Our Guest Jonathan Bernis
SID: Sid Roth with Something More. I’m with my good friend Jonathan Bernis and you know Jonathan from Jewish Voice. You’ve probably seen him on television. Jonathan, you have a passion for the Lost Tribes. Question One: What are the Lost Tribes?
JONATHAN: Well there’s two definitions of Lost Tribes. I’ll give ‘em both to you. The narrow definition is that in 722 B.C. the northern ten tribes of Israel were taken into captivity by the Assyrians. It’s called the Assyrian captivity. This is at a time when Israel and Judah were divided. Ten in the north, 2 tribes in the south. And they were never heard from again. We don’t read about them coming back from the Assyrian captivity and so in a narrow sense the ten lost tribes are those ten tribes that were taken by the Assyrians and we don’t know what happened to them. There’s lots of speculation throughout history. The other definition of the Lost Tribes are really what I call the scattered remnant of Israel. You need to understand, Sid, that through history the Jewish people were scattered numerous times.
SID: Of course.
JONATHAN: The ten tribes. Then the tribe of Judah was taken captive into Babylon. Only a remnant returned. What happened to the rest? 70 A.D. Jerusalem was destroyed by the Romans. After the Bar Kokhba revolt in 132 B.C. or A.D. rather, 132 to 136, they forbid Jews to live in Jerusalem and Israel and this is known as the Diaspora, the great dispersion. And then throughout the Middle Ages you have Jewish communities being banished from different countries and wandering through Italy, through England, through Spain. The Spanish Inquisition of 1492. Later Portugal, a few years later. Where did the Jewish people go? They were scattered throughout the nations of the world. And so now God is in process of fulfilling I believe fulfilling Isaiah chapter 11 and other prophecies where He says “I will regather the outcasts of Israel.” So the Lost Tribes, the scattered remnant of Israel are the Jewish communities that were scattered throughout the world, wandering throughout the world and are now being restored to the nation of Israel, to the State of Israel.
SID: Some Rabbis actually believe essential for End Times is to restore the Lost Tribes from the four corners.
JONATHAN: Well I absolutely believe that. The promise to regather His people back to the Land, see He said if you disobey My commandments you will be scattered but then I will draw you back. Deuteronomy and almost every prophet talks about the regathering at a set time in history and I believe it’s the time known as the End of Days or The Last Days.
SID: Okay. Well you are really specializing in this. How did it start?
JONATHAN: Well for me personally I, as with many other things like Russia, I wandered into it. It was really God’s divine leading without me even knowing about it. I was…
SID: I thought that was just me!
JONATHAN: No, no, no.
SID: I call God the great pusher. I’d like to say I’m the great follower but in my life He’s pushed me into everything.
JONATHAN: No, both of us have been pushed into things. We had no idea.
SID: Right.
JONATHAN: And He prepared this for us before the foundation of the world. That’s what is so exciting! Well I was invited to Ethiopia after the Russian revival of the 90’s which you were a part of. We saw amazing things, Sid. We saw so many salvations, healings, miracles in Russia. I could ride in a taxi and almost every taxi driver that I met I led to the Lord in a short taxi ride. It was that powerful. It was a revival. So after that began to wane I was asking God what’s next? Show me! I had no idea and I just wandered to Ethiopia. Somebody invited me to Ethiopia and that was the next assignment for me. I met a group called the Beth Israel.
SID: The House of Israel.
JONATHAN: The House of Israel. Ethiopian Jews that had retained their identity and been persecuted for hundreds of years. Many had been taken back to Israel but tens of thousands remained in Ethiopia in poverty. And suddenly the light came on and I saw here’s Jewish people that are in need. You know in America we don’t think of Jewish people in financial need and poverty. In Ethiopia there’s Jews in absolute poverty and another idea, another strategy to reach Jewish people this time not with cultural festivals, with music and dance, but with medical care, with dental care, with eye care and so we began to organize, our ministry began to organize clinics.
SID: What other areas besides Ethiopia?
JONATHAN: Right.
SID: …have you been working in?
JONATHAN: That’s where it began to answer your question. So it began in Ethiopia and then I began to read about various Lost Tribes. Different books were sent to me. Articles. And I learned about a group called the Lemba. This is…
SID: It’s in Africa.
