It's Supernatural

Sid: My guest by way of telephone is Mary Jo Clouse I’m speaking to her at her home in Lake Mary, Florida about her new book called “Getting Free.” Mary Jo was a Christian and yet sickness kept just plaguing her and plaguing her and through a series of being taught by the Holy Spirit she found out from life experience and the word of God about generational curses and she’s been able to teach others about this and their lives have been transformed about this and their lives have been transformed.  And the thing that I like about her book is that it’s done in such a simplistic fashion. And you don’t need someone to help you with it you just read the book and you break the curses. In fact on yesterday’s broadcast Mary Jo we were talking about the sources of curses and perhaps we’ll continue on that.

Mary Jo: Okay there’s a scripture in Proverbs 26:2 that says “Like a flitting sparrow and like a flying swallow is a curse without a cause will not light.”  In other words a curse without a cause cannot come into my life.  So the number l thing I would say would begin to recognize that there is a curse. Like we talked about the money situation if there’s enough money coming into meet the needs and yet you still are not making headway in your life then there’s a curse on your finances. And that curse can even been put on your finances through word curses. You might have left a job a good job and got a better job and that boss that you were working for didn’t really want you to leave said “Well you will never prosper if you leave this company.”  Now if that’s happen to you it’s very simple you just say “Lord I forgive that person for speaking that word curse over me and I break that word curse the poverty over my family and I lose the blessings of the Lord Jesus Christ.”  Some things that are very simple that we don’t do because we’ve never been taught or we don’t even think about it. But some of you maybe have left a church or left and that pastor said to you “If you leave this church you’ll never prosper you’ll never amount to anything” and you’re out there struggling and God says “Forgive that pastor because bitterness and unforgiveness will bind you up and keep you from all of the blessings that God would have in your life.

Sid: You have to do something more than forgive though you forgive and then you break that curse?

Mary Jo: I forgive and then I just very simply say “I break that curse that authority curse that was put over my life” and realize that Jesus Christ is the ultimate authority in your life and once you’ve forgiven that person and realized and you break that curse you’re released from it, it’s not that hard.

Sid: That’s what I love about your teaching its very simplistic but I mean it makes all of the difference in being able to receive the blessings or not. Whether its blessings of physical healings or blessings in marriage or with children or with relationships.  Let’s talk about some more reasons for curses.

Mary Jo: Let me tell you it’s just like when my husband and I first got saved we used to laugh and say “We were both the negative if you put us out in the sunlight we would develop.  And so we started just saturating our self in the word and we had struggles financially when we first got married and yet we made plenty of money.  And we realized that he had come from a part of the country that said “We are proud but we’re poor.”  You know “We may be poor but we have our pride.”  So if there’s pride in your life repent of being proud of who you are and repent and ask God to forgive you of pride in your family and ancestral back that you have all been poor but you had your pride.  And when we did that the blessings of God just seemed to come and overtake us. And I just love it. Another thing that will bring one indication of a curse would be a mental or emotional breakdown and repeated or chronic sicknesses is what I’m talking about.  I’m not talking about we all get headaches or something like that but if it’s a repeated or a chronic sickness and there’s no cure that medical diagnosis then you will know from that that will indicate to you that there is a curse in your life and you go back and say “Well what caused the curse?” Have I been involved in the occult, do I have bitterness and unforgiveness toward someone?

Sid: Is it possible to have a curse say someone curses you that’s perhaps in witchcraft or even someone that’s supposedly a Christian curses you and you don’t know that this is going on?

Mary Jo: I think so I know I that it can happen because that’s what we talk a lot about the controlling spirits the manipulating spirits. And a lot of people that are Christians have that they are control and manipulating spirits those are not God. We’re only supposed to be controlled by the Holy Spirit and yet you can have an occult spirit come against you like a witchdoctor or something like that. A lot of people that goes overseas and minister and have come back home and found out that there was something wrong and did you not know where this came from and later realized that a curse had been put on them because they had walked into a territory that did not want them there.  Did not want the blood of Jesus Christ applied in their life.

Sid: So if that was you you went to another country and you came back you see that there’s a problem that you think that there’s some sort of curses result of it what would you do?

