It's Supernatural

Sid:  My guest Mary Kathryn Baxter in 1976 just a normal housewife, a normal mother she was selected by the Lord to go to Hell 30 nights in a row, observe what happened there and tell people.  And Mary Kathryn you were telling me that just at the church your at right now that when you share what you’ve seen with your very eyes in Hell are there many people that hold back from accepting Jesus?

Mary K:  No, they come to the altars, there’s no hard hearts, the testimony seems to just melt their hard hearts because they have understanding and they have a knowledge once you testify of what you’ve seen of Hell and the judgment of God they don’t want that they want to get saved.

Sid:  Now tell me ah you must have had a lot of experience 30 nights in a row, tell me the worst circumstance you saw in Hell of someone suffering.

Mary K:  It was where the abomination of desolations are in Hell, it was that big round metal looking places full of fire, liquid fire and hot lava are bubbling.  And when souls die that go to this place they’re called the abominable, they come down by the demon powers they have a chain on them Sid, their skeletons they pick them up and throw them in this fire.  And they are salted in this fire and swimming in this fire and they feel like they have a real body and there is no end to the torment, no end to the burning, and where some of them like in the left leg of Hell the fires will die down around their ankles and then it will shoot back up over them again.  And the demons in Hell have no feelings, they have no soul so they have no mercy and where the vat are they laugh, they accuse them they say “How can a God of mercy put you in a place like this?”  The accuse God, the demons say that to them and these are the abdominals and it’s horrible, it’s a very horrible experience.

Sid:  Just out of curiosity did you see any people with specific sin such as people that were lesbians or homosexuals in Hell?

Mary K:  There was a river, yes their torments really bad too, it’s in the Book of Hebrews and the Book of Romans.  The scriptures are written in the fires and they’re big block letters like letters, the whole scriptures are written out In the flames and though there’s a current okay that about ten feet wide and the flames from this place is around ten feet high the flame and it flows all through Hell, it’s like a river.  And in this river is live souls being pulled through a current of skeletons they’re charred red from burning in the fire and they’re pulled with it like 80 miles an hour they’re going through this river and they’re screaming and saying “Why didn’t somebody warn us, is there anymore hope for us?”  And they’re voices echo Sid through the chambers of Hell and that where they go.

Sid:  And so in other words they had the scriptures from the two books of New Testament that you mentioned having to do with homosexuality so there was no question as to whether that was a sin.  What other people with specific types of sins did you see?

Mary K:  Okay, in Galatians about the seventeen works of the flesh there was categories in Hell separation in Hell of like there would be 2 million over here like in a valley part of Hell and they would be burning and screaming with a black chain on them and a humongous dead dry feel and would be the liars; people that lied on the earth okay.  And then you would go to the belly of Hell and in the belly of Hell Sid would be a large heart as big as a football field shape of a human heart.  And it would have black snake skin on it and this  place, Christ took me in there and it was horrifying; there was doorways into it and in this place there was a skeletons on fire with a liquid fire that never went out and this was a judgment of God on Hippocrates and backbiters in this section.  And then when you’re out of there you go and there another section for people that were in witchcraft, sorcery in the very center of Hell is the belly of Hell and part of these jail cells are seventeen miles high and three miles around.  The man that was here Sunday saw and he called them cubes.  And these cubes some of at the very top would swing and they would go out and demon powers would have souls in there burning and screaming to get out.  And if you look in the book of Ezekiel it talks about the sides of pits and the fallen kings and evil people in there well that’s in Hell too.  There’s a levels, different levels of torment in Hell, souls that are lost.

Sid:  Let’s talk about you had 30 days or evenings going to Hell in a row and then 10 evenings going to Heaven.

Mary K:  Yes.

Sid:  Tell me one thing that, I might be really excited about that you saw in Heaven.

