It's Supernatural

Sid:Do you have sort of a sense that something so wonderful is about ready to happen in the Spirit of God?I believe prophetically speaking three giants went home to be with the Lordthis year and there’s a real message prophetically speaking in this.

1. Bill Bright and he was the founder of Campus Crusade a ministry to college students and young people.
2. Ken Hagen now what was he known for? A ministry of faith and walking in the Spirit.
3. Derek Prince, well Derek Prince was known for a lot of things but in recent years what he was known for was his position on Israel.

If you recall I was at his funeral and just before he died we were told he gave a prophetic word as to what God is up to at this moment in history. And it was so simple and yet it was so profound he said “God is restoring Israel and judging the nations.” Now when you look at these 3 great giants of God that went home this is what I see. I see the ingredients of the next move of God’s Spirit it will involve young people that’s what Bill Bright brought to the table. It will evolve faith and walking in the Spirit that’s what Ken Hagen taught. And it will involve the Jew and Israel, that’s what Derek Prince emphasized. And if we put those 3 ingredients together I believe that these are 3 of the greatest ingredients of the next move of God’s Spirit. And if you turn to Ephesians the 2^nd chapter the 14^th verse I’ve called it the One New Manbut let me explain to you why I call it the One New Man. “For He Himself is our peace who has made both one (He’s talking about Jews and Gentiles) and has broken down the middle wall of separation.” So why did Yeshua come? To break down the middle wall of separations between Jews and non-Jews having abolished in His flesh the enmity that is the law of commandments contained in ordinances so as to create in himself One New Man. That’s where that phrase comes from. So to create in Him One New Man from the two thus making peace. And the Hebrew name for peace is Shalom, completeness.As if to say “Until the Jew is added to the body of Messiah there is an incompleteness.” In other words a Jewish person needs a Christian and a Gentile Christian needs a Jew. And the 16^th verse that he might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross thereby putting to death the enmity.” And then jump down to the 22^nd verse because this is what he’s doing “In whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.” In other words, the One New Man is the new temple of God your body is the temple of God but the corporate temple of God is the Jew and Gentile. Again why did Jesus come? To break down that middle wall of separation and you know when I see this verse 22 it says “Whom you are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.” I’m reminded again of a teaching of a teaching of Kenneth Hagen and he used to say “You are a spirit, you live in a body and you have a soul.” You see psychology doesn’t even understand the spirit. Psychology says you’re really a soul. No, you are a spirit and our problem is that we’re so carnally minded that we lose track of the fact that we a spirit. Yes we have a soul, yes we have a body, but the eternal you is your spirit. The part of you that communicates with God is your spirit. In fact, one of the things that I’ve been trying to do is rely more on my spirit than on my brain. Now why would I want to do that? Because God’s Holy Spirit is mingled with my spirit and God’s Holy Spirit knows everything. My mind only has limited information, it’s like a computer it only knows what’s going in it doesn’t know anything else. But God knows everything, that’s why even praying in tongues is so important. But most believers are so caught up in the things of this earth that they don’t recognize that this earth is not there heaven is your home. I think it would do you a lot of good, it would do me a lot of good to say over and over again until I get it in my thick skull or in my spirit really “I am a spirit, I happen to live in a physical body, and I happen to have a soul. But I’m much more interested in being the one new man a dwelling placeof God in the Spirit.”

One of the most important things about the one new man is what the Christian brings. You know it’s like cooking a cake if you have the wrong ingredients in the recipe the cake won’t be as good. But if you have the right ingredients you’re going to bake a wonderful cake. Now I do not cook a whole lot you can ask my wife Joyce that’s not one of my pastimes. I like to eat, I don’t like to cook but I know enough about cooking to know you need the right ingredients. So what does the Gentile Christian bring to the table? The Gentile Christian brings 2000 years of walking with Jesus. The Gentile Christian brings the fruit of the Spirit. The Gentile Christian brings the knowledge of the New Covenant. So what does the Jewish person bring in this cake that we’re baking right now. It’s found in Romans the 9^th chapter. Paul says “I tell the truth in Messiah, I am not lying my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Spirit that I have great sorrow and continual grief in my heart for I could wish that I myself were a curse from Messiah for my breather, my countrymen according to the flesh.”

