It's Supernatural

Sid:  Those that know me know that my passion is for people to know the Messiah.  My method has always been the law of evangelism by going to the Jew first.  I’ve actually found that it’s opened up a bigger door of evangelizing Gentiles than going to the Gentile first; now that doesn’t make sense in the natural, but it makes a whole lot of sense in the supernatural.  And I have my new friend Michael Galiga on the telephone. For those that missed the interview that I did with Michael upon completion of graduate school, Michael was trained in the corporate world by some of the best executives in the world.  He structured transactions and consulted for over twenty-five years at the highest levels of the corporate arena, both domestically internationally.  His clients include Citicorp, Sigma, Country of Abu Dhabi, J.P. Morgan, many others and I could go on and on, but he’s a man that understands the times and the seasons that we’re living in.  He’s a businessman that has been arrested, if you will, by God and he wouldn’t have it any other way.  And I was talking to Michael and I found out, although we’re new friends, we really didn’t know each other previously; God down loaded in him the understanding of the One New Man that he down loaded in me.  And I shouldn’t find that amazing Michael, but I do find it amazing and I find many others God is downloading.  Do you know what I believe?  I believe that God is downloading this message in so many people right now because it’s so important for the Body of Believers to understand.

Michael:  Yeah, it is Sid and I look at it kind alike, okay you probably watched the video footage on TV where there pulling the reactor rods out of a nuclear reactor.  When they pull them out, while it’s still functional that allows the reactor to run and create enormous energy otherwise those rods soak up the atomic particles and it doesn’t generate electricity, it doesn’t generate heat or steam.  And every person that gets this One New Man idea that’s like pulling one more rod out the nuclear reactor; each one of us that understands this and grasps our Jewish roots etc. is pulling one more rod it creates enormous energy for each person that understands. 

Sid:  Well, you know I found this out in stages, it’s almost I lived the life of the One New Man, for instances many many years ago as a Jewish evangelist I bumped into what I called the Law of Evangelism.  What I found is when God wanted to reach the world He started with Abraham, the Father of the Jewish people; and when Jesus wanted to reach the world He said, “I go only to the lost sheep of Israel,” not as an end in itself, but He so loved the whole world, that was His method.  And when Paul wanted to reach and whole world, in Roman’s 1:16 “He said I am not ashamed of the gospel, it’s the power of God unto salvation, to everyone who believes, to the Jew first.  If God the Father, if Jesus the Son and if Paul the Apostle went to the Jew first as a strategy to reach the whole world, then why shouldn’t we do it?  And so I was at the Jewish Community Center one day and I was reading through a book of Lost Tribes and I found a place called, Kaifeng, China, and in China there was the silk trade routes and Jewish people were involved in this and many of them immigrated to this little town in China and so I decided I want to go there.  And I did and a Feast of Tabernacles Celebration on a Buddhist shrine and God opened up the whole city to me by way of television and I saw that it’s almost like a supernatural multiplication to reach gentiles when you go to the Jew first and I’ve proven this throughout many years of Jewish ministry.

Michael:  Well, it’s an absolutely true concept and I think that people here, and I can’t speak because I don’t travel the world like you do Sid, I’ve traveled some, but when we go to the Jew first it is miraculous.