Mary K:  Heaven, oh praise God!  You…

Sid:  I can tell you’d rather talk about Heaven (laughing)

Mary K:  I love to talk about it, I really do; we’ve had a week of almost seven days of just straight preaching on Hell.  Heaven is a place, okay the main thing I would like is the throne of God, I like to go, I went seven times before the throne and I saw the throne like in Revelations 4 I saw the colors, the rainbows, I saw the lightning coming around the throne.  I saw this huge cloud and the Lord inside the cloud because you couldn’t see His face.  But His voice was like many waters and as it came out there was the redeemed in the audience thousands in seats and angels and the children’s seats are solid gold with diamonds as big as fists where the children sat.  And they’re in the audience they’re in with the other people and then you see an order, an order in Heaven, you see how before His throne there’s angels standing with great dress, their garments are made some of them look like they have feathers on them.  Then some of them have jewels on them and some of them they have their, I don’t know it’s like they earned these garments, I don’t know how to explain it but I felt it that these garments they’ve wearing mean something.  And then they stand before the thones, some blow trumpets 35 feet long, long trumpets, others music playing a piano, there is a piano forty feet across, several angels are sitting there playing the piano and a choirs of music like you’ve never seen.  And you hear the, oh man you hear I don’t know how to say it but you hear the presence of God as well as being there in His presence and it’s like I don’t know how to say it, never on earth have I experienced anything like that.  And when you go before the throne there’s always a purpose and I was brought before the throne several times.  I got to hear what was going on, I got to see treasures being given out, I got to see books of tears opened up.  God was always, they were doing things and it was awesome but when God spoke there was silence and it was just awesome to see, I’d love to go before the throne of God.

Sid:  Now I’ve interviewing you primarily this week because I want to put in the hands of everyone listening what I call an essential mentoring tool and I believe it’s totally demonic that we have a generation of Christians that do not understand the power of the blood.  You talk about in your book pleading the blood, what does that mean to you?

Mary K:  Okay, like prayer when the children come up that maybe there is a young man on crack cocaine and you begin to pray and Holy Spirit prompts you to say “Cover him with the blood of Jesus and you break the stronghold off of him through the name of Jesus and through the blood of Jesus.”  That is saying I believe the blood covenant of Jesus Christ is strong enough to remove that demonic power from him, and as you pray in the Holy Spirit and you cover them with the blood of the lamb they totally get transferred, they get saved, they get filled with the Holy Spirit.  I’ve seen it all over the world, and when you’ve seen it all over the world and when you begin to cover them with the prayer of God and that Jesus loves them and wants to set them free and they get understanding about the blood that Jesus shed.  His blood is right there, right at that moment to wash away their sins if they’ll repent of cocaine and repent of what they are doing they will totally be transformed.  It is the power in the blood of Jesus Christ.

Sid:  Now in my notes it says of all of the revelations that God has given you none has impacted you like the knowledge of the blood of Jesus, why?

Mary K:  Right, because I’ve seen the evidence of it Sid; I’ve seen even angels standing when God permits it it’s called the bloodline.  And I actually see the angels standing really with the blood line, like a line in around the church and all around it and its solid red and their holding that around the church.  And I thought about that and the blood of Jesus has empowered me so much because I prayed for people that’s been very ill and cover them with the blood of Jesus because the blood signifies what Christ did, why He died.  There’s healing in the atonement; there’s healing in the blood of Jesus it impacted my life so because I see the fruit of it; I see the evidence of it.  I see the change in people’s life when we pray and cover them with the blood of Jesus Christ.

Sid:  You talk about even deliverance by pleading the blood, explain.

Mary K:  Yes, okay I was in the church service one day this was a vision that’s in the book, there was a lot of youth coming up for prayer, many of them was into habits, addictions and I was telling them, I said, “You know if you will repent of your sins you know I explained and the blood of Jesus will wash you clean.”  And all at once I saw like the whole in front of them like a screen dropped down and there it was solid red and it begin to wash over those children backwards and forwards.  And they begin to raise their little hands and shout and praise the Lord and they begin to want to be saved and to confess Jesus Christ, they were going through the sinner’s prayer.  And as they went through the sinners prayer this came over them again and again and one of the young woman said, “Can I say something?  And I said, “Yes, honey.”  And she said, “As you were talking about the blood I felt as I repented to God, I was washed in a river of water.”  She said, “I felt a cleansing come all over me.”  And the other ones told it too, some of them were shy but they told how they felt and I saw that, I saw what God was doing.  And it is His mercy and His grace being poured upon us through the blood of Jesus.