You imagine this I mean this has got to be short of Jesus dying for us the next most amazing statement in the Bible Paul would give up his very relationship with Jesus eternity forever for his brethren after the flesh the Jewish people. And then he begins to say “Well, let me tell you why this is so important. Because the Jewish people their Israelites to whom pertain first the adoption. God says of the Jewish people you are my first born, and then the glory.” Can you imagine what will happen when the Old Covenant glory comingles with the New Covenant Glory? It’ll be like the ladder reign and the former reign Joel talks about coming down at once. That’s what’s about ready to happen. Of the Jewish people we owe a debt of gratitude because there’s other covenants the giving of the law the service of God. And in Greek that word service could just as easily be translated the worship of God. In fact some translations say “The worship of God.”

I believe that there’s music from heaven ready to come to earth. And you know what this music, we read about this music in heaven. In Revelations let me turn to that right now the 15^th chapter it talks about the music in heaven. And it says in Revelation 15:3 “They sang (and this is what they’re singing in heaven and it’s about ready to be passed on to earth) they sang the song of Moses, the servant of God (That represents the worship from the Jewish people) and the song of the lamb” (That represents the Gentile Christians), but I believe that when the two worships come together the song of the Lamb and the song of Moses when they’re intermingled it’s going to be the forerunner of the greatest move of God’s Spirit. Because it says also of the Jewish people the promises, what are the promises? Well I’ll tell you the promises God, and this is a tough statement and I’ll pick up here on tomorrows broadcast. But I’m going to by God’s grace and by the Spirit of God I’m going to give you revelation knowledge of the next move of God’s Spirit on planet earth the promises involving the land. Do you know who the first Zionist was? The Zionist believe that the Jewish people are entitled to the physical land of Israel forever. Do you know who the first Zionist were? You know a lot of people say “Well, I’m not against Jewish people I’m just against Zionism, I’m against Israel.” You can’t separate the two because do you know who the first Zionist was? God, if you are against Jewish people having the physical land of Israel unconditionally forever I tell you you are against God. And in the Living Bible and in Zachariah it says “He that touches Israel is the same as someone that pokes their finger in God’s eye.” Well, you have to be a pretty stupid person to want to do that. Were out of time…

Sid: My guest by way of telephone is Rebecca Park Totilo. I’m speaking to her…. caught up with her in Wichita, Kansas. And we were so excited about her brand new book it’s called “His Majesty Requests.” What she has done few Christians even comprehend. You see we have Jewish weddings today but Jewish weddings today are very different than the weddings at the time that Jesus walked in the flesh. A lot of what He wrote especially having to do with the royal wedding of the Lamb. He felt everyone would understand in a Jewish culture for Jewish people with Jewish weddings going on all of the time that everyone would understand the symbolism He was using. Well they did but in this generation most Christians don’t have a clue and miss so many wonderful things about the wedding supper of the Lamb, the Royal Wedding you can’t because it’s coming up soon and you’re part of the bride. And there is a dimension of intimacy revealed in the scriptures and revealed in a traditional ancient Jewish wedding that will equip you for the greatest wedding in history. So I have on the telephone Rebecca, and Rebecca some of the things that you went through as a child most Christians would have difficulty. I mean you were saved at 12 you promptly backslid in high school. How did you backslide just a little at a time or what were the major ingredients?

Rebecca: Well it’s not a pretty story but it’s the truth. Actually my father passed away when I had just turned 14 and so you know that’s a critical time in your life as a child when you’re entering the high school years. And of course I was very naive and innocent at that time and had not gone out with guys or anything but yet I because of that void in my life I had sort of fell into that trap of looking for affection and love in the wrong places. And actually it was in my sophomore year of high school that my Driver’s Ed Teacher took me out in the car and attempted to rape me. And of course he was not able to you know get away with it. And so I told my mom what had happened and such and because of all of the, you know, the circulation of stories going around and I was a cheerleader in high school and they didn’t want my reputation to be ruined and everything so they just sort of put it… sort of slipped it under the rug and pretended like it didn’t happen. But the teacher did lose his job and with that because of you know the injustice that had been done to me and I was the one that ended up feeling bad about myself that I had somehow caused this and brought this on to myself that I you know went and found you know affection from guys. And in fact within a couple of weeks later another guy who had taken me out to a sorority party had taken me out to a field and did rape me. And so that was the downhill side for me because I lost my virginity. That one thing that I held on to and felt was very precious and valuable to me the only thing that I thought that I had.