Sid:  And something that you mentioned in your notes and there were so many things that you mentioned in your notes Michael that’s why I wanted to kind a team up with you this week and talk about the concept of the One New Man.  You talked about a phrase that’s found in scripture, the fullness of the gentiles, for instance: Luke 21: 24 says “Jerusalem will be trodden down by the gentiles until the fullness of the gentiles come in.  And so we could look at 1967 and say Jerusalem for the first time in modern history is in Jewish possession, so therefore we’re at the fullness of the gentiles.  But then I like to pair it with the other scripture in Roman’s 11:25, in which Paul says partial blindness has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in.  In other words, when we see a move of God’s Spirit Michael that’s a sign that were at the fullness of the gentiles; so we know that the first sign is in Jerusalem in Jewish possession and the fullness of the gentiles I think is going to go full blazes if you will once you start seeing the spiritual scales come off of the eyes of Jewish people.  And God has shown to me all of last year that He is removing the spiritual scales; I went to Brooklyn, New York, Brighton Beach, home of 100,000 Soviet Jews in a ten block radius; 400 Soviet Jews showed up to my outreach meeting; unsaved and the majority of them received the Lord.  And then I said, “Well, it works with Soviet Jews in America, will it work with American Jews that were born in America for many generations?”  And so I went to a little city outside of Los Angeles, California called Oxnard, California and I did the same thing, I ran an ad in the Jewish press, lecture on the Supernatural, on the Paranormal; 400 American Jews showed up and now we didn’t have 400 make professions of faith, we had about 30 make professions of faith, but you know this is kind of unprecedented stuff.  And then I thought what will the same thing work in Israel?  And I went to Israel and I had a meeting of over 100 holocaust survivors; these are Jewish people in their ‘80s; they’re hardened against God because of all that they’ve gone through and I saw miracles there.  I saw the majority of Jewish make professions of faith; these holocaust survivors.  So I have to believe based on what the Holy Spirit has shown me that we’re at the fullness of the gentile age.  What is God showing you about that?

Michael:  Well, he’s showing me that we are at the fullness of the gentile age and I think that 1967 you know is absolutely a line in the sand that we’ve crossed through and Jerusalem is in Jewish hands for the first time in thousands of year.  And one of the most important dates other than 1948 of course, but it’s extremely revealing Sid, because I’m a businessman, I work in the business world all day long, I never went to seminary, I’m not a preacher, I’m not a prophet, but I’m a businessman.  Though as a businessman, it’s even more, I can’t speak for you but it’s extremely interesting to me because it’s kind of the fourth dimension that I think controls this dimension; it’s where God is and that that wall kind of comes down and reaches into our world, at our desk and at our car and in our home and He touches us.  And I believe the fullness of the gentiles has come; it’s shocking to think that it’s happened in my life time, but I’m so glad it has and I’m so glad that I’m here for such a time as this and it’s such an exciting time. 

Sid:  Well, to whom much is given, much is required and I believe that God entrusted his best for this wrap up generation.  In Ephesians the second chapter is where we get this one new man concept from; so Ephesians 2 verse 14 says “For He Himself is our peace “ or the Hebrew word, I know the New Testament was written in Greek, but the Hebrew word for peace is Shalom which means completeness.  And the Messiah is our completeness, we’re complete in Him whole has made both; He’s talking about Jew and Gentile One and has broken down the middle wall of separation.  And then the fifteen verse, “So as to create in Himself one new man from the two thus making and there’s that world peace, shalom, thus making completeness; He’s complete and when the middle wall of separation comes down between Jew and Gentile it makes us complete.  How did this concept even birth within you?  Mine was very gradual, step by step; I got saved by a Jewish believer and I got I got immediately involved in something I’d never heard anything of because there were only one or two congregations in the world at the time; Messianic Judaism and then I started moving in the supernatural.  And then it was just so clear that the key to supernatural is the Jew and Gentile being one in Jesus.

Michael:  Well, it didn’t come gradual to me Sid, it came in an instant; it was in about a thirty second period where I read about this for the first time, it might have been in some of your materials, because I follow you closely; but I just don’t remember where I read it the first time.  It was about two years ago and I read it and it was like a lightning bolt into my heart.  And I said, “That that’s it; that’s the incredible ingredient that’s happening, that’s what I have been feeling I just didn’t know what it was.”  And so it happened very quickly and I went from a standing start to say a hundred miles an hour in less than a minute.

Sid: …it was written as Mordecai said to Esther “For such a time as this.”  And just one scripture in Ephesians 2, I want to conclude with it says “In whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit,” in other words a complete dwelling place for God, the full presence of God.  We’ll get into it more but it’s really spelled out in my book.

