the front so we can pray with you.”  Well, when the man stood up he walked bent over like he was under a heavy weight.  Now, just picture Jesus carrying the cross, and so as they’re walking up he turns to the man and says, “In the Name of Jesus, I command strength to come, stand up straight.”  And immediately the man stood up straight and this beatific smile came upon his face, and they came up to the front and dialogued and prayed a little bit and so after the prayer they said, “Well, Pastor, what do we do with him.”  He said, “Well, here’s some ringgit, he can get a taxi and get a meal.  He said, “No, I don’t need your money.”  You got to understand, they think this man is just been on the street, he’s beat within an inch of his life he’s been mugged.  This lady who had been watching from the back came forward and said, “Here’s fifty ringgits,” he said,” No thank you, I don’t need your money, and out of pockets in each side he had a thousand ringgits freshly minted bills.  And they were shocked, they went, “Whoa.”

Sid: Now which country is this the currency from?

Bruce: Malaysia, Kuala, Lumpur, Malaysia.

Sid: Alright, go ahead.

Bruce: So they said, “What do we do?”  Well, take him down stairs and get him a taxi.  And so the Pastor his wife and I left and we went out to fellowship afterwards.  They took this man downstairs, now there in the guard gate and, this is in an industrial area so the street you have to walk for at least a thousand yards before you’re out of sight.  The guard, he’s in the guard shake, the guard because it’s raining, the guard get’s on the phone, looks to his left, turns back and he had vanished into thin air.  Well, on the way home that night the Pastor began to dialogue with the Lord, and say, “You know what Lord, I don’t understand, we prayed and believed according to that word that you would give us a sign and You never showed up and immediately the Spirit of God said, “Oh, yes I did.”  And this man’s face flashed in his mind’s eye and he pulled over to the side of the road, and he called his elder and he said, “Where did this man go?”  He said, “Well, it’s funny you should ask Pastor, because this is what happened, he had vanished right out of the guard shack.”  So the Pastor for two hours drove all over looking for this man.

Sid: I imagine so.  One of the things you talked about eight hundred people seeing Jesus in the congregation.  Tell me about when you teach whole groups get caught away in the spirit, explain.

Bruce: Oh yes, sir, my passion is that people understand that it is they’re birth right not only to see into the realm of the Spirit, but actually to go into the realm of the Spirit.  Basic scripture on that is John 3:3 “When Nicodemus came to Jesus at night, Jesus said, Nicodemus unless a man is born again he cannot see the Kingdom of God.”  What He was saying, Nicodemus if you’re born again you can see the kingdom of God. And in another instance John 14:12 Jesus said, “The works that I do you’ll do also.  And in John 5:19 He said, “I only do what I see; now that’s  just a couple of scriptures.  Therefore because I can do what He does, and He only did what He saw I can see, and so we’ve taught this in many nations of the world that it is their birthright to see.  We pray a prayer of activation and what’s fascinating to me is beginning at that first conference where you saw where I’m transparent, from that time on I had begun to see chariots of fire and on occasion they literally come into the room.  And when I have seen that I know that the people are going to have a supernatural experience and many will be caught away in the spirit.  So there were times where I have taught groups of eighty five, out of eighty five, eighty four had a supernatural experience where they began to experience where they began to see and or were caught up into the Third Heaven.

Sid: And I understand as you teach, you see angels and the people see angels and people receive new mantles.  Tell me about the new mantles they receive.

Bruce: We were teaching in what they call a family camp, a retreat, but over in that part of the world their family camp retreats are five star resort hotels, which is nice.  But so we were teaching this particular message and all of a sudden, into the room there were about 210 people at the camp.  Approximately 220 – 230 angels walked in and they stood behind each individual in the room and every angel had what looked like a royal robe or a mantle.  And so I dialoged this, “Father what are we doing and what do you want me to do?  And He, the short of the story is that everybody was to stand up and as a prophetic gesture, just as a gentleman would put a wrap or a coat upon a woman they were to put it on, make that prophetic gesture.  Well, in that culture, that’s a little demonstrative for them so they were kind of looking at each other out of the corners of their eyes and finally this very dignified elderly lady kind of shrugged and she did that.  What happened is, now, I found out later that she is eighty-six years old, the Kabod of God, that weighty glory that was in that mantle when it rested on her, she felt it come on her and it made her sink, almost her posture was almost like your squatting.

Sid: Yes.

Bruce: And for about half an hour, she could not move.  Now physically even for a strong individual half an hour of squatting is very difficult; but for an elderly, that God changed her life.  Many of the teenagers when that happened began to see into the realm of the Spirit and saw the angels in there.  And just all sorts of sovereign supernatural things began to take place as well as healing and deliverance.