Sid: But then you kept sliding you got into drugs, you got into the occult.

Rebecca: Yes, it was actually through the high school years but I began to you know experiment with drugs and continue to live a partying lifestyle and it just grew deeper and deeper.

Sid: Now out of curiosity you’re a very prophetic type of individual today as a believer, but in your college days as you were into drugs and the New Age you actually saw demons?

Rebecca: Yes.

Sid: Were you afraid of them at all?

Rebecca: No, actually I really loved the spiritual realm and I think that’s what you see in many people today though they’re not necessarily believers and Christians or followers of the Messiah. But yet there’s that inward calling on a person and I had that hunger for the spiritual things but it was going to the wrong direction of course it was in a warped you know…

Sid: It’s a perversion of the real thing.

Rebecca: Exactly and so I had a real love for darkness in fact and I just had felt comfort in the darkness.

Sid: Did you really see a witch change into a cat before your eyes?

Rebecca: Yes she… I was working in a bar and we were closing up and the people, there was only a couple of people left the owner and the bartender and people And I was walking out. And this woman had come in and told us… I don’t know why but for some reason she was really angry with us in there and she came in and told us she was going to put a curse upon us, and everybody sort of laughed and made fun of her. So when I went outside I saw her actually walk around the car and instead of coming around the other side of the car like you would see someone do there was a black cat that came out from behind the car. And she disappeared and she was gone (Chuckle) and very strange. I was living down at the intercity going to college at the time and so there’s all kinds of things going on in that area of town and there’s a lot of bars and voodoo and a lot of witchcraft and things going on. So I was living right in the midst of it.

Sid: You had a vision in which Satan himself came to you what was that like?

Rebecca: Well, it was very close to the time where I think I had come to almost a crossroads in my walk.

Sid: You were suicidal?

Rebecca: Yes, yes because I had done so many drugs and mixing it with alcohol and it was only by a miracle you know that God kept His hand upon my life and didn’t allow me to die. But during that time, and it was one of the darkest periods; you know I could say it was the darkest period of my life where it was the worst place in my life feeling very worthless and useless to anyone else. I was living alone and I had a lot of occultic things in my home so it was a real manifestation of demons in my house. I can remember I used to worship the Rolling Stones music and I just loved Mick Jagger and you know I just listened 12 hours a day, so I was constantly just having this mantra through my head. And so during that time I can remember that Satan appeared before me in a you know a sort of a vision half where he was almost transparent but you could see the figure of his person in front of me and the darkness. He was the beautiful… he came in the image of the image of man and was very beautiful but you know you could see the darkness around him and the red you know at the bottom. And so he was there to entice me to come and to make a vow to him that I would serve him only. And that with that he gave me a promise that “I’ll let you be whatever you want to be a famous world, you know a famous whatever that your heart desires.” And it was at that same time that you know just the lack of direction in my own life that I was seeking to know what I was supposed to do with the rest of my life. Here I was coming to the end you know the last couple years of my college not knowing where I was going to go and do with my life. We also have these fantasies that we want to be somebody famous, rich and famous you know people look up to us. And that night the Lord came to me in a dream too. And I had a dream and I saw the Lord sitting in a boat off the shore and He was calling me out to the boat and He was saying “Come and follow me.” So when I woke up that morning I took out my Bible which I hadn’t looked at in years it was the one from my childhood, the one that I had gotten when I was 12 years old.

Sid: Did he tell you in that dream that this was your last chance?

Rebecca: Yes, He did because…

Sid: Was that scary because you said it wasn’t scary to see the demons; was that scary when God says “This is your last chance?”

Rebecca: Yes, because he had come to me before and he had you know tried to woo me back before and I knew that this was the 3^rd time. That he had you know made this where He was actually coming to tell me that “I need to come back.” I was really going too far out and if I took the next step towards Satan that I was going to be lost because I would have gone you know its so deep into the occult and you know to the witchcraft and Satanism that He was telling me that I needed you know to grab a hold of Him. So I did. I took out my Bible and I flipped it open and the scripture was the only I had gotten when I was a child. You know the one that says that if you would deny yourself and pick up your cross and follow Him.

