It's Supernatural

Sid:  We want everyone everywhere to draw on the healing power of the Messiah of Israel, who says, “All things are possible for those who believe,” my guest Pastor Billy Joe Daugherty, Senior Pastor of Victory Christian Center.  And Billy Joe, I’m looking at my notes here and if someone had gone back and say the early ‘70s and say, “Billy Joe one day you’re going to have 751 Bible Schools in ninety-one nations with 75,000 students, what would you have thought?”

Billy Joe:  It was not on my radar that’s for sure; never thought of that.

Sid:  But going back to in ’72 the presence of God literally knocked you back and you had quite an encounter, tell me about that.

Billy Joe:  I had an encounter, I grew up as a United Methodist boy, my wife, at the time my girlfriend father was our pastor and he began to talk about being born again.  And I had a born again experience in 1970, but it was a couple of years later that I begin to hear about the baptism of the Holy Spirit.  I was in a Sunday school class for three weeks where a lawyer taught on the Holy Spirit.  And after that three weeks I realized that I could receive that same power Jesus spoke of to His disciples in Acts 1:8 when he said, “You will receive power after the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be witnesses unto me in Jerusalem, Judea and Samaria and to the uttermost parts of the earth.  And on the day of Pentecost, Acts 2:4 I read, “They all were filled with the Holy Spirit and they began to speak with other tongues.”  That was the disciples, Mary the Mother of Jesus, others who had followed, they burst into the streets, they began to proclaim in other tongues the wonderful works of God.  There was the Jewish celebration taking place called Pentecost so Jews had come from around the world and they heard them speaking in the wonderful works of God.  Peter stood up and preached and said, “This is what the Prophet Joel prophesied, “In the last days I will pour My Spirit on all flesh.”  Well, I’d been hearing these scriptures and really for the first time in my life for whatever reason I didn’t get that growing up.  It may have been taught, I don’t remember it being taught or even discussed.  I wasn’t around people that spoke in tongues and the whole Pentecostal Charismatic experience was, it wasn’t even on my radar.  But I had had an experience a visitation from God where God dealt with me to leave the University I was in, transfer to Oral Roberts University.  And I had been at ORU three weeks and it was all new to me, and I was going to this little church and as that church began to worship God in a public school auditorium where they were meeting, I fell back in my seat; it was the power of the Holy Spirit.  Looking back I believe that it was the time when God baptized me in the Holy Spirit I just was overwhelmed with the presence of God.  The feeling that I got was beyond anything that I had ever experienced and difficult even to describe, just currents of God’s blessing and power flowing through my body.  At the end of this service the minister said, “Those of you who would like to be saved, come forward, we’ll pray with you; and those of you that would like to receive the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.”  And I went forward and the friend that had talked with me even a few weeks earlier about the Holy Spirit and about some of these things he went with me and we went into a classroom along with others.  And he said; “Now I’m going to lay hands on you for you to receive the Holy Spirit and you can begin to speak in tongues and he started to pray in the Spirit and get ready to lay hands on me and before he could lay hand on me, I just started speaking in tongues.  And out of my belly or spirit flowed what Jesus had spoken of, “Rivers of living water,” just a language I had never learned, prayer language.  And people would say, “Well what was the difference it made in your life?”  Well, the most significant difference for me was as I read the scriptures it was like reading it for the first time, understanding was there.

Sid:  Billy Joe, why is it that at when I became a believer in the Charismatic Movement was in full bloom so to speak, it was very common to talk about being filled with the Holy Spirit, speaking in unknown tongues.  Today it’s almost demoted to the backroom in Charismatic and Pentecostal churches; I don’t get it, how did that happen?

Billy Joe:  Well, it hasn’t happened here, we do it right in front of everybody; we don’t take them into a backroom.

Sid:  That’s the way it used to be, though.

Billy Joe:  And I think it’s just the awareness of people has diminished in that need.  For us we deal with so many situations and people that are in desperate need they’ve got to have the power of Holy Spirit.  And I think that’s the issue that people have forgotten the power is in the Spirit of the Living God, Sid we’ve got to bring that back and refocus folks.  It’s not in our intellect, it’s not in just knowledge and information; it’s not in just the fellowship that we’re around different people or the songs that we sing; it is in the power of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.

