Our Guest Art Thomas
ART: So April 2011 I’m healed of a degenerative disc disease. And I started healing ministry in August 2009 so for a year and a half I’m suffering. I’m taking vicodin to survive watching other people’s degenerative discs get healed. You know?
JAMIE: Right.
ART: But the good news is like God formed my theology of healing in the midst of that! Like I had to push through what I was experiencing and say I’m not going to let – I’m not going to be a disciple of disappointment or else all I’m going to be able to do is reproduce disappointment!
JAMIE: Mmm!
ART: I’m not supposed to learn from the downside. Fix your mind on things above not on earthly things.
JAMIE: Yeah.
ART: You know the degenerative discs that was an earthly thing so I wasn’t going to learn from that. Fix your eyes on Jesus! Be His disciple and you’ll reproduce Jesus.
JAMIE: Wow! Okay. So you’re saying that as we look to Jesus there’s healing.
ART: Bingo!
JAMIE: Right. There’s healing in Jesus. Do you believe that that same – the same – I guess the same covenantal promises that are for forgiveness of sin are also healing the sick?
ART: Oh yeah! When the paralyzed man’s lowered through the roof at the feet of Jesus and He says son, your sins are forgiven and then He looks at the crowd and He’s like I know you don’t believe that can happen, right? But to prove to you that the Son of man has authority on earth to forgive sins get up, take your mat and walk. If forgiveness and healing were not based on the same thing then that would not have been proof!
JAMIE: Wow! This is fascinating. I think this is really next level stuff because there’s got to be a connection between forgiveness and healing!
ART: Yeah!
JAMIE: Hey look! We’re with Art Thomas here talking about healing. I’m going to ask him a question about forgiveness and the connection between that and healing in our next segment! You don’t want to miss this because there’s something there for breakthrough for you! [music begins] I believe God wants to give you breakthrough and I’m going to ask Art to pray with us and release that for us in this next segment! We’ll see you then!
JAMIE: Welcome back! Jamie Galloway here. I’ve got Art Thomas! We’re talking about healing and I have something super interesting to ask him because I feel so many people miss this! Luke 17.
ART: Uh-huh.
JAMIE: His disciples, Jesus’s disciples – you know they’re coming to Him and they ask Him how does He do these miracles? You know how? And Jesus says this interesting thing. You know if you have the faith as a mustard seed. Right? If you have faith you could cast this mountain you know right here into the sea!
ART: Huh!
JAMIE: But what’s interesting to me we all apply that to miracles but they’re actually if you back it up just a little bit they’re actually asking about forgiveness.
ART: Hmm!
JAMIE: And it’s a weird thing because so many of us struggle with forgiveness like it’s a big mountain in our life.
ART: [laughs]
JAMIE: And we need faith.
ART: Yeah.
