It's Supernatural

Sid:Do you have sort of a sense that something so wonderful is about ready to happen in the Spirit of God?I believe prophetically speaking three giants went home to be with the Lordthis year and there’s a real message prophetically speaking in this.

1. Bill Bright and he was the founder of Campus Crusade a ministry to college students and young people.
2. Ken Hagen now what was he known for? A ministry of faith and walking in the Spirit.
3. Derek Prince, well Derek Prince was known for a lot of things but in recent years what he was known for was his position on Israel.

If you recall I was at his funeral and just before he died we were told he gave a prophetic word as to what God is up to at this moment in history. And it was so simple and yet it was so profound he said “God is restoring Israel and judging the nations.” Now when you look at these 3 great giants of God that went home this is what I see. I see the ingredients of the next move of God’s Spirit it will involve young people that’s what Bill Bright brought to the table. It will evolve faith and walking in the Spirit that’s what Ken Hagen taught. And it will involve the Jew and Israel, that’s what Derek Prince emphasized. And if we put those 3 ingredients together I believe that these are 3 of the greatest ingredients of the next move of God’s Spirit. And if you turn to Ephesians the 2^nd chapter the 14^th verse I’ve called it the One New Manbut let me explain to you why I call it the One New Man. “For He Himself is our peace who has made both one (He’s talking about Jews and Gentiles) and has broken down the middle wall of separation.” So why did Yeshua come? To break down the middle wall of separations between Jews and non-Jews having abolished in His flesh the enmity that is the law of commandments contained in ordinances so as to create in himself One New Man. That’s where that phrase comes from. So to create in Him One New Man from the two thus making peace. And the Hebrew name for peace is Shalom, completeness.As if to say “Until the Jew is added to the body of Messiah there is an incompleteness.” In other words a Jewish person needs a Christian and a Gentile Christian needs a Jew. And the 16^th verse that he might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross thereby putting to death the enmity.” And then jump down to the 22^nd verse because this is what he’s doing “In whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.” In other words, the One New Man is the new temple of God your body is the temple of God but the corporate temple of God is the Jew and Gentile. Again why did Jesus come? To break down that middle wall of separation and you know when I see this verse 22 it says “Whom you are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.” I’m reminded again of a teaching of a teaching of Kenneth Hagen and he used to say “You are a spirit, you live in a body and you have a soul.” You see psychology doesn’t even understand the spirit. Psychology says you’re really a soul. No, you are a spirit and our problem is that we’re so carnally minded that we lose track of the fact that we a spirit. Yes we have a soul, yes we have a body, but the eternal you is your spirit. The part of you that communicates with God is your spirit. In fact, one of the things that I’ve been trying to do is rely more on my spirit than on my brain. Now why would I want to do that? Because God’s Holy Spirit is mingled with my spirit and God’s Holy Spirit knows everything. My mind only has limited information, it’s like a computer it only knows what’s going in it doesn’t know anything else. But God knows everything, that’s why even praying in tongues is so important. But most believers are so caught up in the things of this earth that they don’t recognize that this earth is not there heaven is your home. I think it would do you a lot of good, it would do me a lot of good to say over and over again until I get it in my thick skull or in my spirit really “I am a spirit, I happen to live in a physical body, and I happen to have a soul. But I’m much more interested in being the one new man a dwelling placeof God in the Spirit.”

One of the most important things about the one new man is what the Christian brings. You know it’s like cooking a cake if you have the wrong ingredients in the recipe the cake won’t be as good. But if you have the right ingredients you’re going to bake a wonderful cake. Now I do not cook a whole lot you can ask my wife Joyce that’s not one of my pastimes. I like to eat, I don’t like to cook but I know enough about cooking to know you need the right ingredients. So what does the Gentile Christian bring to the table? The Gentile Christian brings 2000 years of walking with Jesus. The Gentile Christian brings the fruit of the Spirit. The Gentile Christian brings the knowledge of the New Covenant. So what does the Jewish person bring in this cake that we’re baking right now. It’s found in Romans the 9^th chapter. Paul says “I tell the truth in Messiah, I am not lying my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Spirit that I have great sorrow and continual grief in my heart for I could wish that I myself were a curse from Messiah for my breather, my countrymen according to the flesh.”

