Archive for December, 2020
Our Guest Marilyn Hickey
MARILYN: But Jesus in us. The Lord said to me “if you will continue to press into the word and into faith, there’ll come a day when people come out of wheelchairs.” And folks, it didn’t happen overnight. It was a process faith, walking in faith, speaking the word, sometimes seeing it, praying for people to live, and a few died. But holding in, keeping in. Keep doing it. And so I learned to walk into faith, into healing miracles because the name of Jesus does it. He’s our Provision. So I want to give you 5 ways He heals the sick. Now I personally believe there are 22, but I don’t think you’ll stay here that long. So I want to give you 5 ways He heals the sick.
I said to the Lord one time, “How come you have so many ways to heal the sick?” He said, “Because if they don’t get healed this way, then I have another one. And if they don’t get healed this way, I have another one.” So I’m going to tell you you’ll be embarrassed to leave sick today. He has so many ways that He wants us to be whole. Now I want you to know when we studied Jehovah Rophe [God our Healer] my understanding is that “the Lord heals” also means “health.” So the Lord can heal you today and keep you healthy. Now who got this revelation? Moses. How long did he live? 120 years. His natural force was not abated and his eye was not dimmed. Why? Because he got the revelation of the Lord, our Health. So that’s very key for us today.
We get healed sometimes, we get wonderful healing and the miracles and then 8 months later we’re sick again. No, no, no. We are supposed to walk in health. And Nahum 1:9 says “this affliction shall not return the second time.” Amen? Okay, so the first way I want to talk to you about healing, and I love this, this is in Luke 5 is where the 4 men take their friend and cut a hole in the roof and let him into the presence of Jesus. Now the Bible says there “the power of the Lord was present to heal.” So power here has to do with “dunamis,” anointing. Everybody say, “Anointing.” (audience says “Anointing”) So I’m sure you’ve been in services and even at certain times for yourself a special anointing for healing. And that is so wonderful. I love that. I think there are certain ministries you know, you worship the Lord, worship the Lord and they wait until an anointing comes through the worship, you know, and then they begin to pray for the sick. So there is an anointing that heals the sick, but all of these take faith. And faith comes by?
AUDIENCE: Hearing.
MARILYN: And hearing by the?
AUDIENCE: Word of God. MARILYN: Word of God. There were 4 crazy faith friends. Because anybody’s crazy who would drag a paralyzed man up on a roof. I think the paralyzed man is kind of crazy too! Would you let somebody drag you up on a roof? What if you fall and that’s the end of it all? But he had faith. And so the friends, they have so much faith, they cut a hole in the roof. Now that means either they have to pay to have it fixed or fix it themselves. So I mean they’re willing to put their faith on the line, their money, whatever.
They believe their friend would be healed. So they drop him into the presence of Jesus. And what is it? The power of the Lord was present to heal. And there are times I have felt His power so strong, such anointing for healing and miracles. And he was healed. But it said “Jesus saw their faith.” Everybody say: “their faith.” (Audience says ‘their faith”). And he was healed, he was forgiven. It’s a wonderful, wonderful testimony for us. That crazy faith friends can get their relatives healed. Amen? And getting people to stand with you and have faith in the anointing.
Our Guest Art Thomas
ART: Welcome everybody! It’s great to have you with us here. And my name is Art Thomas. I’m going to be talking to you tonight about healing. Now what I’ve learned is that when I’m in Africa I really only have to give a three minute teaching on healing, in fact less than that. Really all I teach is Jesus wants to heal. He wants to use you to do it so here’s how you do it. Lay hands on someone. Say “be healed in Jesus name” and then have them test it out. If it works praise Jesus. If it doesn’t do it again. Keep going until you see either they’re done and they don’t want you to anymore or you see it’s healed. Or you find that you’re in yourself you’re striving and so you just have to kind of recognize all right I don’t have the faith for it today. And I just do that. I confess to person I’m sorry.
If Jesus was standing here you would be healed right now instead you got me. And I’m not perfectly like Him but I’m growing and I want to be. All right? And I tell people keep seeking healing. Now that is so much more encouraging to a person than when we say there’s probably something wrong with you. Probably hidden sin in your life. Maybe you didn’t have enough faith. Cause now that’s funny to us because we’ve all heard it. But I can’t tell you how many meetings I go to where someone comes up to me in tears saying 20 years ago someone told me I had hidden sin and that’s why I’m not healed yet and I’ve been seeking God for 20 years and He won’t tell me what that sin is. And I’m like I know why. And they go why? I say because it’s not there. You know? That’s not what Jesus did.