Sid:  You know Billy Joe; I believe that there are people listening to us that are saying to themselves, I wish I had that same experience that Billy Joe just described.  I believe that if you prayed for them right now that they’d have that experience.

Billy Joe:  Yes, I believe that too.  For those of you who have that desire, as I pray you open up your heart and then your mouth and then begin to speak and declare God’s glory and His blessings, His praise, and then the Spirit of God is going to come out of you in a band new language.  You see the Bible says, “Ask and you will receive, seek and you will find, knock and the door will be opened.”  Jesus has taught that specifically related to the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.  Right now I pray for you to be filled with the Holy Spirit according to the Bible pattern that as you’re filled you begin to speak with other tongues, a loud right where you are.  In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth be filled to over flowing and open your mouth and begin to declare a loud.  (Billy praying in his prayer language)  That’s it, you open your mouth, you just heard me praying in my prayer language, it’s a language that gives glory and honor and praise to God.

Sid:  And for the person that said, “I’d like to do that but I don’t know what to say.”  So far you’re 100% correct; it isn’t in your mind, so of course you don’t know what to say.  You’ll only hear it if you start speaking it by faith out loud and I like to tell people speak this language as quickly as you can so that you don’t get your mind in the way, it’s coming from your spirit.

Billy Joe:  Yes, it’s so important that we do like Peter when Jesus said, “Come.”  Peter said, “Lord if it’s you Lord, bid me come” as Jesus came walking on the water and Jesus said, what else could he answer it was Him, He just said, “Come.”  And Peter stepped out, what is he going to walk on, and you say, “What am I going to say?”  You just step out of the boat of your own mine and your own reasoning.  You say, “What am I going to step on?”  Stepped on the promise of God, what was Peter stepping on?  You know it was nothing but water out there; but he stepped on what Jesus said and as long as he held on to it he walked on the water.  And for you that are stepping out right now, out of your own intellect, your own language, you’re speaking in a new language which is very clear in scripture, they were speaking the wonderful works of God.  They were praying when we don’t know how to pray the Spirit makes intercession for us; Roman’s 8:26 & 27.  So it’s a wonderful prayer language it’s a wonderful praise language, and it’s important to step out right now. (Billy Joe speaking prayer language) I’m just praying in my prayer language right now, and those are words that God knows, we don’t know which language if may be but there’s some 17,000 at least languages in the world and then there’s the language of angels.  Our daughter was with us in a crusade in Dominican Republic she began to speak in tongues on the platform as we were praying for the sick.  And there were Dignitaries there, the Attorney General, the Senator from that region was there and the major and they all heard her; one man came up and said, “Where did you learn that language?”  And she said, “Well, I’m just speaking in tongues, he said , “No, that’s a language of the tribe that is right up in those mountains,” and he pointed and because he had lived in that region, had been to that tribe, had learned part of their language.  He was hearing our daughter Sarah, our oldest daughter speak in that language; it was a sign and a wonder to those men.  They did not leave the platform of that major crusade until the last person was gone, and usually Politians are there…

Sid:  And you know Billy Joe what you’re describing is normal and it’s about time believer’s become normal, tell me about your book that we’re making available “You Can be Healed.”  What kind of feedback are getting on it?

Billy Joe:  People everywhere are experiencing healing because it is simple.  It lays out the scriptures and then gives powerful testimony and explanation of how people can be healed regardless of their condition.  You can be healed, Brother Roberts wrote a wonderful endorsement in it, Suzanne Hinn, Benny Hinn’s wife and we’ve been close friends with both of them.  They realize how important it is that people get the scripture and testimony together and that’s what it’s for.  I thought about a person laying on a so called deathbed, been given a terminal statement concerning their healing, unable to be healed.  What would you say to them?  I would tell them right off the bat “You can be healed.”  And that’s the nature of this book.

Sid Roth:  Well, as you explained it, it’s so clear, it’s so simple but then it’s the anointing, it’s the presence of God that destroys the yokes of unbelief.  And you just systematically point by point get rid of all the obstacles that the devil’s using to stop people from being able to draw on the healing of God and not only them being healed but being able to pray for other people.