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RYAN: Hello. Welcome to “Something More.” My name is Ryan Bruss. And I’m here with Laurie Ditto. Thank you for being with us.

LAURIE: [laughs] Thank you.

RYAN: And the name of this program today is “Encountering Heaven.” And Laurie has had many experiences in heaven with the Lord. And heaven’s a real place.

LAURIE: Yes.

RYAN: I know it’s in the Bible. I know we talk about it, we sing about it. But it is real.

LAURIE: It is real.

RYAN: And you really have been there.

LAURIE: [laughs] Yes.

RYAN: Well, talk about that. I mean, it’s real.

LAURIE: It is. You know, it’s better than anything that I can tell you. You can’t exaggerate the beauty, and the splendor, and the happiness, and the joy that’s in heaven. And it’s our home. And that’s where we’re headed. Hallelujah.

RYAN: So, are we going to be, when we go to heaven, are we going to be – Are there cherubs that are going to be flying around –

LAURIE: [laughs]

RYAN: – just handing us grapes? And we’re going to be laying around all day? What, Is it a real city? Is it a real kingdom?

LAURIE: [laughs] It is. And I didn’t see that. Although, I have seen angels. They’re mighty. They’re big. When they wear their wings it’s like they’re in dress uniform.

RYAN: Wow.

LAURIE: So it’s a wonderful place. It’s an operating city that I was in. There’s an operating city. And we can’t wait to get there.

RYAN: But it’s a kingdom.

LAURIE: Amen.

RYAN: And there’s a lot. And Jesus said pray like this, “Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done.”

LAURIE: That’s right.

RYAN: So I know you have a real passion to bring heaven down to earth because it’s real. And you talk about how earth is like a playground –

LAURIE: [laughs]

RYAN: – you know, that God made for us.

LAURIE: Right. Right. And so, in heaven there are principles. There are heavenly principles that we really need, to operate in those, to see the kingdom break forth in our lives. So truth is a kingdom principle.

RYAN: Right.

LAURIE: And truth brings us into that reality. So there are a lot of words that were designed for heaven. And if we use them correctly here on the earth then we will get the same principle in heaven that’s happening here.

RYAN: Now you’ve had many encounters in heaven.

LAURIE: Yes.

RYAN: And, tell me about the red dress heaven story.

LAURIE: [laughs] That time I got to heaven, Ryan, I noticed I was not in the typical clothing. Most of the clothing in heaven is beautiful white clothing. And if you could take every single color – and there are colors in heaven that are not on the earth – if you could take every single color and compress it into a dot it would create sequins of, like light. That’s the white. And I was wearing this red dress that was, it was not a beautiful red dress.

RYAN: Hm.

LAURIE: It was cut all wrong. It was for a girl. It was much too tight. Just not a good dress. And I felt very self-conscious in that dress. And there were angels trying to take me to see the Lord, and I didn’t want to go, because I felt inadequate.

RYAN: Inadequate. Yeah.

LAURIE: So I got there. And when they arrived the Lord went to touch my hands. And He loves to grab ahold of us,

RYAN: Really?

LAURIE: or, you know, put His arm around us.

RYAN: And that’s missing in today’s world.

LAURIE: [laughs]

RYAN: A lot of putting your arm around, you know, that touchy –

LAURIE: That’s true. It’s true.

RYAN: So Jesus is kind of touchy-feely. [laughs]

LAURIE: [laughs] And He’s awesome. It’s awesome.

RYAN: Right.

LAURIE: And as soon as He went to touch me, I said, “Don’t touch me, Lord.” And right away He said, “What is the accusation.” And it just started coming out of me. [Sighs] I started telling Him how I don’t believe I am who You say I am.

RYAN: Wow.

LAURIE: Meaning, I didn’t think that I was special or important. And then He would hear that, and He would ask for more. And when the Lord asks for an answer from one of His servants it just, you’re going to answer. And sometimes I didn’t realize the answer that was coming out. I said to Him, “I am a prostitute.” Which was shocking there,

RYAN: Right.