Sid: But the next day your sister starts talking to you about rock and roll music and what effect did that have on you?

Rebecca: Oh boy, well she had touched all of my sacred cows when she talked to me about this stuff and you know I was very fascinated about what she was telling me because I knew these groups intimately. I had a fascinating especially with the Rolling Stones. And it was very interesting to see that at the same time I knew that I had grieved God’s heart and I knew that I just wept for 3 hours and I really didn’t want to give up my gods you know. But I knew the Lord was saying that I needed to lay it down and give these things up and give up my idol worship and to separate myself from these things. And my heart was convicted by that I knew what she was saying was true. So we went home and I was afraid to go back home actually because I knew that once you recognize the presence of demons in your place it’s scary to go back into it. You know the darkness is there and you’re comfortable you know your comforted by that darkness because they’re familiar spirits they’ve been with you all of this time. But now there was a new Spirit upon me you know the Holy Spirit was working in me and beginning to cleanse me from all of this idol worship and all I had gotten into. I was going to have to go back in it and face it and I was afraid. And so my brother-in-law went with me downtown to my apartment and were cleansing out my house and getting rid of all of the albums and books and everything that was you know tied to that.

Sid: Is it true that when you did that you were instantly delivered from drugs and alcohol?

Rebecca: Oh yeah, oh yeah the Lord was very gracious to me (Chuckling) because He instantly removed…

Sid: Yeah, but what I read you used to take handfuls of drugs and drink vodka straight!

Rebecca: Yeah, yeah, that was something.

Sid: Yeah instantly set free!

Rebecca: Yeah, yeah when I came home from the bar that night and this is a scary thing when I tell people…

Sid: Will you hold that thought we’re out of time.

Sid: I’m speaking to my friend Bob Fischer in Tiberias, Israel. We’re talking about his book “Full circle” which has information that’s in the Dead Sea Scrolls that fills in the missing blanks. How would you like to know the mindset of Jewish people just before Yeshua came in the flesh? How would you like to know what the Essenes believed? The Dead Sea Scrolls tells us and based on their belief Yeshua had to be the Messiah and that’s why, if not the majority almost all the first followers of the Messiah were from the Essene group. The other two groups were Sadducees, Pharisees and then the third were the Essenes. But when you hear these quotes I mean of them they sound like a message from the New Covenant. How could they possibly sound like a message from the New Covenant written way before Yeshua came in the flesh? Easy, the same Spirit that was in Jesus was on these. Because this was Bob Fischer, this was the godly remnant within Judaism of the day.

Bob: Absolutely Sid, its mind boggling to read their understanding for example of the divinity of the Messiah who they expected. They said for example from one of the fragments from Cave 4, and I quote in part “I will be a Father to him and He will be a Son to Me.” This referred to the Branch of David who will rise with the interpreter of the law in the last days as it is written.” Wow! “I will be a Father to Him and He will be a Son to Me from the house of David.” Then we read from another fragment “And He will be great over the earth, He will be designated by His name, He will be called the Son of God. And they will call Him the Son of the Most High. His kingdom will be an eternal kingdom and all of His paths in truth and uprightness; the earth will be in truth and all will make peace. The sword will cease in the earth and all of the cities will pay Him homage. (And get this now) “He is a great God among the gods.”

Sid: Hm. Now when was this written approximately?

Bob: Sometime between 250 BC and the time of Yeshua, but probably most of these were written early.

Sid: So this could have been written Mishpochah 250 years before Jesus came to earth in bodily form and read that quote again that is so amazing.

Bob: “And He will be great over the earth, Great will He will be called and He will be designated by His name He will be called the Son of God. And they will call Him the Son of the Most High. His kingdom will be an eternal kingdom and all of His paths in truth and uprightness; the earth will be in truth and all will make peace. The sword will cease in the earth and all of the cities will pay Him homage. He is a great God among the gods.” For those that are interested that’s 4Q246 I7-9. And there’s one more I’d like to…

Sid: So you feel these quotes came approximate 250 BC and I mean I never knew that Judaism believed this and taught this at that time.

Bob: It’s fascinating…

Sid: How could it be so hidden from us today?