Sid: …One new man that Paul talks about in Ephesians Chapter two 2.  That’s the one new man that Jesus talks about in John 17 in which He says, “I pray that they might be one (Jew and Gentile) and the same glory that was on Me will be on them.”  That’s what we will be about ready to walk into! That’s why I’m so excited this week, my guest Hank is a veteran prophet that I’ve known for a long time by the name of Hank Kunneman. … “Revealer of Secrets” this is literally a prophetic handbook for you on how to hear God’s secrets, God wants you to know His secrets.  And Hank on yesterday’s broadcast we found out that age eighteen, and your parents weren’t believers you were raised in a non-Christian home, you only went to denominal church once in a while.  But at age five you heard God’s voice and you had a healthy respect and reverence for God, a godly fear of God.  And at eighteen in the basement of your parent’s home after some Christians had witnessed to you you became a believer, you prayed in unknown tongues all night; you had visions of Heaven; your parents thought you were slightly nuts.   They kick you out of the house, but when they kicked you out, “What did you do?”

Hank:  Well, I remember and it was pretty hurtful for my Dad and I both just because, you know as we talk about it today, you know He basically gave me an ultimatum and that was, “Deny Jesus, get out of this what he thought was a cult or get out.”  And I had nowhere to go and I remember the loneliest feeling that I had and I tell you for those that are listening today, you know, you always know how strong your Christianity is when it’s tested.  And I knew in my heart and I only had been saved a few months, I knew that what I received was the real deal.  That I was willing as an eighteen year old kid to pack up my bags, not knowing where I was going to go and risk it all for this Jesus.  But I remember God was so good He knows our steps and He orders our steps.  Prior to me getting kicked out I went to a youth program that somebody invited me to, and a young man who, later would become my roommate handed me his phone number saying “Listen if you ever need anything, call me.”  So after I got kicked out, I packed all my stuff up, got in my car and I drove off not knowing where to go and I pulled over to a, in those days we didn’t have cell phones, you know these are the olden days and this is back, you know, back in the eighties you know I used the pay phone.  And I called this number and this gentleman that later became my roommate, he said “You won’t believe it my roommate just moved out, he’s in the service, we have an opening, why don’t you come.  Well, you know it was not in a very nice part of the city, but I was just glad to have a place to live.  And it was that little house; in a really not so nice area of Omaha is where God and I met.  And I used to have a lot of my spiritual experiences take place.

Sid:  And you know you had some amazing spiritual experiences when you chose God, over the comforts that were available to you.  All you had to do was deny God and you could have stayed at home, but it’s almost like for the moment you got born again and prayed all night in tongues and had your first vision; tell me some of the things that were going on in the streets.