SID: Tommy, tell me about your meeting in Angola.

TOMMY: Angola, Africa, three-night meeting, 50,000 in the audience, 50,000 showed up in the meeting. The glory mist rolled over the meeting. It was like a smoke, a campfire, but we had no campfires, but there was like campfires, and the smoke was all over the crowd. I made the altar call and 12,000 came out of that 50,000. We had 12,000 saved in that night.

During that meeting, there were so many miracles. You mentioned it earlier about the 25 deaf and dumb, they were just instantly healed. Let me tell you what they said. They had never heard any language, never heard any language, so when I spoke to them and said say Jesus, they said Jesus in Alabama English because they never heard it anywhere else. But, the glory, and the demons would run. There were demons running, running, running out of the field. We had a large ball field type and the demons would run.

SID: Now, did you see this? What do you mean the demons would run?

TOMMY: The people possessed of the enemy, possessed of the devil would come upon the scene and the mist would surround them, the glory mist, they would turn and run, and run out of the area, run out there screaming, screaming, holding their ears and screaming. That’s what the power of God does. It runs the enemy out of your life.

TOMMY: Runs the enemy out of your life.

SID: Tommy, I believe when that glory comes at full level; we’re not going to have to deal with sickness, we’re not going to have to deal with demons, we’re not going to have to deal with problems. The only problem we are going to have is we will have an insatiable hunger for God.

SID: Until we get to Heaven, it won’t be totally fulfilled, but it’s going to be really close with this glory, this greater glory.

TOMMY: We need to create what I call a throne zone, a throne zone, a throne zone in your home, a throne zone that we can worship God in that throne zone.

TOMMY: Get you a good CD player, get you some good music on the air, so you create that atmosphere for worship. Get the atmosphere for worship going…

TOMMY: … on and then plead the blood of Jesus. Pray, pray like you’ve never prayed before. The prayer is the key. Prayer is the key. Get your prayer life.

SID: You talked about praying in tongues, in supernatural language.

TOMMY: Pray in your language, pray in tongues, pray in your supernatural prayer language because you’re communicating with God and God’s communicating back. Sometimes we need to not pray and listen to what God’s got to say sometime. That’s part of prayer also. But when we create that throne zone, it’s like the high priest going behind the last veil and going into the throne zone if you will, and there is the glory. The glory was there when he got that. That’s what we’ve got to do, create this throne zone. Then, here comes your children, here comes your grandchildren, and here comes your spouse in the house; and the glory of God has penetrated the house. The glory of God has penetrated so much, they come into the house, their lives are changed. Their lives are changed. Children are saved, grandchildren are saved simply because you’ve created a throne zone and attracted the glory by pleading the blood of Jesus and praying. That creates the throne zone.

SID: I want you to declare right now the blood and the glory on everyone viewing us or in the studio audience.

TOMMY: Lord, I come to you today, I thank you, and I praise you for everything we have or ever hoped to have, but most of all, God in heaven, Father God, I thank you for sending Jesus to us. Jesus, we thank you for doing your assignment and Holy Ghost. We thank you for being right now. God, I declare the glory of God comes to all of us, the glory of God in so much measure that no man can count it, that no one can understand it, what has happening when the glory of God.

God, I plead the blood of Jesus right now over everyone watching, over everyone in the studio, everyone here. God, I declare this place, this Sid Roth studio as a presence and an open portal for God. From this day forward, an open presence of God rules this place. It takes over. As the audience comes in, they’re healed. The presence of God flows, and there’s presence of God flowing today right into you. Say, “I receive it now.”

Audience: I receive it now.

SID: I receive it now-

TOMMY: In the name of Jesus-

SID: … in the name of Jesus.

TOMMY: … I receive it now.

Audience: I receive it now.

TOMMY: In Jesus’ name.