Bob: You know that’s a good question, these Dead Sea Scrolls now remember were only discovered in 1947. By the way, the first 3 of the Dead Sea Scrolls that were discovered were sold to the Hebrew University on the very eve of the day that Israel became a State. And I am absolutely convinced that God was saying something here “I’m giving you your land and simultaneously I’ve telling you more about Myself.” Now I think that this was rather remarkable, why? Because this is very contemporary really in terms of historical events and remember what happened. These scrolls were spread out in the hands of all kinds of people who had no idea of their value or their importance.   People were trying to make a dollar or a shekel. They were suppressed, they were hidden, they were bartered you know they weren’t…it was an absolute colossal exercise in avarice and greed and misunderstanding.

Sid: Listen, I can understand why the devil tried to put a monkey wrench in this but it’s out now. Tell me some more quotes written a few hundred years before Yeshua came in the flesh.

Bob: Okay, let’s talk about I’ve got two or three more that refer to His divinity, how about this one from Cave 1. “For behold God leaves His place and descends upon the heights of the earth. The mountains beneath Him melt and the valley’s split apart like wax next the fire, like water poured down a slope; all because of Jacob’s crime, because of the sins of the House of Israel.

Sid: Hm.

Bob: Here was another one that I think was interesting. “And You Yahweh chose the land of Judah and established your covenant with David so that he would like a shepherd like a prince over your people; and would sick in front of You on the throne of Israel forever.” I’m only reading a small portions of them; some of these are pages long.

Sid: Now when they referred to God back then they referred to God by the name of Yahweh or other names?

Bob: They understood Him to be Yahweh of the Father.

Sid: And for those that don’t understand the name Yahweh explain where that came from.

Bob: It is a Jewish, or a rather Hebrew word that means “I AM.” You know when He was asked what His name was He actually said “I Will Be.” He actually said “I Was, I Am, and I Will Be.” And in Hebrew the form this takes are the letters YHWH. It’s actually its pronounced Yahweh. And this is His name and it really means “I AM, or I Was, or I Will Be.”

Sid: Read me a few more quotes.

Bob: Okay, “They will be My people and I will be there God; and I chose the descendants of Jacob from among all of those I saw; and I registered for Me the first born son and consecrated him to Me forever, and ever.” Now He when I said “For Me.” I had written in Yeshua there because it’s a blank. You have to remember these are fragments. Now we can get into the characteristics of the Messiah, they wrote… they understood that He would be atoning in His nature. You know that He would atone for the sins of the world and they understood that He would be from the lion of the tribe of David. They understood that he would appear in the eschatological end time future. And there are many really exciting…

Sid: So did they from what you can extrapolate did they believe in the two comings of the Messiah?

Bob: Yes they did and it was rather fascinating they believed in His coming the first time and they believed He’s coming back in the same sense that Christian theology had an understanding, believed in the first coming and the second coming.

Sid: Was there anything within their belief system from your study of the Dead Sea Scrolls that would cause them to question whether Jesus was the Messiah?

Bob: Absolutely not! They… that’s why they embraced Him in droves you know when He showed up they were hanging around waiting for Him to come. You know remember we’re talking about probably 100’s of 1000’s of these Nazarene Essene Jews that had all of this information available to them in the Dead Sea Scrolls. And out of the mainline history of idiots that understood the three part God head.

Sid: Now most Christians will say grace came in the New Testament not the Old Testament age yet the Essenes understood grace.

Bob: Oh, you could find Pauline theology written all over the Dead Sea Scrolls and of course that was just one of those…

Sid: So do you think Paul was an Essene?

Bob: I don’t know Paul said he was a Pharisees.

Sid: Well that’s true.

Bob: But you know Paul certainly had an appreciation for the Essene theology.

Sid: So you’re saying to me that Paul would quote things that sounds like it came directly from the Essenes.

Bob: Absolutely. And you know what happened Paul had a miraculous change in his life on the road to Damascus. You know he was walking to Damascus for the purpose of abusing the Nazarene Essenes. And somewhere along the way Yeshua stopped him. And when this encounter was complete Paul continued on his way to Damascus to minister to these people rather than to bring them harm. So there was an incredible transformation in his life at that point on the Damascus Road.

Sid: Well I guess from what you told us what the Pharisees believed for him to go from the Pharisaical belief to the Essene belief, or the New Covenant belief he had to have something supernatural to happen. I mean basically the Pharisees had like their minds were engrained with cement. And as you point out the major views of the Pharisees were they believed in the Talmud, the oral law, they believed in only one God, not a God with a triune nature, and they believed that there would be peace on earth when Messiah comes. So therefore those 3 basic beliefs would stop someone from believing that Jesus is the Messiah.