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. It’s been stolen. One of the most precious gifts given to man has been stolen. Either it’s been demoted to the back room within a congregation or kicked out of the congregation. And yet Paul himself says he did this more than any man. Well my guest Corey Russell came from a nice Christian home, gets to college and does what so many young people do, goes berserk, gets into drugs, sex, parties, everything that goes on in college today. But Corey, about how many years ago was it you were in college?

COREY: It was about 16, 17 years ago.

SID: Okay. Today it’s so much worse. The pressures these young people have to go under. I mean, I don’t know how they can even exist in the environment there in most colleges. But Corey, you had a friend, a best friend, Zach. Tell me about him.

COREY: Yeah. I mean, he was the one I was running with like most of those kids who are getting into college these days and just getting destroyed by the spirit of this age. I never knew Jesus for myself. So I found myself giving myself to the things of this world. It increases in college. I’m running with my good friend. We’re doing the drugs.

SID: It’s addictive.

COREY: Oh yeah.

SID: Which means you just keep going deeper and deeper, and deeper.

COREY: Deeper. And the big drive for me was how high can I get. It was a seek for pleasure.

SID: Wait a second. Even though you didn’t have an encounter with the Lord, you knew you had a bit of a foundation. Wasn’t there any conflict at all?

COREY: There was initially. But I think the more and more that you just begin to get deeper and deeper into this water, you just find yourself to where you’re being pushed by a current that you don’t drive it any more, and that you’re being pushed along a stream, and you don’t make the decisions any more. And so everything was gone with the wind. It was a cry for pleasure, how high can I get. We were doing the drugs that keep you up four and five days a week at a time. My friend who had a praying mom, I had a praying mom, we had intercessors crying out for us, in November of ’96, my friend lost his mind for a season. He went out a little too far on drugs, and for the next four months he would sit there. He would look real deep at you, but never say anything. And were saying, what in the world is going on with him. Little did we know that there was a real war in the heavenlies going on over his soul. It culminated on February 1, 1997. I showed up at his house another day to hang out with him. He comes running out the front door, screaming, “Corey, it’s Heaven or Hell! Corey, it’s Heaven or Hell! You got to make a decision.

SID: You figured he really flipped.

COREY: Oh yeah. I’m like, this is the first real conversation I’ve had with him in so many months and he’s talking about Heaven or Hell. What in the world is wrong with him? And so I said, “What’s wrong with you?” He goes, “You got to make a decision.” I end up leaving. And it was known that his mom, a praying woman, led him through three days of a supernatural deliverance, pulled the power of the devil off of him and brought him back to the Lord. He gets saved and I get angry. Two weeks later he shows up at the university that I was at and he takes me to lunch, and he begins to share with me everything that was going on with him for those four months. He says, “Corey, for those four months the whole spirit realm was opened up to me. I was seeing angels. I was seeing demons. I was seeing what was controlling people. And Corey, I can see that you’re being controlled by real things that you don’t know about.” He said, “This went on for these four months and it culminated in the very last night. We were shut up in a little house and the voice of the Lord broke in the middle of our party, and the Lord said, ‘Satan is raising up an army, but I’m raising up an army, too, and I’m calling you out tonight, and I want you to go call your friends out.'”

SID: So how did you react?

COREY: I’m freaking out. I don’t know what in the world are you talking about. First off, for him to tell me I have demons or I have spirits that are attacking me, I’m like, how dare you. I put up with you as a good friend while you acted weird for four months. I said, “Dude, just shut up and take me back to school.” And so he takes me back to the college. By this time I had two DWI’s. My license was gone for 16 months. He pulls into the college parking lot and right before I get out of the van to say good-bye to him forever, the Holy Spirit filled the van. I didn’t know it was the Holy Spirit. I began to feel a presence enter the van and I’m literally feeling it come across my body, and before I know it, I’m beginning to shake violently like I’m having a seizure. I mean, literally like I’m having a seizure. And I began to see flashes of light and darkness like a tug of war battle in the spirit over my soul. And I felt that there was a real battle over every soul. He pulls in the back of the parking lot and he starts praying. And after a little bit he goes, “In the name of Jesus, I bind the Antichrist spirit.” As soon as he binds that spirit it manifests into a choke hold around my throat. I didn’t know what was happening. I just knew I couldn’t breathe.