Sid: Now, let me ask you a question because as you talk about the anointing you have to activate people to see in the Spirit and experience these things that you’re experiencing.  Since your book is literally off the press, the title is “The Prophetic Promise of the Seventh Day” which you believe we’re entering into and this is the time that all of the it’s the entrance into it where the promises of God are going to be instant rather than taking twenty-thirty years; what do you prophetically see will happen to people that read your book?

Bruce: It will release and spark within them a revelation and an understanding of their birth rite and their destiny and will provoke them enough that we will begin to see the Body of Christ corporately, not just a select few individuals, the mystical few, begin to walk into the supernatural.  And understand that it’s the normal Christian experience, not the super or abnormal.

Sid: You know I like to say that if we had Christians today like we had at the first church every Christian would have their own television show.  That’s what you’re saying I believe; that we’re ready to enter into that again.

Bruce: Oh, absolutely, absolutely you’re familiar as we talked earlier with seed time and harvest.

Sid: Yes.

Bruce: The Lord showed me the biblical, His heart about seed time and harvest.  If you want more revelation, you give away what you’ve got.  If you want more anointing, you sow what you have.

Sid: Oh, you realize how much revelation and anointing you’re going to get from doing this revelation, show and then my television show?  How many people are going to be receiving it?  How about this book?  Because I know that as I’m reading this book I feel the presence of God and you show, I mean you would convince any biblical student that this is God’s time for the promises to manifest in their life.  I believe their going to see what areas will promises manifest in your opinion?

Bruce: Every area, yeah it covers the whole spectrum of human existence not only in the natural, but in the supernatural.

Sid: You talk about rest in this book; we’re living in such uncertain trying times, “What is God’s definition of rest?”

Bruce: Well, according to the book of Hebrews “There is now therefore a rest for the people of God,” and that rest is ceasing from our own works as God did.  If we look at what God did when He ceased, it was because it was complete, God entered into rest because it was a completion.  People of God, the rest that we’re going to enter into is understanding the fullness the completion of every covenant promise in our life.  It is going to bring us to the place of rest.  We no longer have to strive by the arm of flesh…

Sid: Well, what about the person that’s listening right now and they are about ready to lose their house?

Bruce: The God of all provision is there for the person that relies upon him right now.

Sid: See, I believe we’re coming into such trying times that you wrote this book so that people can move into those promises.

Bruce: Can I share something that’s happened just locally?

Sid: Tomorrow because we’re out of time.

Woman 1: I was very sick and I could not understand why God didn’t heal me.

Man: I felt as if all my prayers were being blocked.

Woman 2: I just couldn’t forgive my father for leaving us. It was like a cancer eating me up on the inside.

Sid: You know, there is a real consequence to sin. There’s a real consequence to unforgiveness. Peter Horrobin, tell me about Sarah.

Peter: Sarah was very badly abused by her father and the consequence of that abuse was long term. But you know, as she was growing up between the age of 9 and 18, she was constantly being used in a sexual and a physical way. When we first met her, she was in psychiatric care because in her late 30s she had completely fallen apart. She could no longer keep all the pain down and it broke out, and she was in psychiatric care, and she was on a lifetime psychiatric disability pension in the United Kingdom. The psychiatrist didn’t believe there was any hope for her. And it was at that point she heard about our retreat and she got permission to come out of hospital under the care of the psychiatrist to come on this retreat. And she learned about forgiveness. She didn’t want to forgive. She’d had a terrible experience. And yet, unless she’d forgive, and she knew that from the Word of God, unless she forgave she would never be able to enter into the freedom that Jesus had for her. It was a long process. But she came to that point of saying, “I choose to forgive.” The psychiatrist, he was amazed when he saw her again. Yes, she wasn’t completely whole. She wasn’t off medication, but she was different. And so he gave permission for her to come for a longer period of time. Three months later, my wife went back to see the psychiatrist with her and he said, “I don’t need to see you again.” She was off all medication. She had been able to forgive, and not only forgive, the healing had been flowing on the inside. Today she is totally restored. Having come from a lifetime of psychiatric disability, she’s now completely whole. She’s more whole perhaps than anybody I had ever known.

Sid: Peter, I am feeling, I don’t know what it is. It’s a presence of God. It’s like honey. It’s smooth. You’re supposed to pray right now for people. There’s an anointing for something special right now.