You imagine this I mean this has got to be short of Jesus dying for us the next most amazing statement in the Bible Paul would give up his very relationship with Jesus eternity forever for his brethren after the flesh the Jewish people. And then he begins to say “Well, let me tell you why this is so important. Because the Jewish people their Israelites to whom pertain first the adoption. God says of the Jewish people you are my first born, and then the glory.” Can you imagine what will happen when the Old Covenant glory comingles with the New Covenant Glory? It’ll be like the ladder reign and the former reign Joel talks about coming down at once. That’s what’s about ready to happen. Of the Jewish people we owe a debt of gratitude because there’s other covenants the giving of the law the service of God. And in Greek that word service could just as easily be translated the worship of God. In fact some translations say “The worship of God.”

I believe that there’s music from heaven ready to come to earth. And you know what this music, we read about this music in heaven. In Revelations let me turn to that right now the 15^th chapter it talks about the music in heaven. And it says in Revelation 15:3 “They sang (and this is what they’re singing in heaven and it’s about ready to be passed on to earth) they sang the song of Moses, the servant of God (That represents the worship from the Jewish people) and the song of the lamb” (That represents the Gentile Christians), but I believe that when the two worships come together the song of the Lamb and the song of Moses when they’re intermingled it’s going to be the forerunner of the greatest move of God’s Spirit. Because it says also of the Jewish people the promises, what are the promises? Well I’ll tell you the promises God, and this is a tough statement and I’ll pick up here on tomorrows broadcast. But I’m going to by God’s grace and by the Spirit of God I’m going to give you revelation knowledge of the next move of God’s Spirit on planet earth the promises involving the land. Do you know who the first Zionist was? The Zionist believe that the Jewish people are entitled to the physical land of Israel forever. Do you know who the first Zionist were? You know a lot of people say “Well, I’m not against Jewish people I’m just against Zionism, I’m against Israel.” You can’t separate the two because do you know who the first Zionist was? God, if you are against Jewish people having the physical land of Israel unconditionally forever I tell you you are against God. And in the Living Bible and in Zachariah it says “He that touches Israel is the same as someone that pokes their finger in God’s eye.” Well, you have to be a pretty stupid person to want to do that. Were out of time…

Sid: Well Mishpochah I just had to come on myself without a guest for this week because you know since 1977 we’ve had Messianic Vision Radio Broadcast and this is the last broadcast on a Monday through Friday basis we’re going to have. Now there’s a reason for it and since you’re Mishpochah, that’s a Hebrew word which means family, I wanted to talk to you about it. I’ve got my Mishpochah Mug, I hope some of you have your Mishpochah Mug and I wanted to kind of rehearse what God’s doing with us and why we’re making the changes. I believe this is a God decision.

Many of you know that I was raised in a traditional Jewish family and when I was 30 years of age I had a major crisis in my life. I’d opened up a door that no one should open, but frankly you can’t watch secular TV today without seeing reference to it, it’s called the New Age today. It was called the occult when I was involved and I went into t mind control course that taught me how to meditate and when I would meditate I would actually go into a hypnotic state and invite a friend… at least that’s what they called it inside of me. The Bible calls it a familiar spirit and I got myself demonized. If you’ve ever seen the movie “The Exorcist” or read the book that’s what happened to me. So what does a traditional Jewish man that doesn’t know his left hand from his right hand; doesn’t know anything about the New Testament; doesn’t know anything about Jesus, was raised in Christian America, educated at the finest, or at one of the finest universities in America. Working for one of the finest firms in America, Merrill Lynch as an Account Executive. Not one person cared enough about me to tell me about Jesus. So what am I going to do? Well fortunately there was a Christian that was bold enough to share his faith with me.