SID: Something was choking you.

COREY: Yes. The demon manifested and I couldn’t breathe. And at that moment I had all these objections to Jesus mostly because you get saved when you’re older in life. You spend these years having fun and Christianity is something you do later. At that moment I knew I had to get out the name Jesus. I had to get out the name Jesus. So I go to say the name and I went, “Jeez” and the hole got tighter. “Jeez”, it got tighter. Sid, I tried about five or six times trying to get the name out, “Jesus” and the spirit would not let me say his name. My buddy is in my ear saying, “Say it! Say it! Say it!” I said, “I’m trying! I’m trying! I’m trying!” Finally I just remember taking a deep breath and with all the power inside of me just going, “Jesus!” like that, and the hole just breaking right off of me. And it was like someone came and breathed right into my mouth. And after a couple of moments I kept just saying, “I got air. I got air. I got air.” And then I heard a voice in my mind saying, “Now get out of the van, get on the pavement and give me your life. You’re mine.” Just like that. I jump out of the van, February 18, 1997. By those days we were sticking needles in our veins, smoke a bag a day, drink a case a day, threw away sexuality throughout those teenage years. And one touch of the supernatural power of God brought instantaneous deliverance, salvation and freedom right there.

SID: You’re telling me no withdrawal?

COREY: No withdrawal.

SID: Now that’s my kind of drug-free program. But what happened? You went back to your old high school. They probably couldn’t even recognize you.

COREY: Well I was in college at the time and I had a drug room of friends. My little brother, who was in the high school, was running with us. All of us had encounters like that one or bigger in their explosions. I end up leading my little brother to the Lord, who goes crazy for Jesus in the high school. And over the next six months we begin to see half the high school get saved and come to the Lord.

SID: Whoa. You’re exaggerating. Half the high school?

COREY: Half the high school was either coming back to the Lord, the backslidden and coming back, either saved for the first time, baptized with the Holy Spirit. Something was happening with over half of the high school.

SID: I’m going to tell you something, and I’m going to tell you something. Shortly after Corey had that experience he tapped into the greatest supernatural power of his life. You think that was something what you just heard, wait until you hear about this dorm that opens up everything you’ve ever wanted with God. Don’t go away. We’ll be right back.

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Judith MacNutt and we’re talking about angels, and here’s the most amazing thing. When Judith teaches about angels and talks about angels people that have never seen them or felt them, or experienced them start seeing them, feeling them and experiencing them. Angels protect us. I mean, I know wouldn’t be here right this minute without an angel protecting me.

JUDITH: That’s true.

SID: But tell me about the time you were in Israel and you went to the florist shop.

JUDITH: Oh yeah. God has saved my life so many times, and that was one of them. My friend and I were in the old city we called Old Jerusalem, and we were going into the new city for a prayer meeting. And I was walking with a friend to meet Lynn, my friend at the florist shop. And I kept hearing this voice say, “Don’t go there. Stop. Don’t go there.” And it became more and more insistent. Don’t go there. And so finally, I said, we weren’t too far from the florist shop when I finally told my friend, “I don’t think we’re supposed to go there.” And he said, let’s pray. So we joined hands and we started praying. Within a few moments a bomb went off, and the bomb was in the florist shop, and we would have been standing right in front of the florist shop. And it killed everyone in the area. I mean, it was just a horrible scene. And of course, my heart went out to all those people. But then I thought my friend who was always on time, I was sure she was there. I was always late. She was always on time. And he said, “If God warned you he would have told her, too.” And so we went to the prayer meeting and she was at the prayer meeting. And I said, “Why didn’t you go to the florist?” And she said, “I just kept hearing this voice tell me don’t go there.” And she listened the first time. She was always very obedient.