Peter: There are many people who are watching this who have issues in their life, perhaps people who have been especially abused. They’ve struggled with things in secret, and I’m speaking to you right now. If you know that in your past there are people who have done things to you, unspeakable things, things that perhaps you have never been able to talk about. They’ve robbed of you your future. They’ve robbed you of relationships that have made it impossible for you to live in a normal way. I want you right now to ask God to give you the grace to forgive them, to release them into the freedom of your forgiveness and to say, “I choose now to forgive John, forgive Mary”, whatever their name may be, for whatever it is they’ve done and say, “I release you”. And then ask Jesus to come and heal you. Ask him to come and set you free. Ask him to come and set you free from the powers of darkness. Ask him to let you out of the prison that you’re in so that you can begin to get out into the open spaces of life and begin to enter into your destiny. He will do it. It’s our choice whether we want to ask him to do it. I pray that you’ll have the courage to make that choice.

Sid: The presence of God is so sweet. Tell me about the woman that had her fourth pregnancy and enough was enough.

Peter: This was an amazing story because she couldn’t afford to have another child and she fell pregnant, and she wished this child dead. She wanted it to die in the womb. And so she actually cursed this child to death. The child didn’t die. Many, many years later, something like 40 years later, she was present in one of my conferences and she heard me teaching about the words that we say can bring cursing upon other people. And she suddenly was convicted by the Spirit of God about what she said about her daughter. And she came and asked for prayer. And she confessed of her sin. And I spoke forgiveness to her. And she was just about to sit down when I suddenly heard the voice of God saying, “You’ve got to pray for the daughter.” So I called her back and through the mother I prayed for this woman, who I didn’t know anything about her.

Sid: She wasn’t even there.

Peter: She wasn’t even there. I just prayed that God would set her free from whatever had come upon her in her mother’s womb. A year later back in the same church, this woman came running across the hall of the church with a photograph of a baby. Now here’s this woman. She’s in her mid-60s and I thought, this is a miracle.

Sid: Peter, does this look familiar?

Peter: That’s the baby. And she said, “This baby was born to my daughter. Do you remember praying for her?” And for a moment I didn’t. But then I was reminded and she told me the story that this woman, her daughter, had been married for 14 years and they had been unable to conceive a child and were told that there was no hope whatsoever that they could ever have a child. Within a week of me praying for the daughter to be set free from whatever curses came upon her because of the wrongful words of her mother, she conceived a child, and this woman is so thrilled. She now has a grandson.

Sid: People are being healed right now. Tell them. Speak to them.

Peter: Yeah. As you receive truth into your heart about what God does to other people, you know what it does? It lifts your faith. And as you suddenly can see that if God’s done it for somebody else, He can do it for me. So receive that now. Receive the joy of healing and the joy of healing flows out of your spirit into your soul and into your body. So invite Jesus now to let the joy of his healing flow through your spirit into your soul, into your body as you forgive others, as you confess the things that you’ve done wrong. You know, it says in James, “Confess your sins once and know that you may be healed.” As we bring to God the things that we’ve done wrong that He can bring His restoring life into our lives and give us back our destiny.

Sid: You know, I think it’s interesting. You talk about people have to forgive, ask for forgiveness for what they’ve done. They need to forgive other people. They, some of you need to forgive God. If in one minute, you can tell me a story of someone that needed to forgive.

Peter: Yeah. See, if we blame God for things that He’s not done we’re actually putting Him, as it were, in the jail.

Sid: Stupid!

Peter: Absolutely. Satan is the god of this world, that man through his sin has put Satan in place, and the bad things that happen are Satan’s fault. So if we blame God, what we’re actually doing is saying that God is responsible for the works of the enemy. And sometimes people need to get to that place of saying, “God, I am sorry for blaming you.” You know, there’s many, many people who have had to walk this through. Sarah was one of those. She had to come to that place of saying, “God, why didn’t you protect me?” She was blaming God for the fact that she was not protected from her father’s abuse. And she said, “God, I am sorry for blaming you.”

Sid: “Father, forgive them. They know not what they do.” That was the prayer from the cross. And the moment, the second someone does something against you, say that, even out loud if necessary. Father, forgive them. They’re ignorant. They know not what they do. I want you to see those same people you saw that said they could not forgive, at the beginning of this segment, and here’s what they’re going to say after they’ve forgiven. Look at the change in their life. Same change is going to happen in your life.

Woman 1: See, once I truly, truly forgave them for what they did to me only then did God heal me.

Man: It’s like the heavens are no longer brass. My prayers seem to be getting right through to God Himself.

Woman 2: You’ll never know the freedom that it brings until you learn the importance of forgiveness.