Audience: In Jesus’ name.

SID: In Jesus’ name.

TOMMY: It’s done.

Audience: It’s done.

SID: It’s done.

TOMMY: I expect the glory.

Audience: I expect the glory.

SID: I expect the glory.

TOMMY: Come on, say it. I expect the glory.

SID: I expect the glory.

Audience: I expect the glory.

TOMMY: It’s happening now in Jesus’ name.

SID: Amen.

TOMMY: Hey, give God some glory. Give God some glory.

TOMMY: I praise you, father, Son, and Holy Ghost. I worship you, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost in the name of Jesus.

SID: In the glory, it is breakthrough in you having your own experiential knowledge of God, and the glory of God is here. The glory of God is here to heal you; to fill you with his spirit; speaking in supernatural languages; to live inside of him and you; and have that own encounter, that own experience with God, not someone else’s, not Tommy’s, not mine, yours.

SID: I want you to repeat this prayer after me out loud and mean it to the best of your ability. Dear God-

TOMMY: Dear God-

Audience: Dear God-

SID: … I’ve made many mistakes.

Audience: … I’ve made many mistakes.

TOMMY: … I’ve made many mistakes.

SID: I’m truly sorry.

Audience: I’m truly sorry.

TOMMY: I’m truly sorry.

SID: I believe-

Audience: I believe-

TOMMY: I believe-

SID: … the blood of Jesus-

Audience: … the blood of Jesus-

TOMMY: … blood of Jesus-

SID: … removes every mistake I’ve ever made.

TOMMY: … removes every mistake I’ve ever made.

Audience: … removes every mistake I’ve ever made.

SID: I am clean.

TOMMY: I am clean.

Audience: I am clean.

SID: Oh, God-

Audience: Oh, God-

TOMMY: Oh, God-

SID: … now that I’m clean-

Audience: … now that I’m clean-

TOMMY: … now that I’m clean-

SID: … come inside of me.

TOMMY: … come inside of me.

Audience: … come inside of me.

SID: Take over my life.

Audience: Take over my life.

TOMMY: Take over my life.

SID: I make you my Lord.

Audience: I make you my Lord.

TOMMY: Make you my Lord.

SID: Get ready for the glory of God-

TOMMY: Amen.

SID: … to overtake you.

SID: Tommy, this greater glory, I’ve been using this term for a long time, and you use this term, but it’s actually in the Bible, the greater glory. Tell me about it.

TOMMY: The latter house will be greater than the former house. The glory is going to come like we’ve never seen before. Now, we’ve had people say, “It’s going to be a cumulation of everything we’ve seen in the past.”

SID: I’ve heard people say that.

TOMMY: …who say that. No, no.

SID: I don’t agree either.

TOMMY: No, no. It’s going to be greater than that. I’m talking about it’s going to be the greatest glory moved that we’ve ever seen when God’s presence just shows up.

SID: You say the glory is greater than even healing.

TOMMY: Greater. The miracles will be just … You and I’ve talked before about popcorn miracles, where there’s miracle, miracle, miracle, miracle. That’s what’s going to, what I’m talking about. We’re talking about people coming into the presence of God in such a strong way. I’m talking about the presence of God in your home, the presence of God at your workplace, presence of God in our churches, presence of God in our businesses. The presence of God is so strong that when people are attracted to that, you’re walking down the street in the presence of God attracts people, and they go, “What is it you have? What is it? Tell me about what you have. What is it?” They fall to their knees, cry, and say, “Well, there’s something about you I want to know about.” That’s what I’m talking about. The present glory is going to be so strong.

SID: Now, you talk about something I don’t hear too many people talk about, but there are literally portals, or like Jacob had the the ladder, that go from heaven to earth, the angels come up and down, but they are breaking out in churches and homes. You were telling me of the one you went to in Moravian Falls.

TOMMY: I’m preaching up there at the Gathering Church.