SID: Tell me about healing angels. There are actually angels and that’s their assignment?

JUDITH: Well the way we understand it, Sid, is there’s healing angels. There’s angels that protect us and there’s angels that are in spiritual warfare, engaged in spiritual warfare. We have a healing ministry of course. So we see angels all the time and their prayer ministers see them all the time.

SID: Okay. Tell me about the time you had uterine cancer and the healing angel.

JUDITH: Yes. I was diagnosed. They told me, I was only 28 years old, they told me I would have to have a hysterectomy. I wanted to marry. I wanted to have children. And I heard that Francis MacNutt was in town. And so my friend and I went to a little home prayer group that night where he was praying. And I was seated in a chair, and he had his hand on my head praying for God to heal me. And there was only five or six of us there. And I was sitting in the chair and my head kept going back on the back of the chair. And I felt like he was pressing too hard on my head. So I opened my eyes to ask him to not press so hard. And he had moved. He was standing across the room with his arms held up praying, and there was no one with a hand on my head. And so I knew it was an angel. And I literally couldn’t get out of the chair for a long time. I was held into the chair while God’s healing power just went through my body. And the next day I went to the surgeon that was going to do the surgery over in Tampa. And he examined me, and he said, “You’ve been totally and completely healed. There’s no cancer.”

SID: That is neat. That didn’t even take faith on your part. I like that.

JUDITH: I know.

SID: I pray that healing angels show up sometime while we’re speaking.

JUDITH: Well what was so wonderful to me about that story is we did marry later, and we have two amazingly wonderful children.

SID: Very briefly, tell me about that sign you saw of the three angels, so you knew you were supposed to marry Francis.

JUDITH: Well we were at a retreat center because we both needed to be there. It was God’s will. And we were praying in our room together, and three angels came into the home while we were praying. And one of them leaned over next to him and said something to him, and I just knew that he had heard. And so when we finished praying I said, “Did you hear?” I didn’t tell him about the angels. He said, “No, not yet.” And he went up to the chapel and got on his face before God, and he said, “I’m not going to move until I know what I’m supposed to do.” And then he heard it, that he was meant to marry and to take me as his wife.

SID: Tell me about that conference you were at and literally the room changed.

JUDITH: That was an extraordinary. I actually have that in writing from several people. We were in a conference. This has happened many times all around the world. We were in a conference and the whole back of the room disappeared. We were having a healing service.

SID: But you were not the only one that saw this.

JUDITH: Oh no, no. At least six or seven, or eight people turned in, wrote it down that they had seen this. And Jesus, a golden staircase came in. It’s like the room just vanished and this golden staircase, and Jesus came into the room followed by just hundreds of angels. And Jesus went over to every person that was sick and laid his hands on them. And when he walked away an angel would come and take his place, and stay with that person. And we had so many healings.

SID: That’s what I was going to ask you. It’s wonderful the angels prayed. But what is the fruit? That’s what people are asking.

JUDITH: Tremendous healing. We had cancer, Parkinson’s disease, diabetes. Several people got out of wheelchairs. It was an extraordinary healing service that night.

SID: Well I believe as you teach a little bit on angels when we come back, that many of you are going to get healed. I mean, I’m hearing this already. Don’t go away. Be right back.

Sid:  My guest is red hot for the Messiah, he’s a prophet his name is Rob DeLuca from New Zealand, where he’s also a pastor.  And I asked Rob before we went on the air give me an example of some of your prophetic words that have come to pass. The first thing that popped into his head was Leo, tell me about Leo Rob.