Sid:  My guest is Michael Galiga and we’re talking about my book “The Incomplete Church.”  Why, because it is the message that is so close to the heart of God right now, it’s called the One New Man.  Everything that is going on in Gentile Christianity, everything that has gone on in Messianic Judaism is for this moment in history where John 17:21 becomes true. “I pray that they Jew and Gentile might be one,” one new species of being, “so the world will believe.”  And the same glory when this occurs it’s going to release such a move of God’s Spirit, the same glory that is on Me will be on them, Yeshua, Jesus is saying.  Now in my book Michael, I talk about the Constantine Conspiracy where things were changed in the First Church and I talk about the Rabbinic Conspiracy where things were changed in Judaism.  Isn’t it fascinating the one common denominator in Rabbinic Judaism is you can’t be Jewish and believe in Jesus; and the common denominator in Constantine Christianity is you can’t be Jewish and believe in Jesus you have to become a Christian.  Somehow the Jewishness is being squeezed out and there’s like a wall of separation between Jew and Gentile and one of the things that this fellow Constantine did is he got rid of the Biblical Feasts.  And Leviticus 23:2 God says these aren’t just Jewish Feasts these are My Feasts.  Doesn’t that have a meaning to everyone Michael?

Michael:  It does and it’s amazing, it is really spreading Sid, all over this country; it’s going very quickly not just in Messianic churches, but other churches as well.  You know Davidic type of worship, you know we have The House of David right here in Oklahoma, you know Rabbi Kurt Landry and so it’s spreading very quickly.

Sid:  And the word Feast in the Hebrew means appointments and so if it was translated properly in the English, God says, “These are my appointments.”  Now who would not want to be at a place at the exact time, on time for God’s appointments?  And that same word is even found in the 1st Chapter of Genesis, He said, “He put the sun and the moon out for God’s set appointments.”  And He says these appointments where God promises to show up will be holy convocations and the word convocation in the Hebrew means rehearsals.  So what are these God appointments?  They’re rehearsals of well, the first few Feasts are rehearsals of the First Coming of Jesus, the last Feasts are rehearsals of His Return and where a lot of people have missed it, a lot of Messianic Jews say, “Well if you don’t do it you’re not even saved.”  Now there are many that understand that this is not true, and a lot of Christians say, “If you do those Feasts you are not even saved.”  Now many understand it, but many many don’t, but it looks like two different religions.  But I think we’re coming to the day Michael where the book of Ruth will come to pass; and what happened in the Book of Ruth?  Well, there was two Gentile daughters of Naomi the Jew and one Gentile daughter went back to her gods, here it is in Ruth 1:14, “Then they lifted up their voices and wept again and Orpah kissed her mother-in-law, but Ruth clung to her.”  I love that word Michael, clung to her.  That that is so descriptive, Ruth clung to the Jew, Naomi said, “Look your sister-in-law has gone back to her people, and to her gods; return after your sister-in-law.”  But Ruth said, “Entreat me not to leave you or turn back from following after you, for wherever you go I will go, wherever you lodge I will lodge, your people shall be my people, your God my God.  And you know the thought that’s coming to me Michael, is I was talking in Israel to the director of an exercise spa and he’s a Jewish man and I started witnessing to him; and I said, “You know I do not believe there’s a god for the Muslims, a God for the Jews and a God for the Christians and they’re all three different gods.  I believe in the Shema, I believe there’s only one God, and He has a name according to the scriptures that all three groups respect the Tanakh, or the Torah.  And the name that He has is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, so I believe there is one God.” And he said, “Oh, I agree with you,” and then I said to him, “Just as I believe there is only one God, I believe there is not a Messiah for the Muslim’s, a Messiah for the Christians and the Messiah for the Jews, how could we ever have peace on earth, if there’s three different Messiah’s?”  He said, “Yeah, you got a point.”  I believe there’s only one Messiah and that Messiah is the Jew, Jesus.  And I’m wondering if there’s only one people not traditional Jews, Muslims, Orthodox Jews, the world is either those that are in Messiah, the King of the Jews, Yeshua and those that are not in the Messiah.  It gets pretty simple and when I said to him that I believe the Messiah is the Jew, Jesus and he had to talk to me and he started telling me things about his life and the next day he received the Messiah.  I believe people are looking for answers and just as the world according to scripture is going to have counterfeit one world government and one world religion, you can’t have a good counterfeit unless it’s a counterfeit of the real thing.  And the real thing will be one religion meaning in Jesus, that’s it, it’s that simple.  How does that sound to you Michael?

Michael:  It’s very simple Sid; it’s not hard to understand.