When the epileptic boy wasn’t healed He didn’t pin it on the little boy. He didn’t pin it on the boy’s dad even. So biblically like family members are even like set aside because Jesus knows the emotional strain on us as family members because we love so much and we care so much. But when it comes to learning faith I always encourage people don’t learn faith in the context of your family because it’s really hard to disengage from the heavy emotion attached to it. Usually we’re like well I’ve prayed for this person 300 times and it’s just not going to happen. You know? So what I do when I teach in Africa, real short teaching and then we see people healed left and right. But when I do this in America sometimes that little statement right there everybody’s like whoa, whoa, whoa, hold up! I’ve got some questions. Which is great. You should question things.
In fact the reason I have a whole bunch of answers for you is because I questioned everything. I was the guy that took a whole three whole months of arguing against the possibility that God always wants to heal and I brought every one of those questions to the scripture. I brought all of them to the Holy Spirit. I said Lord this doesn’t make sense. This doesn’t make sense. I was asking questions about Paul’s thorn in the flesh. Questions about Timothy leaving Trophimus sick in Miletus. You know telling Timothy to drink a little wine because of his frequent illnesses. You know the city of unbelief, Nazareth, where you know Jesus could only work a few miracles. I brought all those questions to the Lord and guess what? He answered all of them. And He answered them so satisfactorily, like I’m a very logical thinker. I like to process through things. If it doesn’t make sense I’m not sold.
Our Guest John Bevere
JOHN: We worked for two very large ministries, worldwide ministries back in the 1980’s. One had a staff of 450 people, the other one had a staff of 150 people. When we were launched into our own ministry in 1990 I came up with a new concept of leadership. Every employee’s going to be my best friend. So some of you already know the stupidity of that wisdom. Okay. So I hired our first guy on. His name was John. And I employed my new strategy. He’s my best buddy. So we’re playing basketball, we would even watch videos, he’d hang out at the house constantly, he’d eat dinner with us all the time, best— the guy was great the first year, until I had to bring some minor correction to him. Because at our resource table he was treating people kind of rude.
And so I sat him down after a year and I said, John, listen, these are God’s people. We love them. I don’t want you to be unapproachable at the table. I want you to smile more, I want you to help them. And he looks back at me, no kidding, and he points his finger at me and he starts railing on me. Well you’re this and you’re that and you’re this. And I’m sitting there going, “Ho, my, my.” So I immediately look inside, I said Lord, what do I do? And the Lord said, “Fire him.” So I let him completely vent. And when he’s done venting, I said, “Well you can’t work for Messenger International anymore. I’m going to have to ask you to leave. Well he storms out. He’s mad. And I start crying “cause I really cared about the guy. Now I’m crying and the Holy Spirit speaks to me and says, “He will be back working for you and he will be twice as faithful.” So three months go by, I haven’t heard a peep from him, don’t know what’s going on in his life, I have no idea. And I get a phone call from him. He says, John, this is John. He said for the (laughter).
He said for the last, for the, for the last three months God has dealt with me and really spoken to me like He’s never spoken to me before. He said, John, I lost sight of the place God had put you in my life. I lost sight of the place God had placed me in your life. He said I started treating you as common and ordinary. He said I did the same thing with Lisa and he said God has really dealt with me. And he said I am just calling to tell you I am so sorry. I really, really misunderstood and lost sight of who you were in my life. I said John, I forgive you. Well I talked a few more minutes. I said would you, would you come back and work for us? He said “Absolutely!” He came back and worked for us, we never had problems with him in that area again. Now 24 years later I have a new policy. I have 30 employees, right?
My policy now is I will not share intimate things of my life with any of my employees until I know first of all they’re very established in who God made them to be in my life and Lisa’s life and until, well they’re very established in who I am in their life and they’re very established in who they are in my life. Right? Are you with me? Because I don’t want to destroy— and I don’t do this because I’m scared to reveal my heart to my employees. I don’t want to destroy them like I almost destroyed that young man. But once I know an employee of ours, a team member of ours is very established in who I am, and very established in who they are, I’ll bring them in. Some of my employees are my closest friends. Okay?