So I remember the worst day of my life, I was separated from my wife and my daughter. Life was just too hard. I have to tell you I was a positive thinker, I read all of the positive thinking books. The positive thinking works until your first crisis (Laughing). And I had my crisis, so I didn’t know where to go. If I went to my parents they’d give their life for me but mom, dad I’ve got this evil thing inside of me what should I do about it? They shipped me off to the physiatrist. Now do you know the number one profession for suicides for America? You got it it’s Jesus, put it this way “If a blind man leads a blind man” they’re not going to know anything about demons and exorcism. Well maybe I should have gone to the Catholic Church because somehow I had seen some movies you know the Exorcist Catholic Priest holds a cross up, but no I can’t do that I’m Jewish. So I did the next best thing to having a cross at least in my mind I went to a Jewish bookstore and I got a silver Mezuzah. You see them on doorposts of Jewish homes. It has scripture in it and we Jewish people believe that it kind of protects us. So I got this Jewish Mezuzah on a silver chord and I put it around my neck. By this point these Christian friends had told me about who Jesus was and the Bible. Tell you the truth I was in such a fog I didn’t know anything. I didn’t know what they were saying to me, I just knew that life was too hard, I don’t know if you’ve ever been at that point. I don’t know if you can relate to me but life was too hard I didn’t want to live anymore. I remember as a young boy I had this thought I was alone at night my parents were out and I had this thought “What happens when you die?”

My goodness you know as I’m sharing this I have to be obedient God is telling me He wants to bless you He wants you to be healed right now. There are people with pains in their neck and if you would just move your head you’ll see that the pain even though it’s been a long chronic pain it’s gone in Jesus Name. And those of you with back problems if you will bend over you’ll see that pain is definitely gone and arthritis or pain in your fingers of any kind if you’ll move your fingers and your wrists and knees and any area of your body if you’ll test it you’ll see that you’ve just been healed.

So I had this thought when I was a young boy “What happens if you die?” And so you know Judaism is “l’chaim” to life. So we don’t talk about death in Judaism but I had this thought. So I took my childlike imagination and I tried to imagine what the world would be like if I no longer existed. It was so objectionable I blocked it from my mind. Because whatever was me I didn’t want it to die, but here I’m 30 years old and I don’t want to live; life is too difficult.

So I said a simple prayer, I didn’t even know… you know when someone is sinking and dying they’ll try anything and I tried this Jesus my Christian friends told me about. And very soon the world is going to be darker and darker and there will be Jewish people reaching out and when you share Jesus with these Jesus with these Jewish people they’ll look like they’re not interested but at least someone was bold enough with me so I knew the name of Jesus, and I cried out “Jesus help.” (Crashing noise in background) My iPad just fell no problem. I cried out “Jesus help” and I went to bed not caring whether I lived or died. When I woke up a great miracle happened, I experienced peace beyond anything I had ever felt or thought before possible. I’d never been on drugs, I’d never been an alcoholic, I didn’t know what that’s like frankly but I can tell you this the peace I had is what the whole world wants. It was the love of God flooded my room.

If you said Sid “I’ll give you a million dollars if you’ll get into fear.” I would say I’m sorry I’d like the million but I cannot get into fear,” this love that’s saturating the whole room and then I heard the voice of God. God’s said “Return to your wife and daughter.” And I have to tell you I said “Yes Sir.” And I had a revelation that Jesus is my Messiah and I said “Yes Sir.” And I started reading the Bible, I returned to my family.

Do you know that Joyce and I just celebrated our 50^th Wedding Anniversary? Do you know that every member of my immediate family has become believers in Jesus?

Then God put me in the oil business of all things and he so blessed me. In fact I was speaking at a Full Gospel Businessman’s organization once and there was a prophecy and the prophecy was “Sid you are going into a new oil business it’s the oil of the Holy Spirit.” I didn’t understand it but I sure understand it today.

So we started one of the first Messianic Jewish Synagogues in this part of the world. There was a group of people we called… it was an organization we called “The Hebrew Christian Alliance” and I was the President of it. I was like a year or two old in the Lord and we had a vote because that’s what we do in Jewish Synagogues we vote if we’re going to do something. And so we voted let’s have a service and we had one service and it evolved into one of the best Messianic Congregations in the world.

I’m going to pick up right here because that’s how I got into doing a radio broadcast. But I wanted to tell you that I’m going to continue radio and there are going to be many ways that you can get the radio broadcast. The easiest way is to go to our web page Sidroth.org, S-i-d-r-o-t-h.o-r-g. Or you can go to iTunes and just search my name Sid Roth. Or you can get an App, go to the App store for your iPhone or your Android and it’s free and just go to Sid Roth and get the ISN, that stands for “It’s Supernatural Network.”