Sid:  And in Leviticus Chapter 23:2 which talks about God’s appointments, isn’t it amazing that so many people think you have to do these, no you do not have to do these Feasts, all you have to do is repent of your sins and believe that Jesus is the true Messiah and has died for your sins and you shall be saved.  But look at the blessings, this is a set time, I mean what would be more important to you Michael, than having an appointment with God that He promises to attend?

Michael:  Nothing.

Sid:  And that’s the way I see it, it’s not a matter of have to, it’s a matter of want to.  And then I’m reminded of Esther, see that was a One New Man, Ruth and Naomi, Jew and Gentile.  And how about Esther and the King, that’s a One New Man, and isn’t it interesting when Esther who I believe is a type of the end time church and I explain this in my book “The Incomplete Church.”…But Esther and the King are One New Man and when Esther a type of the end time church equipped the Jewish people who were about ready to die with the sword, do you know what happened?  The sword is a type of the word of God, revival spread throughout the land.  I mean once this key of the One New Man is open you see it so clearly and I believe we’re coming to the time of what we saw in the first church; and what did you see in the first church?  We saw Peter speak three paragraphs in the Book of Acts and 3,000 Jewish people became believers in Jesus the Messiah after they saw a demonstration of the power of God.  Could you picture these 3,000 Jewish people going into the churches and Messianic congregations and One New Man Congregations throughout the world and I mean it would cause life from the dead, resurrection power in these congregations.

Michael:  That’s exactly right.

Sid:  It’s sort of like you know when there’s a brand new believer it’s so exciting, how about a brand new believer that has never even heard about who Jesus really is, has never put that together, has never read the New Testament, doesn’t know anything except if you’re Jewish you don’t believe in Jesus; which is the big lie.  And what’s going to happen when Gentile Christians start celebrating these Feasts and really believe God that they are set appointments and that God Himself is going to show up when they observe these Feasts and miracles breakout?  Could you picture some of your Jewish friends you telling them what’s going on in your congregation at these Feasts?

Michael:  Wow, yeah it’s going to change things quickly!

Sid:  And incidentally, my friend John Fenn, who I interviewed, he had a revelation of the end time church, he said the end time church is going to look very much like the first church.  Jesus came to him and Jesus said, “You have to start house congregations” and that’s what happened to those first 3,000 Jewish believers, it said they went from house to house.  You have to prepare house congregations to prepare for the times that are coming.

Sid:  Those that know me know that my passion is for people to know the Messiah.  My method has always been the law of evangelism by going to the Jew first.  I’ve actually found that it’s opened up a bigger door of evangelizing Gentiles than going to the Gentile first; now that doesn’t make sense in the natural, but it makes a whole lot of sense in the supernatural.  And I have my new friend Michael Galiga on the telephone. For those that missed the interview that I did with Michael upon completion of graduate school, Michael was trained in the corporate world by some of the best executives in the world.  He structured transactions and consulted for over twenty-five years at the highest levels of the corporate arena, both domestically internationally.  His clients include Citicorp, Sigma, Country of Abu Dhabi, J.P. Morgan, many others and I could go on and on, but he’s a man that understands the times and the seasons that we’re living in.  He’s a businessman that has been arrested, if you will, by God and he wouldn’t have it any other way.  And I was talking to Michael and I found out, although we’re new friends, we really didn’t know each other previously; God down loaded in him the understanding of the One New Man that he down loaded in me.  And I shouldn’t find that amazing Michael, but I do find it amazing and I find many others God is downloading.  Do you know what I believe?  I believe that God is downloading this message in so many people right now because it’s so important for the Body of Believers to understand.

Michael:  Yeah, it is Sid and I look at it kind alike, okay you probably watched the video footage on TV where there pulling the reactor rods out of a nuclear reactor.  When they pull them out, while it’s still functional that allows the reactor to run and create enormous energy otherwise those rods soak up the atomic particles and it doesn’t generate electricity, it doesn’t generate heat or steam.  And every person that gets this One New Man idea that’s like pulling one more rod out the nuclear reactor; each one of us that understands this and grasps our Jewish roots etc. is pulling one more rod it creates enormous energy for each person that understands. 

Sid:  Well, you know I found this out in stages, it’s almost I lived the life of the One New Man, for instances many many years ago as a Jewish evangelist I bumped into what I called the Law of Evangelism.  What I found is when God wanted to reach the world He started with Abraham, the Father of the Jewish people; and when Jesus wanted to reach the world He said, “I go only to the lost sheep of Israel,” not as an end in itself, but He so loved the whole world, that was His method.  And when Paul wanted to reach and whole world, in Roman’s 1:16 “He said I am not ashamed of the gospel, it’s the power of God unto salvation, to everyone who believes, to the Jew first.  If God the Father, if Jesus the Son and if Paul the Apostle went to the Jew first as a strategy to reach the whole world, then why shouldn’t we do it?  And so I was at the Jewish Community Center one day and I was reading through a book of Lost Tribes and I found a place called, Kaifeng, China, and in China there was the silk trade routes and Jewish people were involved in this and many of them immigrated to this little town in China and so I decided I want to go there.  And I did and a Feast of Tabernacles Celebration on a Buddhist shrine and God opened up the whole city to me by way of television and I saw that it’s almost like a supernatural multiplication to reach gentiles when you go to the Jew first and I’ve proven this throughout many years of Jewish ministry.