Rob:  Well, about a month and a half ago on television I had a vision of a named Leo.  His friends called him Leroy and I saw this man in prison.  And I saw that he was watching the revival from his cell; and the Holy Spirit spoke to me and told me to tell Leo that, “God was going to use him and that he was going to receive and impartation of fire from watching the revival meetings.”  As that took place God said that, “He would use Leo to bring a great revival to the prison that he was in.”  Three days later we received a phone call from a man named Leo in prison, he said “I was watching on God TV and God touched me in my prison cell.”  He had been in prison for eighteen and a half years falsely accused.  That week he received a DNA test and they found out that the Leo was not guilty.  He told the prisoners in the prison all about what took place, and revival has broken out in that prison.  Leo has been preaching the gospel, prisoners are getting saved, the other Christian prisoners are set on fire, they have been praying for sick prisoners needing miracles, and healing and healing and miracles are breaking out throughout the whole prison.

Sid:  I would like to loose you with your prophetic gift to minister to the people right now.

Rob:  I’m already seeing visions, there’s a person that driving in their car right now, you have a tumor on the left side your neck.  Right now if you will reach up touch your neck as you’re driving you will notice that God just healed you of that tumor.  There’s also another person, you have a pinched nerve in your lower back, it’s on the right side you are listening at your house, God is healing your back.  There is also another person that has paralyzed right arm, it is in your elbow, it is in your wrist and it is in your hand.  You are paralyzed from an accident, God right now is bringing life into your arm, loosen your elbow and begin to stretch forth your hand, God is healing that.  There is another person, you are a man, you are listening to this you had heart surgery before, and you’ve gone to the doctors and the doctor is saying that you have to go in for another surgery, but the Lord is saying to you today sir, you will be healed right now as you hear, and your heart will be made well and you will be diagnosed a clean bill of health as you go back to your doctors.  There’s also someone else that is believing for a person that is in a coma, there in your house, there in a coma.  I see it’s a man and he’s been a coma for years, as you are listening to this I want you to go lay your hands on that man that’s in the bedroom and speak life in Jesus name, and you will watch this man come out of a coma right now.  There’s also another person you are named Peter, “Peter, you are called of God and you are listening to this and you’ve been backslidden and lukewarm because you were hurt in a church and you left the church, but God has a great call on your life; you are listening to us right now via radio; God has called you Peter and God has called you to be a preacher and a revivalist and you know it.”  If you will forgive those that hurt you and you will release them and repent of being in your backslidden state God will set you free and you will have a fresh hunger and a new zeal for Him and the call of God upon your life.

Sid:  There is such a presence of God I believe that people are saying “Oh, I wish he would have a word of knowledge for me.”  I believe that you could pray for people in general and anyone.

Rob:  Yeah, but here God just spoke to me.  I will pray for everyone right now, and we’ll pray for healing to go through the airways and touch everyone. There’s also somebody being healed of a deaf ear, you have a deaf ear and you’re listening with your left ear but your right ear is deaf.  Right now I command that ear to pop open in Jesus name.  And Sid I’m just going to pray and overall prayer for miracles and healings to touch all the listeners right now just like you said.  “Father I ask for the power of Your presence, the power that brings forth healing to come through the name of Your Son Jesus. If you are believing for a miracle, if you are believing for healing in your body or if it’s emotional healing I want you to lay your hand on the radio or in the car even if you’re in the car right now lay it on the radio right in front of you and begin to receive.  Right now I command every spirit of infirmity, every sickness and disease to leave God’s people in the name of Jesus!  Right now receive your healing, right now begin to do something you couldn’t not before, right now check your body.  There’s also someone else that’s being healed, you have a problem with your vein in your right leg and God is healing that, they are saying that have to do major surgery on the inside of your thigh, God is healing that right now you are receiving new veins in your leg.  I thank you Father for healing your people, I thank you Holy Spirit for invading the homes, invading the workplaces and invading the cars of those that are listening.  I thank you for healing your people, there is healing anointing flowing through the airwaves right now, receive your healing in Jesus name.”

Sid:  But Rob I also believe that it’s a two way anointing it’s not just a healing anointing, but I believe people could receive the revival anointing that you’re walking under right now if you would pray for impartation.