We’re going to have a 1 hour show and it’s going to be different than what I’m doing right now; it’s going to be so free and it’s going to so timely because we won’t have to do it months in advance. In fact, I have a vision for the future, don’t look for it right now but it’ll be in the near future I promise we’re going to put a few cameras in there, and a lot of you know about, it we have a television network. It’s called “It’s Supernatural Television Network.” And you can get that network which will have the radio show but you can get all of our archives 700 of our archives and it’s in high definition. Imagine you could get…

In fact let me read you an interesting testimony about our network. I do leave the new ISN playing even if we aren’t home because of among the many anointed CD’s and DVD’s I’ve received through this ministry there just isn’t just the same atmosphere as the interviews have. And I’m finding that people that have our TV network on… can you just imagine at lunch you just press the app and you can see in high definition 700 shows. And then we have brand new shows coming on the air. Well we’re going to have a prophetic cooking show, we’re going to have direct reports from Israel. I’ll be able to be live on this network. I’m asking you to stay with us. I mean family should stay together and I consider you Mishpochah, I consider you family. And I want you to join us for our 1 hour special show on the network; remember you can go to Sidroth.org, get us on the web, or iTunes search Sid Roth or the ISN App where you can get both the TV or the radio. Just go to the App Store and put in Sid Roth and I’ll pick up right here on tomorrows broadcast.

Sid: Guess what? Just as I am saying that God is speaking to me that people are being healed. There are people that have back and neck problems that if you bend over and if you’ll move your head you’ll see that you have been totally healed. And it’s no wonder my guest moves in some extraordinary signs and wonders that candidly I have never heard of anyone in my life time that walked in these particular gifts. His name is Dr. James Maloney. And I’ve wanted to interview him for a long time and this is the moment. James I was talking to you the other day and you told me about to me what was so amazing a tattoo supernaturally came off of someone, tell me about that.

James: Well, Sid can I just interject something, while you were getting those words of knowledge I felt that there was several individuals that were getting healed in the thyroid area. In fact tumors areas in the thyroid and one particular lady doesn’t even have a thyroid and if she would stick her finger in that vacant hole there she will find that it’s growing and thickening; we’ve seen 100s of people get healed of this and I just felt that when you were moving so powerful in the word of knowledge that people are getting healed and tumors are dissolving. So I’m sure you’ll get a report praise God (Laughing.) Well this particular young man he was a part of the gang of our day and his tattoos on his body was about the worst that I’ve ever seen Sid in my life. He was up in the prayer line a precious precious young gentleman been saved just a couple of weeks and he was so embarrassed because he had needle marks in his arms just hundreds of them black and blue on both arms and yet also to all of the tattoos they were so demonic, he said you know and tears welled up in his eyes and he said “I just want to serve God and yet I’m so embarrassed by these tattoos.” And I felt the Holy Spirit just rise up within me and I had an impression of God’s hands was kind of above him above his head in a visionary form. God placed in his hands on those needle marks and so I just did that, I just spontaneously and when I removed my hand about 15 seconds later all of the needle marks disappeared. And I said “Now watch what God will do for your tattoos, that’s all I said I mean nothing changed at that time so the next morning he woke up and he was washing his face and brushing his teeth in the mirror and here’s all of these tattoos all over his body. I don’t think that there was an area of his body that he didn’t have a tattoo and they were all demonic. And he said “Oh Jesus.” And when he said that all of a sudden he felt this surge like a tingling and poof like dust all of these tattoos just poofed in the air and flaked on in the air and God removed ever tattoo on his body.

Sid: James you have been in ministry 40+ years.

James:   A hah.

Sid: Does it ever get old to you seeing something like that?

James: No, I mean it just oh Sid to God’s glory, every time I see something like that it’s a fresh and a new and God’s so good.

Sid: You know that’s how I feel too, I mean to see the Living God show up at a meeting, I mean it blows me out of the water.

James: Well, it is, it’s exciting and it’s been that way for 40 some years ever since I remember when I was setting under a ministry of the late Kathryn Kuhlman, Lonnie Frisbee, all of the Jesus people.

Sid: Oh, I heard about Lonnie Frisbees miraculous anointing, I mean it was unreal. But one of the things that you’re doing that is I’ve never heard of this actually ever before. You call it a panoramic vision, what exactly is a panoramic vision?