Michael:  Well, it’s an absolutely true concept and I think that people here, and I can’t speak because I don’t travel the world like you do Sid, I’ve traveled some, but when we go to the Jew first it is miraculous.

Sid:  And something that you mentioned in your notes and there were so many things that you mentioned in your notes Michael that’s why I wanted to kind a team up with you this week and talk about the concept of the One New Man.  You talked about a phrase that’s found in scripture, the fullness of the gentiles, for instance: Luke 21: 24 says “Jerusalem will be trodden down by the gentiles until the fullness of the gentiles come in.  And so we could look at 1967 and say Jerusalem for the first time in modern history is in Jewish possession, so therefore we’re at the fullness of the gentiles.  But then I like to pair it with the other scripture in Roman’s 11:25, in which Paul says partial blindness has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in.  In other words, when we see a move of God’s Spirit Michael that’s a sign that were at the fullness of the gentiles; so we know that the first sign is in Jerusalem in Jewish possession and the fullness of the gentiles I think is going to go full blazes if you will once you start seeing the spiritual scales come off of the eyes of Jewish people.  And God has shown to me all of last year that He is removing the spiritual scales; I went to Brooklyn, New York, Brighton Beach, home of 100,000 Soviet Jews in a ten block radius; 400 Soviet Jews showed up to my outreach meeting; unsaved and the majority of them received the Lord.  And then I said, “Well, it works with Soviet Jews in America, will it work with American Jews that were born in America for many generations?”  And so I went to a little city outside of Los Angeles, California called Oxnard, California and I did the same thing, I ran an ad in the Jewish press, lecture on the Supernatural, on the Paranormal; 400 American Jews showed up and now we didn’t have 400 make professions of faith, we had about 30 make professions of faith, but you know this is kind of unprecedented stuff.  And then I thought what will the same thing work in Israel?  And I went to Israel and I had a meeting of over 100 holocaust survivors; these are Jewish people in their ‘80s; they’re hardened against God because of all that they’ve gone through and I saw miracles there.  I saw the majority of Jewish make professions of faith; these holocaust survivors.  So I have to believe based on what the Holy Spirit has shown me that we’re at the fullness of the gentile age.  What is God showing you about that?

Michael:  Well, he’s showing me that we are at the fullness of the gentile age and I think that 1967 you know is absolutely a line in the sand that we’ve crossed through and Jerusalem is in Jewish hands for the first time in thousands of year.  And one of the most important dates other than 1948 of course, but it’s extremely revealing Sid, because I’m a businessman, I work in the business world all day long, I never went to seminary, I’m not a preacher, I’m not a prophet, but I’m a businessman.  Though as a businessman, it’s even more, I can’t speak for you but it’s extremely interesting to me because it’s kind of the fourth dimension that I think controls this dimension; it’s where God is and that that wall kind of comes down and reaches into our world, at our desk and at our car and in our home and He touches us.  And I believe the fullness of the gentiles has come; it’s shocking to think that it’s happened in my life time, but I’m so glad it has and I’m so glad that I’m here for such a time as this and it’s such an exciting time. 

Sid:  Well, to whom much is given, much is required and I believe that God entrusted his best for this wrap up generation.  In Ephesians the second chapter is where we get this one new man concept from; so Ephesians 2 verse 14 says “For He Himself is our peace “ or the Hebrew word, I know the New Testament was written in Greek, but the Hebrew word for peace is Shalom which means completeness.  And the Messiah is our completeness, we’re complete in Him whole has made both; He’s talking about Jew and Gentile One and has broken down the middle wall of separation.  And then the fifteen verse, “So as to create in Himself one new man from the two thus making and there’s that world peace, shalom, thus making completeness; He’s complete and when the middle wall of separation comes down between Jew and Gentile it makes us complete.  How did this concept even birth within you?  Mine was very gradual, step by step; I got saved by a Jewish believer and I got I got immediately involved in something I’d never heard anything of because there were only one or two congregations in the world at the time; Messianic Judaism and then I started moving in the supernatural.  And then it was just so clear that the key to supernatural is the Jew and Gentile being one in Jesus.