Rob:  I’m going to pray right now for fire to go through the airwaves. If you will receive by faith that you can get an impartation right where you are at there is no distance in the Spirit, the Holy Spirit can move anywhere any place in the earth.  I’m going to pray right now for fire to go through the airwaves and if you will receive and believe by faith that you can get an impartation right now where you are at there is no distance in the Spirit the Holy Spirit can move anywhere in any place in the earth.  If you are listening to my voice right now get ready because I’m going to pray for an impartation of the fire of the Holy Ghost, just lift up your hands, if you are driving, you might want to pull over.  “Father right now I ask for Your Fire to fill the atmosphere of those that are listening, I ask for the fire of Your presence Holy Spirit to fill the atmosphere where these are listening, these people that are listening right now that are hungry for Your presence and on the count of three I’m going to pray for that fire to fall into you and to go into your spirit and burn in your mortal body.  “One, two, three fire in them, fire, fire, fire in everyone in Jesus name.”  Now take that revival fire get souls saved, pray for the sick, cast out demons, raise the dead, and believe for the greatest outpouring that you have ever witnessed in your life right now in Jesus name!

Sid:  Now what is going to happen in the near future as a result of this outpouring of God’s Spirit worldwide right now; paint me a picture of what you see of ultimately occurring.

Rob:  I really believe that what took place in the last hundred years concerning the great outpourings, the revivals that we read about in Azusa Street with William Seymour and with Evan Roberts and the Welch revival, and the voice of healing with hundreds of healing evangelist being released all over the America. I really believe that God is about to bring forth hungry on fire Christians, ordinary Christians that go to school and their high schools that go to universities that are mothers that take care of their kids daily, and you know just people in the work place, I really believe that there is a healing outpouring that’s going to take place where everyone that is hungry for this that will believe God will begin to operate in the supernatural, operate in signs and wonders, operate in the gifts of the Spirit as never before.  And I really believe that God is bringing forth healing to the nations of the world through this.

Sid:  My guest is red hot for the Messiah, his name is Dr. Vitaliy Fishberg, he’s a Russian Jew that had an encounter with Jesus similar to Paul.  For three days and three nights he was so saturated with the Spirit of God; he couldn’t eat, he couldn’t drink. All he could do is fall deeper and deeper and deeper in love with Yeshua; with Jesus.  Now Vitaliy just before I called you, you were in prayer, what happened?

Vitaliy:  Suddenly my mother came and disappeared my prayers and I wasn’t at my best and I said, “Mother, if five minutes I will have recording” but she said, “Now go outside, you have to worship.”  And when I came out from my house I saw huge circular rainbow appeared right above my house.

Sid:  Circular?

Vitaliy:  Yes Sid. Huge circular rainbow appeared and also right before that when I was in prayer angel came to me and angel spoke to me something.  Ha-ha, could I tell you what angel said to me?

Sid:  You better.

Vitaliy:  You know what, actually I was so much encouraged to hear it, angel brought reward of the Lord to me.  And angel said to me, “Now because of this radio program worldwide spiritual atmosphere is about the intimacy with the Lord will change much.”  And each person who have open heart and goodness and seek for intimacy and who are spiritually hungry with the Lord will receive powerful touch through these radio programs.  Their lives will be changed forever anointing makes all the difference it’s not about what they’re saying it’s not about our life it’s about the anointing on the program.  And when I saw the rainbow, actually I received the phone call I from a pastor friend. He’s praying for me right now because I said it was so important and I was waiting so much to have this recording.  This brother Sid, the Lord who I love so much and he called me and he said “You know Vitaliy I saw with my spiritual eyes very clear that you were surrounded with the golden glory all over you.”  “And I feel like waterfall of God’s glory upon you and I saw with Jesus,” this man actually he’s Pentecostal, but he does not see so much visions.  So it was one of his first visions, but he told me that I was surrounded so much by the glory of God and he felt like waterfall of God’s glory upon me and upon you Sid and it’s upon all of our radio listeners.