Do you sense the greater glory here?

TOMMY: Angels walking on the stage, walking on the stage behind me in the crowd. I’m thinking, “Boy, they’re getting this, and, Tommy, you’re doing real good.” Now, they’re seeing the angels. They’re seeing the angels back here, is what they’re saying. They’re all excited…

TOMMY: … about the angels. But in that service, a lady drove down from New Jersey, brought her husband who had a brain bleed and a tumor on the brain. She brought him to be healed. At the end of the service, I began to pray for people to be healed.

I curse this in Jesus’ name.

TOMMY: She brought him down.

Be healed now.

TOMMY: Her daughter, 22 years old, been away from God now many years.

TOMMY: Didn’t want anything to do with church, but she drove mom-

Pain.

TOMMY: … and daddy to that meeting.

It’s gone.

TOMMY: She’s there and God healed him.

It’s gone.

TOMMY: God healed the man of a brain bleed and a tumor on the brain.

Presence of God.

TOMMY: There was so much glory and so much power in that situation, around that meeting, that night; this girl goes back home, falls on her knees, accepts Jesus Christ as her savior. This girl has the number one healing ministry in the state of New Jersey right now…

TOMMY: … because the glory came on the scene.

SID: It’s so important. This is what I believe, Tommy. This glory will be a two-edged sword. If you repent to your sins, it will be the greatest thing that ever happened to you. But if you hold on to those old habits, it’ll be the worst thing that ever happened to you. Tell me about when the Israelis invaded and took over the Canaanite homes. What did they find in the walls?

TOMMY: God said, “You will have houses you didn’t build.” That’s what he told them, told the people.

SID: Right, he prophesied.

TOMMY: They go across the Jordan, they take houses that they did not build. The enemy knew they were coming, so the enemy put idols in the walls and hid idols in the walls of those houses. The priest told them, clean the house, and they would bring the priest in and cleaned the house. If they didn’t get the idols completely out of the house, the house was torn down to be rebuilt. Then, they found the idols in the walls. God wants a clean house. God wants a clean house in me, God wants a clean house in you, but he also wants our home to be pure. He wants our…

TOMMY: … homes to be, but way you do it, and you said the word, the blood. When is the last time you go through your home pleading the blood of Jesus? When’s the last time you went through your home praying in that beautiful prayer language, that heavenly language?

SID: What do you mean? What do you mean by pleading the blood of Jesus?

TOMMY: Jesus said, “Use my name and plead my blood.”

By plead the blood, you say, “I plead the blood of … you speak it. You speak it like, “I pray the blood. I plead the blood. I’m asking the blood to come on the scene.” God moves on faith. Satan moves on fear. You’ve got to move that fear out of your life and get the blood to move for you. The glory, when you get in the blood scene, the blood of Jesus, the blood of Jesus, oh, God, I feel it now, the blood of Jesus; then, the glory loves that.

SID: It attracts.

TOMMY: The glory of God, it attracts.

SID: The blood.

TOMMY: The blood attracts the glory.

SID: Tommy, the blood attracts the glory. The idols attract the demonic.

TOMMY: That’s right.

SID: My mother didn’t raise a dummy. Who wants the demonic in my home? When we return, I’m going to ask Tommy to reveal his secrets and pray that the glory of God overtakes you. Be right back.

KEVIN: think about that you would look for, you don’t. I was stuck on His face; I could not look away. I could not look away from His eyes. He had a lot of beautiful hair. It was He had long hair.

SID: What did you feel, when you were looking in His eyes?

KEVIN: I knew, when I saw the spot in His eyes where I formed, as a thought.

SID: Hmm!

KEVIN: And I saw that in His eyes; and He thought of Me, and He breathed me out, and I became a spirit, and then I was sent to my mother’s womb. And I saw that everything that He thought about me was formed into my spirit, and then sent to the body. And that I was standing before Him now, at the end of my life, is what I thought; and that I was giving an account for what I had done. And I realized that everything about me, that was the true me, was part of Him. I

SID: What was the first thing He said?