Michael:  Well, it didn’t come gradual to me Sid, it came in an instant; it was in about a thirty second period where I read about this for the first time, it might have been in some of your materials, because I follow you closely; but I just don’t remember where I read it the first time.  It was about two years ago and I read it and it was like a lightning bolt into my heart.  And I said, “That that’s it; that’s the incredible ingredient that’s happening, that’s what I have been feeling I just didn’t know what it was.”  And so it happened very quickly and I went from a standing start to say a hundred miles an hour in less than a minute.

Sid: …it was written as Mordecai said to Esther “For such a time as this.”  And just one scripture in Ephesians 2, I want to conclude with it says “In whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit,” in other words a complete dwelling place for God, the full presence of God.  We’ll get into it more but it’s really spelled out in my book.

Sid:  I just did a prophetic teaching CD with Hank Kunneman, just for our listeners; and the title of this is “The 2010 Prophetic Window.”  And you are going to be amazed at what God has shown this veteran prophet, Hank Kunneman about the future of America, about President Obama, even where to invest, about Iran and Israel.  But I think let’s get to know the man, because as I understand the gift of prophecy the person’s entire life that God uses is a prophetic life.  Hank at age five and I have to tell you, you provoke me the jealousy because I didn’t even know there was a God at age five.  But at age five you heard the voice of God.  And yet, you weren’t even raised in a Christian home, you would once in awhile go to a denominational church, but at age five what did God say to you?

Hank:  Well, I was on the Island of Guam of all places because, of…

Sid: I thought you were going to say on the Island of Patmos, but that’s okay ha-ha.

Hank:  I’ve never said it that way, but I greet your listeners today to God bless them.  But one of the things that the Lord did was I was five years of age and I was sitting there on the Island of Guam, my parents, my Dad was in the Air Force and I sitting there and I heard a voice come to me.  And it wasn’t like in my mind I could hear it speak inside of me telling me, drawing me to the elements of creation and speaking to me about, you know about doing what’s right in life.  Now keep in mind, you know your five years old, God comes and speaks to me in terms that I wouldn’t know and I would understand as a five year old.  And basically the message was that you know, look at creation, introduced himself to me as a creator, but also really put a healthy Godly fear at that moment on at the age of five.

Sid: I wish I had had that; I didn’t have a clue, but at age five coming from a non-Christian home to have that put into you.  What effect did it have on you even as a youngster, five years of age?

Hank:  The effect that it had on my life at that moment was really amazing, because not only did it bring the fear of God upon me where I was always aware of this creator that had spoke to me, but what was interesting Sid, was that I would go into different places and even my Mom would remember this, I would have little old ladies or different ones come up and say there’s something about this young man; God’s hands on his life.  When I would get into junior high and just before I got saved at the age of eighteen people would say to me, “How do you know these things?”  I had a real ability, the gift is without repentance to sometimes look at someone and be able to perceive what was going on just by my own spirit at the time.  So those were some of things that began to happen and when I got saved…

Sid: Well, at eighteen I want to know about that, you’re at your parents home, you’re in the basement and you finally experience the God that spoke to you way back at age five; tell me about that.

Hank:  I was being deeply pursued by some of the, what I call crazy Christians of the High School because they recognized evidently that there was some kind of calling on my life and I resisted them and I finally knelt down one day at the age of eighteen and I asked Jesus to come into my heart; and nobody was around just God and I said “Look if You are real here’s my life.”  And it was shortly after that, two months later that I got filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues.

Sid:   Now how did your parents deal with that they weren’t even believers?

Hank:  Well, you know I had a miracle happen, this is what really got my parents upset and not only was I talking about Jesus, but I had, my parents owned a service station, so I always around the grease and the dirt and stuff like that helping my parents.  I had really bad acne that broke out on my face and the first thing that God healed me of within the first two months of my salvation was he healed me supernaturally from acne in a service that I went to.  The guy started calling it out you know, acne and different things; and I’m thinking golly minister can’t you see I’m sitting here right on the third row? I didn’t know that he was operating in a supernatural word of knowledge and so a woman sitting next to me said, “The Lord’s speaking to you claim your healing.”  So I said, “Well, I claim healing for acne.”  So I went home and I told my parents and I said, “God’s going to heal me from acne, the Lord has healed my face.”  And they laughed and of course they thought I was crazy because I was severely broken out.  But I’m telling you Sid, in a few days I had baby skin; it looked like someone had taken their hand and put it on my cheeks and you could see these spots that looked like somebody would take like five fingers and these spots of new skin would appear completely healed my whole face.  And of course my parents thought I was crazy, even after that sign and wonder they even more thought I was in a cult, especially now that they say their son with a clean face.