JONATHAN: In Africa in the remote bush of Zimbabwe. And I sent someone to try to find the Lemba. And they found the Lemba. I get this phone call from an Ethiopian member of our team, and he calls me from Ethiopia and introduces me on the phone to a member of the Zimbabwean parliament that’s a member of the Lemba tribe. And he tells me come. We’ve been praying for you. I’ve written to you, you’ve never written back. Long story short, I flew to Zimbabwe and it was so complex just getting there, Sid. I had to fly to Johannesburg which is a huge commitment in time. And then when I got to Johannesburg had to take another flight to Harare then we had to rent a small plane. Oh, and it’s even more interesting. We had to clear a field to take this small plane.
SID: I can match that description when I went to the lost tribe of the Kaifeng China Jews…
JONATHAN: Right, right. I went with you. You remember?
SID: That’s right!
JONATHAN: The Lord spoke to me in Russia said go with Sid and help.
SID: And then as a little aside, he never got as sick in his life (laughing)…
JONATHAN: You remember.
SID: …as he got on that time.
JONATHAN: One of the sickest I’ve ever been. It took me a month to recover but anyway that’s another story.
SID: But now let, I wanna go into another area because this is so fascinating. When he does these clinics all of the doctors and nurses and dentists and people that come along they’re strong believers and they not only help the people physically but they pray for them to be physically healed. Your last event. Tell me about it.
JONATHAN: Well I just came back from Zimbabwe two weeks ago, and incidentally it was in Zimbabwe that travail began to just come out of me again so there’s something in connection with these lost tribes, with the Lemba and other scattered Jewish communities that I believe is directly connected to me going back into travail. It’s a new season, Sid. We are in a new time in history.
SID: It’s not just on the lost tribes.
JONATHAN: No.
SID: You see Jonathan moved, he’s like a fisherman. He goes where the fish are biting. Fish were biting in the former Soviet Union? He went. God directed him there. Fish are biting in these lost tribes? God directed him there. But I’ve got some good news. This is America’s time. France’s time. Italy’s time. This is Israel’s time. The Jewish people are going to be on fire for the Lord! And once again they’re going to be the catalyst for the greatest Gentile revival in history!
JONATHAN: Sid, I wannaà I justà I wanna accent that. I believe that we’re entering into the greatest revival the world has ever seen. Look back at the first century. I used to read the New Testament and think oh, if I only lived in that time when my shadow healed someone. But the more I understand the times we live in the more I’m thankful that I live in this time. I don’t wanna live in any other time than now, Sid. It’s the time to favor Zion is here!
SID: Well I had a dream and in the dream God came to me and He said “I’m coming back soon” three times! I’m coming back soon! I’m coming back soon! I’m coming back soon! Tell me some of those miracles that happened in Zimbabwe.
JONATHAN: We’re seeing all kinds of miracles…
SID: Tell me some specific things you saw with your eyes.
JONATHAN: So two weeks ago we had, we set up this prayer tent, and by the way the first Lemba outreach we did over 5000, now you heard this correctly, over 5000 Lemba, Jews, came to faith in Jesus as Messiah in one week. 5000!
SID: Praise God!
JONATHAN: So some of the miracles. A woman came in with a goiter on her neck, a huge goiter, and as we began to pray for her, as our prayer team began to pray the goiter literally began to shrink, shrink, shrink and by the time we were done praying, our team was done praying, the goiter was completely gone.
SID: By the way there’s power in the testimony and there’s someone with a goiter right now on your neck…
JONATHAN: Yes!
SID: ….as a matter of fact and it is going down in Yeshua’s name. In Jesus’ name. Go ahead, tell me something else you saw.
JONATHAN: We’ve had other people that were carried in. They didn’t come in wheelchairs cause they don’t have wheelchairs. They were carried in just completely lame and walked out of the tent. Able to walk out. Let me tell you another one that I was part of that was absolutely amazing. This was in Ethiopia, in Gondar Ethiopia. A young man came in probably 18, 19 years of age, deaf and dumb. Now what’s fascinating is that he had grown up in the same community so it’s like a Bible experience where they all know him from childhood. And the Lord opened up his hearing and I was standing behind him whispering, kind of like an old Ernest Angley thing. Yeshua. And he was Ye-shu-a. And he was standing behind him and all of the elders of the community, and this is what made the miracle so amazing, all witnessed this and knew this young man was born this way and they had no explanation. They were absolutely stunned. And I was just kind of taunting them, getting him to talk because I could see they were, they didn’t know what to do with this. They were absolutely stunned because they knew this man his whole life.