Mary Jo: First of I’d ask myself did I bring any object from that country did I bring back a souvenir.  And what did that souvenir and did it have a curse on it and even if I didn’t know I would probably get rid of it because I had it when I had gone overseas and picked up a little bird that I thought was a such a cute little carved bird and every time I’d go by that bird I would think you know I don’t feel comfortable about this there is something in here that makes me feel uncomfortable and the Lord would say “Get rid of it.” But I would say but that is the only souvenir that I have for that country you know.  And what had happened this young girl had come up and said “Come pretty lady come down and by some stuff from me.”  So I went and I  bought the bird and one day as I was dusting I walked past that bird and I went and I started having pains in my chest and I thought “Oh my goodness Lord Jesus what’s wrong with me.”  And I thought “I’ve been telling you to get rid of that it has a curse on it you know you bought it from a country to where they practice all sorts of witchcraft. You bought it from somebody who practices witchcraft,” and so I got rid of it and the pain went away.

Sid:  And I know of another girl that I was ministering to that was having problems with her prosperity and she had been to Greece and she had brought back what they call a good luck rock and she had that in her home and we went to visit her house. And we went for the express purpose of praying through the home cleansing the home. And when I saw this I had a real funny feeling about it but you know if you don’t want to go on a witch hunt every time you go into somebody’s home that’s where discerning of spirits a little wisdom and a little knowledge from God helps a whole lot so that you’re not always offending people. So I didn’t say anything about it I just prayed and I said “God if there is anything wrong with that rock you reveal it to her and when you reveal it to her she’ll accept it.  I asked her several questions I tried to lead her into it and that didn’t make any…she didn’t realize that was what I was talking about.  So about 3 weeks later we was teaching and she held up her hand and she “You know I realized that I probably have an object in my home that is keeping me from prospering.”  And she had a job as an accountant earlier in earlier years and yet she could not get a good job. So she brought the object in we demolished it threw it away and about 2 weeks later she went to work making 3 times as much money as she was making before she had that cursed object in her house.

Sid:  Now okay lets supposed it’s a cursed object let suppose it’s a verbal curse by a witch or someone like that. How do you break it?

Mary Jo: Okay you go through the house…I’ll tell you an incidence where a person recently that happened to them that had an encounter with this person and they were having a disturbance in the service and we had asked them to leave and they would not leave.  And so the lady that had encountered her had started having a lot of pains in her back and she realized that it was probably a curse that this person was putting on her. So we went through the house and we anointed the house with oil and we pled the blood of Jesus Christ.  We prayed over the lady and we broke every witchcraft curse that had been put on her and pled the blood of Jesus and commanded the curse to be removed through the name and the blood of Christ. And she was set free and the nightmares and the funny feeling she had when she went into her house and the pain in her back left.

Sid: You read a scripture at the beginning of the broadcast. A curse there is a cause for every curse.

Mary Jo: Right.

Sid: Let’s go back to examples of things that can open doors for curses some other areas.

Mary Jo: I think I already covered worshipping false Gods, dishonoring your parents, illicit and unnatural sex. And I talked about abortion and injustice for the weak and the helpless.  One of the indications of a curse of course I talked about the breakdown of finances the breakdown of your marriage. Being accident prone sometimes we have accidents and we just think we’re clumsy and klutzy.  If that person is clumsy and klutzy I can grant you that back when they were just learning to just walk and stand on their feet someone in their family just said “Well look at them they’re such a klutz they’re always falling. They got two left feet they can’t…” in other words that is a word curse put on somebody by an authority figure. My daughter for instance she used to every time before we would go on vacation she’d go out in the yard strap bare footed and we had clover in our yard and she’d get a bee sting.  Well of course we had reinforced that with our words because we’d say Karen be real careful when you go out in the yard to play because we’re getting ready to go to grandma’s house and we want you to be able to wear your shoes and to look pretty. And she’d go out and get stung by a bee (laughing) and then we’d have to carry her around when we went on vacation because she couldn’t wear her shoes or she’d be limping around.  And I one day read the scripture where it says that He gives ministering angels charge over us to watch us in all of our way.  So I’d been putting more curses on her but last year she went out to play and I said “You know Lord I just disburse ministering angels around my daughter to watch her in all of her ways and to guard over her and to keep her. Because she had like at that time she had 3 broken bones and when I started stationing ministering angels around her and cleaned up the way I talked about her she’s going to fall be careful you’re going to fall and break your arm when I quit doing that she never had another broken arm…

Sid: Woop we’re out of time…