Sid: But then, shortly thereafter why did they kick you out of they’re home?

Hank:  Well, my Dad kicked me out of my house, he said, “Listen, either you,” and of course my dad, you know he’s a precious man today, we’ve since had our relationship restored, thank God for that.  But we spent, you know I spent a few holidays alone because he said, “Either you deny this Jesus or you get out.”  And what happened shortly after I got saved and healed with this acne, I got filled with the Holy Ghost and I had something happen, my Mom was yelling my name at the top of the stairs, trying to get my attention, but what she did not know is that I had prayed and been filled with the Holy Ghost.  All night long I prayed in the Holy Spirit, didn’t even know what was going on and I got caught up in a vision, my first actual vision to where I saw what looked like a throne room.

Sid: How did you know how to pray in unknown tongues all night?  How did you know these things, you’re unchurched?

Hank:  Well, they had given me material and somebody actually I should clarify prayed with me to receive and when I did receive it was very fluent and they said, “Now go home and just keep praying.”  Well, I went home and I kept on praying and I didn’t realize I prayed all night long.

Sid: I wish someone had told me that! Ha-ha.

Hank:  But it led to a beautiful vision of what I believe was a throne room and that was my first spiritual experience.  And of course my Mom, she didn’t know what was going on, all she thought I was doing was ignoring her voice and really what she didn’t realize is that I was having a major vision in my starting of my Christianity.

Sid:  What did you see in the throne room?

Hank:  It was very interesting; the only thing that I could really tell you that really really drew my attention was all the people that were there.  And I could see this bright light, it was so bright that I couldn’t really see much around me but I could see someone was sitting on a big, what appeared like a throne.  I couldn’t see it because the light was so piercing and I could see what looked like glass in front of me.  That is the only way that I can describe it and I could see people all around me. But I tell you what was even more impressive than the things that I was seeing like the light and all the people and you know this figure off in the distance on this throne, again I could only see from like the feet and the knees up.  Was kind of more blurry was the noise that was there; it was like nothing like I’ve ever heard before in my life.  But from that moment on it drew a real hunger in my heart to really tap into what happened to me, you know and then God began to deal with me because the prophetic is progressive.  You know just like with Joseph it starts off with a dream for himself, then interpreting dreams for others and now he’s standing before a major political figure.  God was dealing with me with this whole dream and this healing that happened with my face and now he starts giving me a dream and ministering to me that way in the supernatural.  And I would like to share a dream I had my first one, would that be all right with ya?

Sid:   Sure.

Hank:  Yeah, I remember it because again, I want to encourage people who are listening that are listening you know, maybe you don’t get words over the nation, but listen God will speak to you; and I like dreams.   I’ll tell you why Sid, we’re sleeping our soul is more quiet, our body’s quiet, were not distracted and God can really speak to us.  And there’s a principal that I’ve learned and it’s this; God’s ability to communicate to us is greater than our ability not to hear.  Okay, God has many ways to communicate to us.  He’s ability to get His message across is greater than our ability not to hear; and dreams is a great way for God to speak.  Well, I was recently saved and this also led to me being kicked out; there was a young girl that was in a car accident, major car accident.  The whole family was traumatized by it, the neighborhood was in shock, she got hit in her car by this big truck, immediately in a coma.  Nobody knew what to do it looked like she was going to die.  God gave me a dream, it was one of the first spiritual experiences that I had for anybody else and I saw this girl in her hospital room hanging on to life.  I saw a bright light come into the room in this dream and I saw a calendar and I saw the date and it said on the calendar, Easter was written on the calendar the word Easter.  You know Resurrection Sunday.  Well, all of a sudden I saw in the dream her eyes looked up and she looked at the calendar and I knew in my heart when I woke up that this young girl that had been a coma, where the doctors were saying that she wasn’t going to make it, that she was going to wake up on Easter Sunday or just before it.  So my mistake was, like Joseph, I went and began to tell the whole neighborhood.  Of course they thought I was crazy and they said, “How do you know God speaks.  So I did something kind of strange Sid, I went and got all my parents encyclopedias and went out to the light pole and met many of the people in the neighborhood trying to prove that God speaks today.  Of course they thought I was a nut and that…

Sid:   But what happened on Resurrection Sunday?

Hank:  Well, just as, what I didn’t realize at the time was really my first prophetic, you know with the Lord the sense of you know, moving in the prophetic for somebody else; she woke up.

Sid:   I tell you what; I want you to wake up prophetically…