SID: And this young woman was sharing that God is telling me there’s someone with problems in your hands. And you have problems bending your fingers. If you do that right now you will walk right into your miracle. Now Jonathan, I am…
JONATHAN: Carpal tunnel’s is being healed right now as we speak.
SID: I see it.
JONATHAN: Carpal tunnel.
SID: Anything to do with the hands.
JONATHAN: Yeah!
SID: Tell me about this. Tell me about this, this amazing brand new book.
JONATHAN: Okay, Sid. This is a workbook. This is the third in a series. I’m going through the scriptures and I’m looking at the names of God, the revealed compound names of God. This one Adonai Yireh. We sing Jehovah Jireh. The correct Hebrew is Yireh. And it means The Lord Will Provide.ö It comes from Genesis 22 where God commanded Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac. So the first provision is Jesus. Okay? And everything that He provides for us. There’s two points to this. One: confessing the word of God. When we confess the word of God we’re releasing life. We’re releasing power. We’re also hearing the word and its getting into our spirit and building faith. So I’m a big believer in confession simply because it works. It’s Biblical and it works! And then I’ve connected it to the Hebrew language which is a modern revival of an ancient language. It’s a pure language. It’s a heavenly language. And I like to call it a super language. Just as there’s super foods that have nutrients and vitamins that are abnormally rich. The Hebrew language is a normallyà abnormally rich. The word Shalom for example. Peace. We have the English peace. So I say peace to you it means rest. It means to experience God’s peace. But the word Shalom has like 20 words that it’s connected to. It also means well-being. It also means wholeness. It also means completion, welfare. All of these English words that we have to confess.
SID: So what you’re saying if I understand this right Jonathan takes the promises of God which are supernatural and puts ‘em in a super-food package called Hebrew. That’s the way God originally did it!
JONATHAN: And faith, and right. And when you confess the word. So we confess shalom we’re confessing 20, more than 20 English words and it comes to pass. Why, Sid? Because confession has creative force. What separates man from all of God’s creation is articulate speech and there’s life in the power of the tongue. So I’m a big believer in confession. I’m a big believer in Hebrew and when you put them together (clapping sound) you have a supernatural (clapping sound) emergence (clapping sound), emergence.
SID: What feedback on your first two books, The Lord Your Healer, the one The Lord Your Peace. These have been out for a while. What type of feedback is your office telling is coming on that?
JONATHAN: Well I got a letter from a pastor who had taken this, I believe it was an Indian woman that was dying of cancer in the hospital. I think it was leukemia. And he began to play the tape for her. I don’t think she was able to confess it but the CD that is attached to it has me confessing the scriptures in English and then a Hebrew, a native Israeli speaking them in Hebrew and he just played it in her hospital room day after day and she was completely healed of leukemia. And he was writing to thank me for her healing. I didn’t do it. The Word (tap sound on desk) of God (tap sound on desk) healed (tap sound on desk) this woman!
SID: You really have a passion for not just confessing God’s word but being able, and on the transliteration are you finding people that have never studied Hebrew can in minutes can speak it?
JONATHAN: Five minutes and you’re speaking Hebrew fluently when you follow along with the Hebrew speaker. I went to Hebrew School for years, Sid, and struggled for my Bar Mitzvah. I hated Hebrew School!
SID: Me too! (laughing)
JONATHAN: And guess what? You don’t have to be a Hebrew scholar. You can actually put the Hebrew language to work in five minutes with these workbooks. And that’s what they are. They’re workbooks! You said something about investing before.
SID: Yes.
JONATHAN: When you get this you’re investing in the ministry. Well you’re not just investing in the ministry, you’re investing in yourself! You’re investing in building into your spirit life. Investing into yourself peace and rest and provision and healing. All of these revelations that come out when you speak forth the Hebrew language, confess the Hebrew language it gets into your hearing, gets into your spirit and comes out being spoken with and releases life!