James: Well Sid, what it is it’s an operation of the discerning of spirits. I tell people in my meetings I really don’t have gifts of healing and workings of miracles. Now maybe some other minister does but I don’t I have discerning of spirits and gift of faith. So what happens is ever since I was 19 years of age I felt a real surge of anointing particularly in my right hand. And after all of these years of praying for countless people I have been able to learn to discern certain impressions in my hand that the Holy Spirit’s allowing me to sense that’s a directly from the Father going into the person’s body. And so that’s one aspect of discernment and they sense it as well, but also I have because of my own infirmity in the past few years the Holy Spirit has allowed a tremendous experience to some in my life. And it’s not something new it was something that mightily moved and operated in the late 1940’s and I’m sure others but practically the late William Braham and his early ministry. And I think I’m just a generation right now one of many I’m sure that God’s going to raise up that this panoramic operation.

Sid: But explain what you see, what exactly is a panoramic vision?

James: It’s Hosea 14:10 where it says Hosea states that “I will come to multiply visions. And if you look in the original Hebraic language it means “I come into panoramic or we get motions picture. So what happens is when I have a distinct presence of a specific angel to my right side if I get real quiet and listen discernment comes to me and up thrown the gentleman or lady I have snap shots of different events in their life.   It’s like my thought life, my thoughts are thrown up on the throne or the ceiling and they superimpose themselves and they’re even more down or more seen than even the wall or the ceiling and so they start moving. So what happens is it’s quite simple I just see it move “Three years ago you were in a car accident and you were driving a red Corolla, is that correct?” And they go “How’d you know?” I can quote 9 times out of 10 they say “How do you know?” And “What happens is your right hip was completely smashed, you had reconstructive surgery, you have a metal hip is that correct?” Ah, ha, how did you know?” And they start sensing a burning sometimes and God just quickens their body and dissolves like we’ve had this countless times the metal and God give them a brand new hip and they’ve gone back to the doctors and they can’t find the metal. And you know it creates faith, it creates faith not only in my life because there’s absolutely no way Sid that I would have the faith development as long as I walked over 47 years to have those kind of details. And so it’s a gift of faith that drops on me and I just know that I know that I know that what I’m seeing is of God, I’ve developed it that I just share it. And then what happens is the gift of faith goes out in the congregation.

Sid: What do you mean by that when the gift of faith goes out in the congregation what occurs?

James: Oh, all kinds of things. I mean their faith level goes from 2 or 3 to 15 you know and some people start getting healed in their seats, tumors dissolve, cancers, crippling conditions…  

Sid: James when I hear what you’re saying right now and I think back about your beginnings I mean you as a baby you were neglected, you were hungry, you were dirty, you were locked in a closet for hours, you went through brutal beatings, how did you even survive that I don’t see how anyone can survive that?

James: Well Sid I barely survived, I barely did survive this is not a bad reflection to my biological Mom she was just trying to protect me from her crazed husband who was an alcoholic. She’d had an affair and I was illegitimate, she had not told him because he was in penitentiary when he was parolled early he saw this 3 year old that was on his living room floor and he knew that I could not possibly be his because there was no visitation rights in that day and so the demon of anger rose up and so I for about a year I went through this type of physical abuse, I lived over 9 months in the closet. The only time I was taken out of the closet was to be beaten, then thrown back in their sometimes I go 2 or 3 days with just a bottle of water, maybe just a little bit of milk, half eaten hamburger. I don’t know Sid I really just God’s grace I mean you know just God’s grace…

Sid: You know James our time is slipping away but I wanted them to see you know I’ve gotten to know you a little bit you walk in humility but you will never forget you beginnings and its all God in your life. And that’s the way it is in everyone’s life they just don’t know it; you know it. Now James I am so excited to release the Forerunner Foundation Package” which consists of your brand new book “Overwhelmed By the Spirit” and 3 CD messages. I love the term you describe the Holy Spirit as “The Glorious Intruder.” And the Holy Spirit has sent to empower us to bring God’s plan to place in our life….

SID: Hello. Welcome. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. I had the high privilege of meeting a woman by the name of Kathryn Kuhlman, who is now in Heaven, the greatest miracle ministry I have ever witnessed with my eyes. And she said, “I can tell you the year, the month, the day and the hour that this miracle ministry came upon her.” And my guest can tell you the year, the month, the day and the hour that a great mantle for miracles came upon him, and he wants to teach you how you can walk in those same supernatural miracles. Are you interested? Guillermo Maldonado, and Guillermo, you have always had miracles. But something new is going on with you. But I want to whet your appetite. Tell me one recent creative miracle.