Bob: Of course. Let me read you a couple of quotes that sound like they came right out of the pages of one of Paul’s Epistles and yet they’re out of the Dead Sea Scrolls with respect to grace. Just short quotes from much longer ones but the point being and here’s an excerpt that I quote from a scroll from Cave 4. “He was…He had circumcised their hearts and He has saved them by His grace, and He has set their feet on firm ground.” That’s one quote, here’s another quote from Cave 1. “For no one is just in Your judgment or innocent at Your trial, only by Your grace is man justified; by the abundance of Your compassion is He purified.”

Sid: Now you point out that our knowledge of the Essenes comes from people like recognized Jewish Historians like Josephus. How about any of the church fathers did they talk about the Essenes?

Bob: Only to criticize them, it’s interesting we get a lot of our information from the church, the early church father who were in the process of de-Judaizing the early church. They went off…

Sid: We’re out of time, Mishpochah this is the most fascinating reading for such a time as this.

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. I heard from God in a dream, three times He said to me, “I’m coming back soon, I’m coming back soon, I’m coming back soon.” I looked up the word “soon” in Webster’s Dictionary. This is what it said: “In a short time after something happens.” That was the definition. Well something is happening. Anyone that’s reading the newspaper, reading the Bible, you know that something is happening. And this is why my next guest has broken the code of the Book of Revelation and you are going to get supernatural revelation, as the Bible says, because He’s coming back soon. So what would you do if a prophet calls you out and tells you things that only God could know and then says, you’re going to have one of the best futures, the best year you’ve ever had and everything falls apart, it’s not such a good year. I tell you what I would do and that my guest John Shorey did. He went into prayer and fasted. What did God show you?

JOHN: Well this minister pointed me out and said that the greatest years of your ministry were ahead of you. My wife and I, we had been children’s evangelists and children’s pastors, and at that time we were part-time children’s pastors and it seemed like our ministry was getting to its end. And for this evangelist to point me out and say, “The greatest years of your ministry are ahead of you,” he said some other things, and over the next year or two, I was seeing all this stuff come to pass. So I went to the Lord in fasting and prayer, and I said, “Lord, I’ve seen the confirmation of this work, except that, what do I need to do that would lead me to the greatest years of my ministry?” Because that’s what I really wanted. And after fasting and praying for several days, it wasn’t an audible voice, but it was that inner voice loud and clear, and it said, “I want you to do a study on the End Times, self-publish it and put it into the hands of pastors, Christian leaders and Christians. And my first initial reaction was, why would pastors want to hear what I have to say about the End Times? But then I said, “Lord, if this is what you want me to do, I’ll do it.”

SID: Okay. What did he show you?

JOHN: Well what happened was I set a year apart to study only the Word of God. I didn’t listen to other teachers and preachers on the End Times. I didn’t read anybody else’s book. I just read the Bible. I was reading the Book of Revelation and I started seeing things I had never seen before.

SID: And not only did you devote that whole year to praying and fasting, and studying the Bible, and not looking at other Christian books or Christian television, but he found out a key that broke open the Book of Revelation, because he had been studying this for years. He has something in him that wanted to understand the Book of Revelation. What was the key that you found?

JOHN: John the Revelator was like, translated to the Throne of God, and Jesus gave him the Book of Revelation. And it’s like he was living, John was living on the Island of Patmos in a prison camp and when Jesus finished giving him the revelation he’s back home to reality in his man cave, kind of, so to speak. And can you imagine him having people delivering parchments and, you know, quills, and he’s writing the Book of Revelation as Jesus gave it to him. And he gets to chapter 10, and all of a sudden an angel interrupts John. Because in chapter 10 of Revelation there’s this angel that shows up and gives John a little, smaller scroll and he says, “John, I want you to read this,” he said actually, “eat it,” you know, read it, “and I want you to prophesy again about people’s nations, people’s languages and nations.” And basically what happened is this angel interrupts John in chapter 10, gives him this scroll that contains four chapters of the Book of Revelation. And when I realized what was going on, it was like, wow, that’s why so many people get confused reading the Book of Revelation because there’s four chapters in here that are like an angelic interruption. From this revelation that God gave me, I was reading Revelation, chapter 16. John had finished writing about the seven bowls, the vials of God’s wrath, and after chapter 16, chapter 17, verse 1, all of a sudden I see another angelic interruption. This angel shows up a second time and gives John two and a half additional chapters of what I call angelic interruptions.