Hank:  Well, one of the things that’s interesting, let me just back up, I think that’s powerful is, I didn’t have anybody to turn to.  My roommates were also in the service in this new house that I had just moved into.  I had two roommates and both were in the service, so they were gone a lot or they would leave for the holidays on what they call leave.  So I would be all alone, my family didn’t want anything to do with me because of my new found faith; so I had nothing else to do Sid, but just really pray, seek the face of God and go out on the streets and witness.  Well, I remember through those times of prayer I would begin to see angels.  The Lord would, one time I was praying and I saw something come shooting right past my feet; looked like a grotesque looking deformed pig.  And I knew then that through all the time that I’d been praying that the Lord was really opening up my spiritual eyes.  And I was beginning to become very aware of the spirit realm.  In some ways being kicked out was a blessing in the sense that I had nowhere else to turn, but to God.  And one of the things that happened is I remember, and I want to encourage your listeners you know sometimes we’re listening for a sentence or we’re looking for a paragraph when God speaks to us.  But the Bible, if you ever noticed it says a word of knowledge.  A word of prophecy, a word of wisdom, and God will always speak a word and as you act on that word more will come.  Well, one day, I had been praying in the afternoon and I’ll just tell you praying in the Spirit is so powerful.  Okay, it helps to activate sensitivity to the Spirit realm, but it also builds you up to where you are able to minister in the Spirit.  I think that one of the greatest ways is Jesus’ first miracle; He turned water into wine.  Wine is revelation, wine also speaks of the Holy Spirit and He drew out of it.  When you pray in the Holy Spirit a transformation takes place, and you’re able to tap into the realm of the supernatural realm of revelation; that’s what new wine speaks of and then you draw out of it, by acting on what you hear.  I heard the Lord say to me, just like the days of Ananias when he heard a name of a street, I didn’t even know about Ananias I was a young Christian, but the Lord said to me, “I want you to go to E Street.”  And that was the only thing I heard, I thought it was just me and I wrote it down, “Go to E Street.”  I kept on praying in the Spirit, and then I heard Him say, “Go to E Street and He said, “I want you to witness for me.”  So I wrote that down, “Go to E Street and witness for the Lord.”  And so my roommate came home later that night, he happened to be in town, and he said, “Let’s go out street witnessing,” and I said “That’s right, God gave me a directive, He said, God to E Street.”  Okay, just like Ananias heard, “Go to a Street called Strait.” We decided to head across the river and go obey what I’d heard, “Go to E Street, witness.”  The problem was Sid, the Lord did not give us all the details; He never does.  It’s in your obedience to act on what you hear and this works with prophecy even today when I prophecy over nations.  Sometimes I only hear a word, I only hear a sentence, something small, but when I step out the rest comes.  So we started driving across the river on E Street, so we thought, forty-five minutes later we didn’t see anything, because the Lord began to give us more detail.  He said, “When you go to E Street,” as we were in the car He said, “Look, you’ll find a party, you’ll hear loud music, you are to go in and that the house I want you to speak to.”  Well, forty-five minutes, we didn’t see any party, we didn’t hear anything.  The problem was we were on F Street and my roommate was driving and he had us on the wrong Street for forty-five minutes.  But I always say, I’d rather be on the wrong street trying to obey God than not doing anything at all.  So what happened is, we pull up to E Street, and sure enough there was a party with music and you got to hear what happened.  Are you ready for this?

Sid:   I can’t wait.

Hank:  Ha-ha, okay God’s got a sense of humor, after forty-five minutes of being on the wrong street; we pull up to this house just like the Lord said on E Street.  It was the only party on E Street, these two guys, it was right around Halloween, these two guys dressed as devils come walking out of the house and they had some alcohol in their hand and they went to, for your listeners pardon this, but they went to relieve themselves.  And as my roommate and I were like, “God what do we do now You know you never told us how we were suppose to go into this house?”  The funny thing is as we walked up to them, a few minutes later they thought we were angels, and they were so drunk they literally thought we were angels and I almost wanted to tell them that I was Gabriel, but I told them I said, “No, we’ve been sent from the Lord, we want to go in this house and we want to talk to whoever is the owner.”  And so they were so drunk they were college guys, they thought we were angels and of course we got escorted into this party now by two guys, dressed as devils.  Now God has a sense of humor, and all that came is it started from was my prayer time.

Sid:   So what did you say there though?

Hank:  Well, let me tell you, thank God that I didn’t get beat up, because it was a football party of these guys that were in college. We went in and they had the television on and I remember glancing at the television and there was something in appropriate on there and I remember yelling, “Turn that off I have something to say.” And of course, my spokesman, one of the devils, a guy dressed as a devil yells out “This guy is an angel, everybody listen up.”  Well, you know God’s sense of humor, they shut off the television; they quieted down in the room and one of the guy’s that owned the house you know of course he wanted us to leave, but that’s when the anointing dropped in there room.  And my roommate and I began to witness to these people and I wish I knew and could tell you there was salvations; I really don’t believe that there was that day, but there was some tremendous seeds that were planted.  And years later I had a young man show up in my church here in Omaha and he said to me, he said “Do you remember the day that you walked into a party, said, I was there I saw you on TV?”  Because you know we’re on TV here on commercials here in Omaha.  And he said, “I saw you and I just wanted to come and tell you I was in that party that day that you walked in,” Years later he must have gotten saved.

Sid:   You know, despise not small beginnings, God uses everything.  And now I mean I am kind of overwhelmed with some of the prophecies that you’ve had that have come to pass; and the things you know about the future and overwhelmed over the creative miracles.  This lady you prayed for, she had her female parts removed and then she had a baby, really?