MALDONADO: One of the most powerful miracles I’ve seen was, this woman, I was ministering in the Netherlands. And as I ministered, the power of God fell. And this woman ran to the altar and she starts screaming. She said, “I am filled! I am filled!” I said, “What do you mean, I am filled?” She goes, “Twenty years ago, my womb had been removed because of cancer.” So she said, “I was empty and now the power of God fell on me and I feel that I’m full. So I went back to the doctor.” This is documented. “Went back to the doctor and the doctor said, ‘Well you got a brand new womb,'” a 20-year-old girl, a brand new womb.

SID: How does that doctor look at this and not go a little berserk?

MALDONADO: So he said, “This is God.” I mean, he had to recognize it was God. Because he said, “I removed the womb, so now you got a brand new womb.”

SID: Now I have to tell you. Although Guillermo has been walking in miracles probably almost as long as he’s been a believer, he’s at a different point now. And I told you when we were talking on the telephone that when I heard your message, I heard something different in your voice. There was a softness, a tenderness. Yes, you were soft before, yes you were tender before, but not, something’s happened to you. What’s happened?

MALDONADO: What happened, I received the baptism of love. Those that are watching are saying, what is that? I never heard about that. The Bible talks about different kinds of baptisms. And one time I was ministering and praying to the Lord and I get into the presence of God, and suddenly I felt like a liquid thing like water falling into my head and into my back. And I turned around and looked at the roof, and I didn’t see anything. And I said, what is this? I’m feeling something liquid. And the Lord said, “That is my liquid love.” That moment I fell on the floor. I started weeping and crying. And the question is what happened afterwards.

SID: I have to ask you a question. When this is going on, when this is going on, you call it liquid love. Did you feel like, for instance, I have felt this love myself, and when I felt it, it was almost like going from heat to air conditioning. It was tangible.

MALDONADO: Yes.

SID: What did you feel?

MALDONADO: That’s the same thing. I felt like water falling like oil coming into my head.

SID: Did you think there was a leak in the roof

MALDONADO: Yeah, that’s what I thought.

SID: Really?

MALDONADO: That’s what I thought. I turned around. I didn’t see anything. And I keep feeling that liquid love. And after this, it was suddenly I knew, Sid, I knew that I had God’s perspective toward people.

SID: So okay, now give me an example of this liquid love how you react to people now, maybe different than before.

MALDONADO: Okay. The moment, there’s so many things that happen after you receive the baptism of love. It’s a supernatural love, by the way. So the moment I received that liquid love, I start praying for certain people, and I saw that I didn’t pray like before. It was like such a compassion. I was moved to do something. When I saw somebody sick, when I saw somebody oppressed, I suddenly changed my perspective with people. And second, Sid, that moment when I received the liquid love, I received that I died to self. It was like selflessness, which is being empty of yourself happen in my heart. And God filled me completely with His love. So that was the moment when I said something happened to me.

SID: Tell me, well I could hear it. I heard it in your voice. I absolutely did.

MALDONADO: Yes.

SID: Without knowing anything that you’re telling me right now.

MALDONADO: Right.

SID: Give me one person that you were moved towards and explain.

MALDONADO: Okay. You know, there was a person that, one night, for example, there were so many people that the Lord said, “I will show you how the heart is connected, how the heart is connected to their state of their life.” And this person came to me, 40 years, 40 years being deaf, I’m sorry, deaf. And I just got close to the person. I didn’t even speak to the person. I just hugged, and that person completely got healed. And there’s another person. I mean, two weeks ago, this lady, 14 years deaf, completely deaf. And the Lord said, “Just hug her because my love is on you.” I got close to her, I mean, just love her, and that moment, God, boom, God opened her ears. So miracles like that.

SID: You know, there is a missing ingredient and that is a word called “transformation”.

MALDONADO: Yes, yes.

SID: And this missing ingredient…

MALDONADO: Yes.

SID: When we come back, we’re going to talk about it. But most true believers in the Messiah have some sort of an experience with God and that’s what catapults them into being a believer in the Messiah. But then they stagnate.

MALDONADO: Yes, yes.

SID: They’re sort of like my Jewish people walking in the desert for 40 years in a big circle, when they’re only one week away from the Promised Land. When we come back, I want you to understand transformation.