SID: So what you did that’s so amazing is he took the angelic interruptions and put it in the right chronological order, and all of a sudden, the light bulb went on. All of a sudden he understood the revelations of the Book of Revelation. But John, like many Christians, was raised with the belief that there would be a Rapture before the tribulation comes. And I’ll tell you what, if I had a choice, that’s what I would choose, and that’s what he chose. But all of a sudden, God began shining his flashlight on things that have to occur before the Rapture that caused him to change his thinking. And he’ll explain why when we come back.

Sid: We want everyone everywhere to get so excited about the Messiah. I have to tell you I am getting so excited about the Messiah.  Because I’m interviewing in the studio Jeff Burke; and this is a man that knows the mercy of God.  I mean Jeff you could never consider backsliding; you know what’s back there.  And what’s back there is the devil and all of his demons.  You know I’ve been a believer now some 30 years but before I became a believer I was involved for a short season in the New Age. And I’ll tell you I don’t understand backsliders.  You got to be mashugah, that’s a Hebrew word, you got to be crazy to want to step back there with the devil.  But God is using you in such amazing way.  There was a time that you had experience with an angel in an indirect sense; tell me about that.

Jeff:  Well I had taken a job and I was working on driving a truck for a linen company.  And the man that was actually training me was a Spirit-Filled Christian which was another miracle.  But as he’s training me the company said to him, he’d just been married and they said “Will you stay for a week and train him and if you do we’ll let your wife come and stay with you and you can go on your honeymoon the next week.  But we’ll pay for your wife an extra room so you can stay together.”  So we got a place, it was called Strick’s Motel in Vidalia, Georgia.  It had an open court yard and so we’d driven up that evening and we’d eaten and I went to my room.  His room was downstairs on the left him and his wife. My room was right above the steps and right below the steps was Coke machines and crackers and things.  There was a construction crew staying there and I noticed when I came in, I didn’t pay too much attention, but they had kegs and they were kind of having partying and drinking.

Sid: Right.

Jeff:  But I didn’t pay it much attention and so I went up to my room. When I went to my room I went in and I had just learned about God and that you could really talk to God. But the amazing thing is that God really talked back.  So I came to know prayer is communication with God.  That you talk to God and He talks back.  And so I was really having a great good time because it was amazing so many things were happening.  And so I also found out that I could do more than what I called eyebrow praying, which you know you grab your eyebrows and just squeeze them (Laughing) and don’t say anything.  But then I learned that you really could talk out loud to God.  So I was talking out loud to God and just sharing my heart and just probably yelling and screaming and it’s just having a good time.  And I heard a “bam bam bam” on the wall and I heard kind of a muffled voice going “Would you shut up in there.”  And I said “Oh, I’ve offended somebody in the other room.”  And so I quieted down; I mean I didn’t stop but I quieted down. So…and then a little bit later it was getting dark and I heard under the corridor there where the crackers and cokes they came and they began to shout at my room. And they begin to curse me and they begin to mock the Lord’s prayer and they began to do those type of things. So I go up and I started for the door.  And the Lord said “Where are you going?”  And I said “Well, I’m going down there and to tell them I got as much right to pray as they got to party.”   And so He said… the Lord said to me “I thought that you said “That you would let me handle these things for now on.” I said, “Well Lord I did, I did say that.”  He said “Do you think I can handle it?” (Laughing) I said “Okay Lord I’m going to go back and pray but I got to sleep because of this new job.” So I prayed and I went on to sleep. And the next morning I took a shower, came out of the room.  I opened the door and as I’m opening the door the man next to me is coming out of his room.  Now he looks over and sees me coming out and he screams and just yells.

Sid: Why?