Sid:  Well, what is normal is about ready to happen on planet earth, what is normal is what we read about in the Bible, what is abnormal and what we see in religion.  It’s time for religion to be normal, and let’s kind of wet their appetite. I know you’ve said to me Vitaliy, and we’ve done special CD of some teaching and prayer of impartation.  But you said to me that your greatest passion is for people to fall more in love with Jesus till literally there is a fire of intimacy when you pray for people and which you did on this special CD that we’re offering.  Tell me some of the miracles that are happening in your life.  Tell me about the woman that needed knee surgery.

Vitaliy:  Actually this year I started see a lot of creative miracles in my ministry and for one woman of our church, I mean many of my people, they are Russian people and they are poor immigrants, they don’t have anything.  They don’t have medical insurances, you know, yes most of them they cannot afford this.  I don’t go into details here but I just say that this woman you don’t have any insurance…

Sid:  In other words, if God doesn’t heal her she’s in trouble.

Vitaliy:  Yes. She was working as a home attendant, very difficult job tried to pay her living you know.  Also she had family in Ukraine who are dying of hunger you know because in the Ukraine the situation so terrible the economical situation is so this poor woman had to work here and also she is almost 70 Sid, and to send money to Ukraine.  And she came to me now she cannot work anymore because she doesn’t have any knee joint so she would have to get to surgery to have another knees.

Sid:  Like another knee replacement,

Vitaliy:  Knee replacement so basically when I pray and not in faith but in Christ’s compassion you know what Sid, I don’t know about you, but I’m young sometimes.  When people say okay I don’t have kidney I have to go to the hematologist, or my liver is shut down completely.  Sometimes I don’t have faith you know, I don’t have faith to pronounce that they be healed in Yeshua Name.  And when I laid my hands I just had strong, strong compassion for this poor woman and for her family.  So when I pray in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, actually nothing has happened, but in three days she started to feel a serious heat and she was sweating all over her body. Basically suddenly she received brand new knees; and if you look at brand new knees.

Sid:  And how long ago was this?

Vitaliy:  Basically it was just two months ago.

Sid:  Well, that sure beats knee surgery I can tell you that, knee replacement surgery, ha-ha.

Vitaliy:  In similar situations it was the kidney’s you know like when people, had kidney failure.

Sid:  Tell me about one that had his kidney restored.

Vitaliy:  Actually I had one man who was severely diabetic you know, and doctor said to him, “You have to go to the hematologist because your kidney not working anymore.  He said, “No, I don’t want to do this” you know. When he came to me and I will just lay my hands in faith I pronounce that God will give him new kidneys and it was done you know.  So now he has totally new kidneys and also many many amazing creative miracles now happening .  And actually you know how it’s happened Sid?

Sid:  How?

Vitaliy:  Suddenly I started to get golden dust on my arms you know and you know actually even many times before I had this golden dust but now it started to appear regularly and this golden dust was coming not from outside; but actually it is funny to say but it was coming from the inside out.

Sid:  I can understand that, I’ve met people that this is like their hair is normal and all of a sudden their hair is filled with gold dust.

Vitaliy:  Ha-ha-ha, also you know what?  Sometimes when I was praying, when I was praying and actually when I saw visions about Israel suddenly I saw so much gold dust on my arms it wasn’t only gold dust but it was golden oil.

Sid:  Now speaking of visions of Israel, in the Bible there is something called translation where someone is in one place and they are translated to another place, or they go in the Spirit to another place.  Has this happened to you?

Vitaliy:  Actually many, many times the Lord Jesus Yeshua appeared to me and most like trance.

Sid:  Yes.

Vitaliy:  And He took me, and I saw myself as a boy and He was calling me, please come with me, I want to show you something interesting.  And we flied to Israel, and I saw the land of Israel and afterward He started to take me different historical moment so I was able to see King David, I was able to see Moses. I was able to see even the Lord Jesus when He was boy, and the moment when He was entering where Jerusalem with the donkey.  Actually that moment I saw very very clear I saw it was a lot of people; it was with palm, palm leaves and His, the disciples of Lord Jesus was not paying much attention of me.  But the Lord Jesus, actually I was standing behind Him He saw me and He was smiling to me, He was pleased by this experience.

Sid:   The experiences that you have that are normal are what is normal in the Bible…