Hank:  Yeah, let me tell you Sid, in the early years of my ministry, you know I would say early not that it doesn’t happen now, is that sometimes there is the innocence that we carry, naivety that is very healthy, not saying that you do things foolishly or immature, but we’re at a whole other dimension of faith.  You know, Jesus said you know, “Come like children,” there is a childlike faith that we’re to possess.  And you know it’s kind of like this when it comes to the gifts of the Spirit, I don’t know if you are like me, but whenever you get, …

Sid: Well, I’ll tell you what, I am like we’re out of time right now, we’ll pick up here on tomorrows broadcast; what a creative miracle.

Sid:  I just did a prophetic teaching CD with Hank Kunneman, just for our listeners; and the title of this is “The 2010 Prophetic Window.”  And you are going to be amazed at what God has shown this veteran prophet, Hank Kunneman about the future of America, about President Obama, even where to invest, about Iran and Israel.  But I think let’s get to know the man, because as I understand the gift of prophecy the person’s entire life that God uses is a prophetic life.  Hank at age five and I have to tell you, you provoke me the jealousy because I didn’t even know there was a God at age five.  But at age five you heard the voice of God.  And yet, you weren’t even raised in a Christian home, you would once in awhile go to a denominational church, but at age five what did God say to you?

Hank:  Well, I was on the Island of Guam of all places because, of…

Sid: I thought you were going to say on the Island of Patmos, but that’s okay ha-ha.

Hank:  I’ve never said it that way, but I greet your listeners today to God bless them.  But one of the things that the Lord did was I was five years of age and I was sitting there on the Island of Guam, my parents, my Dad was in the Air Force and I sitting there and I heard a voice come to me.  And it wasn’t like in my mind I could hear it speak inside of me telling me, drawing me to the elements of creation and speaking to me about, you know about doing what’s right in life.  Now keep in mind, you know your five years old, God comes and speaks to me in terms that I wouldn’t know and I would understand as a five year old.  And basically the message was that you know, look at creation, introduced himself to me as a creator, but also really put a healthy Godly fear at that moment on at the age of five.

Sid: I wish I had had that; I didn’t have a clue, but at age five coming from a non-Christian home to have that put into you.  What effect did it have on you even as a youngster, five years of age?

Hank:  The effect that it had on my life at that moment was really amazing, because not only did it bring the fear of God upon me where I was always aware of this creator that had spoke to me, but what was interesting Sid, was that I would go into different places and even my Mom would remember this, I would have little old ladies or different ones come up and say there’s something about this young man; God’s hands on his life.  When I would get into junior high and just before I got saved at the age of eighteen people would say to me, “How do you know these things?”  I had a real ability, the gift is without repentance to sometimes look at someone and be able to perceive what was going on just by my own spirit at the time.  So those were some of things that began to happen and when I got saved…

Sid: Well, at eighteen I want to know about that, you’re at your parents home, you’re in the basement and you finally experience the God that spoke to you way back at age five; tell me about that.

Hank:  I was being deeply pursued by some of the, what I call crazy Christians of the High School because they recognized evidently that there was some kind of calling on my life and I resisted them and I finally knelt down one day at the age of eighteen and I asked Jesus to come into my heart; and nobody was around just God and I said “Look if You are real here’s my life.”  And it was shortly after that, two months later that I got filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues.

Sid:   Now how did your parents deal with that they weren’t even believers?

Hank:  Well, you know I had a miracle happen, this is what really got my parents upset and not only was I talking about Jesus, but I had, my parents owned a service station, so I always around the grease and the dirt and stuff like that helping my parents.  I had really bad acne that broke out on my face and the first thing that God healed me of within the first two months of my salvation was he healed me supernaturally from acne in a service that I went to.  The guy started calling it out you know, acne and different things; and I’m thinking golly minister can’t you see I’m sitting here right on the third row? I didn’t know that he was operating in a supernatural word of knowledge and so a woman sitting next to me said, “The Lord’s speaking to you claim your healing.”  So I said, “Well, I claim healing for acne.”  So I went home and I told my parents and I said, “God’s going to heal me from acne, the Lord has healed my face.”  And they laughed and of course they thought I was crazy because I was severely broken out.  But I’m telling you Sid, in a few days I had baby skin; it looked like someone had taken their hand and put it on my cheeks and you could see these spots that looked like somebody would take like five fingers and these spots of new skin would appear completely healed my whole face.  And of course my parents thought I was crazy, even after that sign and wonder they even more thought I was in a cult, especially now that they say their son with a clean face.