Jeff:  I have no clue, and then he jumped back in and slams the door and just goes “Ahh” and he jumps back in and slams the door. And I’m going “Wonder why he did that it must have been the guy that got so offended with me about praying.” And so I’m walking towards the steps and I look up and there’s another man kind of hung over.  He’s got his hand on his head and as he does he’s walking towards me and he’s walking towards me. He looks up and he sees me and he stops dead still in his tracks and goes “Ahh.”  Just like the other guy and turns around and he starts running and runs back to his room and runs into his room.  And I’m going “Well, this could be offensive.”  (Laughing)  So I turn and I walk down the steps and I walk into this open courtyard and there’s a man across the courtyard and yells at me. And say’s “Hey man I just want you to have a good day today.”  I’m going, “Well thanks” and he gives; “No, no I’m really serious, I really want you to have a good day.” And I’m going well thank you very much. So we get in the truck and we start out on the route and so the man that’s training me who has his wife downstairs and he says to me. He says “Jeff, what about those guys last night?”  And I said “Oh yeah, they came into my room and they were cussing me out.” And he said “What did you say to them?”  And I said “Oh, I didn’t say anything to them.”  He said “It’s all right you’re not going to get fired or anything.”  He said “I would really like to know what you said them.”  I said “I didn’t say anything, to them and he said “Really, it’ll be okay it really will.”  And he said “Tell me what you said” and I said, “I didn’t say anything.” He said “Look I know that you did because I, me and my wife was looking out the window and we looked out the window we saw you come and stand right in the middle of them and talk to them.” And then the Spirit of the Lord just spoke to me and said “Son I told you I would handle this thing.”  And He said “You want to know how I handled it?” I said, “Lord how?”  And He said to me “What happened is I caused an angel to go down and take on your appearance and speak to them”

Sid: I’ll tell you Mishpochah Jeff sees lots of angels and I believe God is about ready to release angels to minister on behalf of those who believe in the Name of Jesus. How could you ever be afraid of anything Jeff, when God says “You can take care of it or I will.”  I’ll have God take care of it any day.  I want you to press into the Spirit and minister to people right now.

Jeff:  As I’m sitting here the Lord had already dropped something in my spirit. And there’s a man and your name is John and I believe that you’re around the Savannah area.  I believe you’re even in Pooler because I keep seeing the city limit signs of Pooler.  As I’m looking down on the right side of your body, and you’re very concerned and in fact you haven’t told anyone in particular; you haven’t told your family.  Your wife in particular but the Lord… I believe your wife’s name is Gladys I believe that’s the name I hear. God wants you to know that He’s going to heal you.  He’s going to heal you just cry out and ask for the healing God to come.  He does want to please you; He does want to minister to you and He does want to heal you.  So right now in the Name of Jesus I thank you for the healing in that particular spot that I’m seeing Lord and I just ask you to bring the healing; that knot Lord.  I believe the doctors would call it a hydro-seal I believe that’s what they call it.  So Father in Jesus Name I thank you for the healing of God.  Also around the Statesboro area the Lord.  The Lord hadn’t given me your married name but I just see a maiden name Joyce Waters.  And God wants to restore you back to something  around ages 14 to 17 in particular. God want to minister to you; He wants to restore you.  And there’s been some really hard hard stuff in your life. Particularly in the last 5 years. But God wants to bring a blessing; wants to bring a blessing back.  And a praise the Lord. And that couple that’s listening in St. Simons and you’ve walked in the things of God and the power of God. And you’ve had some real disappointments and some real hurts.  But God’s just going to bring the Balm of Gilead and it’s just going to pour it upon those open wounds.  And you’re going to be restored and the giftings that are in you are going to come back like never before. And God’s going to open up some opportunities. So let this be a season of God just pouring back into you.  Praise the Lord.  And Father I want to thank You for that police officer; and African American man I believe your name is George and you do some things with narcotics. But there’s a pulling and you have someone on the force that’s really been kind of… you’re kind of amazed by some things.  And God just wants you to know that He’s showing you some things that He wants to pull you into some things. Actually He’s going to answer some prayers that were prayed over you when you were about 6 years old by two Aunties.  God just going to pour in; that drawing you feel really is… and this is a part of the protection for your life. And so I urge you just to look and listen to that man, a man named Elliot.  So listen to him because it’ll be a blessing for you.

Sid:  You know Mishpochah this is Sid Roth and I’m speaking with Jeff Burke and the way that he’s moving in the Spirit right now is the way that God wants you to move.  If you draw near to God He will draw near to you.