KEVIN: He said to me, He said, “Kevin, “

SID: And by the way, did He speak, or was it thoughts?

KEVIN: Oh, He spoke.

SID: Okay.

KEVIN: And it His voice

SID: Did He gave a good radio voice like I don’t?

KEVIN: [laughing] Yes,

SID: [laughs]

KEVIN: He had a very good, strong voice; it seemed as though things vibrated when He talked. And I didn’t have a physical body, but His voice was very strong. And so, His words are, are fire; that His words, are the what they talk about in the Bible; they can even “split the cedars of Lebanon.” the Lord’s voice roars; and so He had that about him. Everything He said was simply the truth; He did not waste words.

SID: But the very first s- statement was what?

KEVIN: He said, “Kevin, in Matthew 12:36”, and I had to go look it up; He said, “I told the Disciples “

SID: We won’t tell anyone that; it’s just between the two of us. [chuckles]

KEVIN: [chuckling] Yeah; He told, “My Disciple”, He said,

SID: [chuckles]

KEVIN: “I told My Disciples”, He said He said, “You will be held accountable for every idle word that comes out of your mouth.”

SID: Why does that scare me so much, every time I read that? Could it be I have some words that are that are “idle”? [laughs]

KEVIN: Yes. And so, He saw that I was taken back because I thought that we were going to the Celestial City and He was welcoming me into Heaven, and yet, He starts teaching me right away. And He is a Teacher a very strong one and so what He did was He came up closer to me, because He saw that I was shocked by what He had said; it hit me hard. I felt convicted because I was a talker; and I would talk about anything and say anything that came to my mind. But I did not adhere to the chapters in James; it talks about our tongue being a “rudder”. And so the rudder of our life, it says in- in the Scriptures is that our tongue, what we say steers our life; and that if we can control our tongue, we can control our whole life. And so, I looked at Him, and He came very close to me. He came and He whispered; really close to me, He said, “You know when I said that, I meant that”, and He stepped back and smiled! And that’s when I realized

SID: You know when I but when I read the Bible, and I read that particular Scripture, I know He meant that without Him even being here; and I still talk more than I should.

KEVIN: Well, the thing about Him, that I can tell you is that everything that’s red letters in the Bible is from His mouth; and that when He said it, it changed something inside of me. I actually felt as though there were pieces of the puzzle that were not completely flush, and in place; things started to be adjusted inside of me immediately. The words that He spoke to me had now become reality in my spirit,, inside of me. It corrected me.

SID: Hmm.

KEVIN: And I made some adjustments down in there immediately, and repented in my heart. And at that point, we just went on; He just went on to like, correction.

SID: Okay. I want I want I want to fast-forward.

KEVIN: Yes sir.

SID:, you, how did you find out you had to come back? Or, that you were coming back?

KEVIN: Well I didn’t. And

SID: You didn’t?

KEVIN: I was

SID: You didn’t’ come back?

KEVIN: No, I did.

SID: [laughs]

KEVIN: [smiling] I did. I didn’t think I was coming back, and I was so excited, and very happy. But about halfway through the 45-minutes, I started to realize that He was talking about things that had pertained to the realm of the Earth, as far as the truth. So when He was teaching me, He was talking to me about the power of prayer, He was talking to me about the things that He has intentions for us; angel activity; He talked to me very long about word as well. And then He started to introduce me to a ministry, as He saw it. And at that point, I started to realize, “This is not going to the Celestial City. This is not talking to Bible characters, and seeing my new mansion”, and I started to think, “Well what’s going on here?” And I listened to every word He said because it was so powerful. But I’ll tell you, Sid, one thing that I did think right away; I thought, “You know what, if I had known the truth as much as I do right now by listening to Him, I sure would live a different life if I came back.”

SID: Hmm.