Sid: But then, shortly thereafter why did they kick you out of they’re home?

Hank:  Well, my Dad kicked me out of my house, he said, “Listen, either you,” and of course my dad, you know he’s a precious man today, we’ve since had our relationship restored, thank God for that.  But we spent, you know I spent a few holidays alone because he said, “Either you deny this Jesus or you get out.”  And what happened shortly after I got saved and healed with this acne, I got filled with the Holy Ghost and I had something happen, my Mom was yelling my name at the top of the stairs, trying to get my attention, but what she did not know is that I had prayed and been filled with the Holy Ghost.  All night long I prayed in the Holy Spirit, didn’t even know what was going on and I got caught up in a vision, my first actual vision to where I saw what looked like a throne room.

Sid: How did you know how to pray in unknown tongues all night?  How did you know these things, you’re unchurched?

Hank:  Well, they had given me material and somebody actually I should clarify prayed with me to receive and when I did receive it was very fluent and they said, “Now go home and just keep praying.”  Well, I went home and I kept on praying and I didn’t realize I prayed all night long.

Sid: I wish someone had told me that! Ha-ha.

Hank:  But it led to a beautiful vision of what I believe was a throne room and that was my first spiritual experience.  And of course my Mom, she didn’t know what was going on, all she thought I was doing was ignoring her voice and really what she didn’t realize is that I was having a major vision in my starting of my Christianity.

Sid:  What did you see in the throne room?

Hank:  It was very interesting; the only thing that I could really tell you that really really drew my attention was all the people that were there.  And I could see this bright light, it was so bright that I couldn’t really see much around me but I could see someone was sitting on a big, what appeared like a throne.  I couldn’t see it because the light was so piercing and I could see what looked like glass in front of me.  That is the only way that I can describe it and I could see people all around me. But I tell you what was even more impressive than the things that I was seeing like the light and all the people and you know this figure off in the distance on this throne, again I could only see from like the feet and the knees up.  Was kind of more blurry was the noise that was there; it was like nothing like I’ve ever heard before in my life.  But from that moment on it drew a real hunger in my heart to really tap into what happened to me, you know and then God began to deal with me because the prophetic is progressive.  You know just like with Joseph it starts off with a dream for himself, then interpreting dreams for others and now he’s standing before a major political figure.  God was dealing with me with this whole dream and this healing that happened with my face and now he starts giving me a dream and ministering to me that way in the supernatural.  And I would like to share a dream I had my first one, would that be all right with ya?

Sid:   Sure.

Hank:  Yeah, I remember it because again, I want to encourage people who are listening that are listening you know, maybe you don’t get words over the nation, but listen God will speak to you; and I like dreams.   I’ll tell you why Sid, we’re sleeping our soul is more quiet, our body’s quiet, were not distracted and God can really speak to us.  And there’s a principal that I’ve learned and it’s this; God’s ability to communicate to us is greater than our ability not to hear.  Okay, God has many ways to communicate to us.  He’s ability to get His message across is greater than our ability not to hear; and dreams is a great way for God to speak.  Well, I was recently saved and this also led to me being kicked out; there was a young girl that was in a car accident, major car accident.  The whole family was traumatized by it, the neighborhood was in shock, she got hit in her car by this big truck, immediately in a coma.  Nobody knew what to do it looked like she was going to die.  God gave me a dream, it was one of the first spiritual experiences that I had for anybody else and I saw this girl in her hospital room hanging on to life.  I saw a bright light come into the room in this dream and I saw a calendar and I saw the date and it said on the calendar, Easter was written on the calendar the word Easter.  You know Resurrection Sunday.  Well, all of a sudden I saw in the dream her eyes looked up and she looked at the calendar and I knew in my heart when I woke up that this young girl that had been a coma, where the doctors were saying that she wasn’t going to make it, that she was going to wake up on Easter Sunday or just before it.  So my mistake was, like Joseph, I went and began to tell the whole neighborhood.  Of course they thought I was crazy and they said, “How do you know God speaks.  So I did something kind of strange Sid, I went and got all my parents encyclopedias and went out to the light pole and met many of the people in the neighborhood trying to prove that God speaks today.  Of course they thought I was a nut and that…

Sid:   But what happened on Resurrection Sunday?

Hank:  Well, just as, what I didn’t realize at the time was really my first prophetic, you know with the Lord the sense of you know, moving in the prophetic for somebody else; she woke up.

Sid:   I tell you what; I want you to wake up prophetically…

Sid:  My guest, Mel Bond had an encounter with Jesus in 1984, Jesus taught him how to pray so that he would get the same results that Jesus got.  And I am so excited about what Jesus taught him, but then what God’s doing through his life and then what God is doing through people that read his book and listen to his CD.  For instance Mel tell me about the engineer, and engineer’s notorious for being so logical it’s hard to even lead an engineer to the Lord.  Tell me about this engineer.

Mel:  Okay, there’s a man that’s born again recently well it was in 2005, he was born again, filled with the Holy Spirit, he’s and engineer work’s for Bowing in St. Louis.  He writes up the manuals for their jets, a very intellectual man, his name is Steve Deutschmann he lives in Lake St. Louis, Missouri.  Basically I taught him how to pray with his whole heart; took him to a crusade with me and I just taught him personally how to do this.  The first person that brought up and there’s crowds of people that were brought up; the very first one, he said, “He kind of just thought oh no, why couldn’t I have had somebody much simpler than this?”  They brought Desmond Red Day full blooded Indian, him and his wife brought their little boy up and he was born pigeon toed, never ran in his life, couldn’t because he would trip over his feet.  Steve prayed for him and I didn’t get to see it because of the fact that there were so many people that we were praying for and he was praying for a crowd and I was praying for a crowd, but I’ve known Desmond Red Day for many years because I’m La Poda Indian also and so I go up there all the time.  And the little boy, his foot was born pigeon toed and Steve said, “When he prayed for him with his whole heart those feet just straightened out and they’ve been straight ever since.  Then they set him down and he took off running the first time in his life; still healed by the power of God.”

Sid:  You know something that you teach on and you fully do it in your book, but I just want everyone listening to understand this that the gifts of the Holy Spirit can be manifested.  I’ve always thought it as God wills, but you see it a little different, explain.

Mel:  Well, if you look in my book releasing God’s anointing I go into with much greater depth, but right here in 1^st Corinthians Chapter 12:11 the Bible says that the Spirit dividing to the, it talks about all the gifts of the Spirit and then it says the Holy Spirit, capitol S referring to the Spirit dividing to everyman severally as He will.  If you study this out that he is not in reference to the Holy Spirit, he is in reference to man and that collates also with so many scriptures.  How can we do the works of Jesus and greater unless we have all the gifts of the Spirit?  I can give validation to that will at least 5 to 700 other verses just in the New Testament.

Sid:  So therefore are you saying in your life that you can move in the gifts of the Spirit as you will, is that what you are saying to me?  And you’re saying everyone can?

Mel:  Absolutely.

Sid:  Okay, I would like you to move in the gifts of the Spirit and minister to the people that are listening to us right now.

Mel:  Okay, let me do that.  Okay, I see a lady and her eyes are glassed over because she’s totally blind, been glassed over for several years and so in Jesus Name I take authority over blindness, I command you to leave, you can’t stay.  And now in Jesus Name I command those eyes to be recreated by God’s power and now I see those beautiful brown eyes, there formulating right now in Jesus Name.  There’s warmth that’s taking place because you are surrendering to the miracle working power of God in Jesus Name.  Now I see another person they have had their legs so broken from accident, it’s so crippled up that they haven’t been able to walk without a crutch.  And so right now in Jesus Name I take authority over the forces of darkness that has come against this leg I command all the brokenness to leave in Jesus name.  All, right now in Jesus Name I take authority over that spirit of doubt and unbelief, leave this person in Jesus Name leave a spirit of depression leave this person.  And I open up their understanding that they believe they be influenced by the Spirit of the Living God and in Jesus Name I command that leg to surrender to God’s power.  Now, if you relax you’ll understand the word relax, yield and surrender are coequal terms in the Greek and in the Hebrew and so sometimes in our modern day vernacular we understanding relaxing better than we do yield but, if you relax you are surrendering.  You’re yielding to God’s power, so just relax in that leg, there it is the bones are straightening out right now in Jesus name there’re just moving.  Now get up and walk and you’ll see that it’s going to be more difficult to walk at first but the more that you’re going to notice a creation of God’s power because actions activate God’s power.  If you believe God’s word you’ve got to act on it so keep on.  Now take off running in Jesus Name, in the Name of Jesus.

Sid:  Mel, I feel like there is such an outpouring of the healing anointing that whether you have a Word of Knowledge for someone or not the faith level is so high right now they could receive a healing for anything.  Would you pray for people to be healed of whatever condition they have? 

Mel:  In Jesus Name I just take authority over the multitudes of problems, sicknesses and diseases and I command you to leave of these people in Jesus.  Just like Jesus sent His Word and people were healed from far distances.  The word of God is the Power of God and so I command in Jesus Name all sickness, all disease even people with financial difficulties I break those demonic spirits of lack, poverty leave them and in Jesus name I command all of these people that their lives, their bodies, in their minds and their finances, I command them all to surrender to the miracle working power of God right now in Jesus Name.  And if people will receive it they can have it, because Jesus said if you believe you receive, then you’ll have.  Now start acting, start doing something, do something that you couldn’t do before and you’ll notice that actions activate the miracle working power of God. 

Sid:  Is God showing you anything else right now?

Mel:  Yes, yes, yes!  God is showing me that Sid, and I’m not saying, I told you privately and I’m telling you now openly that God wants to us your TV program as the number one catalyst of TV ministries in the world to let people know that God is a miracle worker, he’s a miracle worker and that’s going to take place.  That there’s is going to be multitudes of people that’s going to  come on your show that you’ll be able to see the miracles that will take place right on the camera.  And you also, Brother Sid Roth you are going to move with the miracle working power of God beyond your imagination, Amen.

Sid:  Oh, I’m just sitting in the glory right now, you know something that amazes me also is you operate in such keen discernment that you can see demons that are making people sick.  Tell me about one.

Mel:  Oh, okay I was just in England just about three weeks ago and I was preaching right in the middle of the service there was a lady that she was probably about forty years of age, thirty-five – forty right now and her husband looked like he was about fifty-five maybe sixty.  And so immediately I looked and I’d seen inside of her body and I’d seen her ovaries and it was just like it was intestines, but it was like spirits that wrapped around those ovaries and they were inflamed and so the Spirit of God told me that this couple is going to have a baby.  So my mind would fight against that people this age they’ve all ready had their children; and so I prayed and I command all pain to leave, I commanded recreation and she felt relief and her husband was a medical doctor seating right next to her.  And he said, “Sir I don’t mean to be rude, but I need to tell you some things, number one I’m a medical doctor I’ve seen her x-rays exactly what you said is wrong with her and she’s been in pain for I forget how many years, and she said she is free so there is verification right there.  And 1^st Corinthians Chapter 6:17 the Bible says, “That he or she is joined of the Lord is one Spirit if we learn to be one with the Lord.”  If Jesus was standing here He could see in every single person’s body, He could see in their mind and so if we’re joined unto the Lord we can do the same thing.  We just learn how to get into His presence and see with His ability. 

Sid…I believe that God wants a lot of people moving like you Mel not just you, what do you think?

Mel:  Absolutely, I’ve taught people that were novelist, just novelist and now they’re in full time ministry.